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Ulesi posted:I've never seen a single minute of this show but always read good things about it. Does it hold up well to ~current year~ and is it worth a watch? yes. start with 33 and just go with it.
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Horizon Burning posted:yes. start with the miniseries and just go with it.
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Oct 11, 2023 10:19
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Yeah we watched it last year (I'd seen it before, girlfriend had not) it still holds up.
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Oct 11, 2023 20:37
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Every now and then I remember that scene where Helo says the title of the episode: “The Woman, King.”
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Oct 18, 2023 12:16
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Planet of the antivaxxers.
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Arc Hammer posted:Planet Alberta
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One thing which I always felt about the finale is that the rationale for abandoning the earlier ideas of just trying to restart Colonial society on Earth was there in the show, but simply wasn't really expanded on enough for Apollo's idea to make any sense. Their political system had more or less collapsed when Zarek ventilated the government, they were all eating algae and drinking lovely algae coffee, they couldn't manufacture much of anything (the toothpaste thing) and eventually they were going to lose what tech they had, anyway. So maybe Apollo's idea of a fresh start had more going for it than the show managed to present.
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Oct 22, 2023 08:53
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You don't just throw away everything that still works after landing on a new planet. The bubonic plague almost wiped out the Cylons in one episode, the colonials landing on Earth and ditching any and all of their remaining medicine is a recipe for catastrophe not helped by the survivors all going their separate ways. They also had a single doctor left among the fleet who wasn't a space racist. You're gonna want to keep him close by.
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I maintain that the concept of dropping the fleet into the sun isn't the problem, it's the execution. The ships simply fly out of shot towards a bright light, and then that's all we see. The show is named after the ship and they don't bother to show its destruction. Imagine the poignancy of watching the namesake for the show broken apart and disintegrated by the sun, in wrenching detail. People claim this as some sort of conceptual or tactical laziness, but the laziness was in just explaining what the plan is over boring footage.
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Oct 23, 2023 17:43
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Arc Hammer posted:You don't just throw away everything that still works after landing on a new planet. The bubonic plague almost wiped out the Cylons in one episode, the colonials landing on Earth and ditching any and all of their remaining medicine is a recipe for catastrophe not helped by the survivors all going their separate ways. For reals, it's like they all forgot when they landed on New Caprica and everyone got pneumonia. I'm sure everyone will be glad they aren't repeating the loop of fighting with AIs when they're burying dead babies.
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Oct 23, 2023 22:30
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I like to think that a huge chunk of the humans decided to stick with the centurions on their base star and the people we see wandering off into a field to die of dysentery on Earth at the end were the idiots that learned nothing from their experiences
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Oct 23, 2023 23:31
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The show suggesting that Hera is Mitochondrial Eve is hilarious when the very next sentence says that the bones were of a young woman, meaning that Hera didn't live that long and probably wasn't helped by the health complications she had throughout the show.
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Oct 24, 2023 04:47
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Show should have ended with them digging up a small skeleton, and they look closer and it's a robot skeleton
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Data Graham posted:Show should have ended with them digging up a small skeleton, and they look closer and it's a robot skeleton It has the glowing red "I'm horny" spine the skinjobs had in season 1.
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BiggestBatman posted:I maintain that the concept of dropping the fleet into the sun isn't the problem, it's the execution. The ships simply fly out of shot towards a bright light, and then that's all we see. The ship basically "dies" on its final jump to Earth anyway. It's sorta grotesque that you want to see it incinerated piece by piece in its final shot. Its like "man T2 was great but I wish Arnold was screaming in agony while being lowered into the lava"
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More like "T2 would be worse if they just have VO over a shot of someone pressing a button that says 'crane go down'"
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Defiance Industries posted:More like "T2 would be worse if they just have VO over a shot of someone pressing a button that says 'crane go down'"
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banned from Starbucks posted:The ship basically "dies" on its final jump to Earth anyway. It's sorta grotesque that you want to see it incinerated piece by piece in its final shot. This is how I read it. Maybe its from being a sailor, but when a ship's keel snaps in half, it's dead. Even if it keeps floating for a while, there's no coming back from that. On that final jump when you see all the different compartments buckle and decompress, and the hull starts to flop around like a wet noodle, that's when I mentally tossed a flower on the coffin.
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I mean if the "her back's broke, she'll never jump again" line didn't seal it
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I get the sentiment that there could have been more pomp and circumstance, for lack of a better term, around the 'death' of the show's titular vessel. The 'breaking her back' sequence is pretty spectacular but that one line is basically all we get - Wait... doesn't Adama do a ceremonial flyby of the Galactica in his viper? Or am I conflating something from earlier in the season? That's a pretty big send-off.
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Lee leads the ceremonial flyby during g the decommissioning ceremony in the miniseries. Adama might have been tooling around in a Raptor but I'm probably mixing up seasons.
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Mister Speaker posted:I get the sentiment that there could have been more pomp and circumstance, for lack of a better term, around the 'death' of the show's titular vessel. The 'breaking her back' sequence is pretty spectacular but that one line is basically all we get - Adama was the final viper to fly off Galactica after abandoning her.
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AlternateNu posted:The CO on my second ship was a bit of a geek and always said BSG was the closest representation of actual carrier life in fiction. There's always some chief loving a new pilot. Everyone hates the XO because he's a raging rear end in a top hat. The CAG is an overconfident douchebag. And that one episode Garner is the CO of the Pegaus is exactly what happens when the CHENG or Reactor Officer needs to unexpectedly take command. its pretty drat close imo too though there's obviously some differences for me its more a lot of the little things like background announcements for calling sweepers and other things like that that are remarkably close to the real thing that adds a lot to it
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Kemper Boyd posted:One thing which I always felt about the finale is that the rationale for abandoning the earlier ideas of just trying to restart Colonial society on Earth was there in the show, but simply wasn't really expanded on enough for Apollo's idea to make any sense. Their political system had more or less collapsed when Zarek ventilated the government, they were all eating algae and drinking lovely algae coffee, they couldn't manufacture much of anything (the toothpaste thing) and eventually they were going to lose what tech they had, anyway. So maybe Apollo's idea of a fresh start had more going for it than the show managed to present. You've got the right idea, but they should have planted the seeds back at the exodus from New Caprica: most of the supplies that could be used to restart society already were, over a year ago, and most were left behind there since moving them back into the ships would alert the Cylons to the escape plan. What's left is half a fleet that spent a year decaying from lack of maintenance in orbit, and half a fleet that spent a year weathering from lack of maintenance on the ground -- both neglected by crews and populations never expecting to have to house large groups of humans in space ever again. The remaining time leading up to the finale would be undercut with a growing sense of unease, at first quiet but gradually building to malaise, then desperation -- the fleet is falling apart. Fabrication capacity inexorably drops as essential parts and rare materials go extinct; specialists with irretrievable knowledge die in Cylon attacks, accidents and all the usual reasons. Many ships that were already overdue for major maintenance and overhauls are taxed beyond their limits by years of continuous operation at full capacity. Most medicines are gone from treating the rapid disease breakouts that occur in the cramped quarters of packed ships, even the black market is run dry; the fleet is barely staying ahead of essential operations like water recycling, sewage treatment and fuel refining. By the time the fleet reaches Earth, nearly everyone has spent the last five years living in conditions bordering on madness. Most ships' life support systems are just functional after years of running at maximum output. Breakdowns and damage are ever more frequent while the military prioritizes nearly every kind of replacement, from circuit boards and batteries to the gods-damned seat cushions! The water and algae rations are leaner than ever, not that anyone was enthusiastic about the latter. When rumor spread that a man was hoarding the last pepper shaker on one ship, his arm was broken in two places; he didn't have any pepper. Of course, laying out a series of concepts and developments leading towards a particular outcome would require the creators to have a... what's the word? Scheme, program, strategy? Something like that.
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I can't remember...was ALL life eradicated on Original Earth, or just all human and Cylon? Maybe before they left, they could have restocked some food supplies if there was still any animal or plant life? Might have been a LITTLE radioactive, sure, but beggars can't be choosers. I mean, they were on the surface breathing oxygen, so SOMETHING must have still been producing O2, though maybe it was just more of that same drat space-algae.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Might have been a LITTLE radioactive, sure, but beggars can't be choosers.  Sci-fi, whatever. Radioactivity is always most dangerous when internalized (either through ingestion or inhalation). If you put an emitter inside of yourself, even a "little bit" will cause agonizing degradation until you just die.That said, IIRC, they imply any organic matter that is still around is hopelessly toxic.
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It's worth noting that radioactive fallout decays away pretty quickly, at least when we're talking on the timescales involved in this show. Earth One really should've been fine by the time the fleet arrived.
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They only landed in Vancouver and thought the rest of the planet was just as toxic.
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It's a real statement on the good work done on BSG when I can utterly respect the actors and utterly despise many of the characters they played (almost all of the humans besides Zarek and Baltar).
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Babe wake up, new cylon model dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-_M
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Boris Galerkin posted:Babe wake up, new cylon model dropped The music is in the frakking ship!
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I forgot this forum existed. Just read through the whole thread. I think many of you are being a little too hard on the show. When it works (33, the Pegasus arc, etc.) it was possibly the best space show on television. Or at least in the top five. The highs were really high and the lows… well, they were frustrating but they were never so bad I started to hate watch the show (in contrast with Moore’s more recent For All Mankind, say). There was a book released a few years ago (So Say We All) that has interviews with many of the BSG principals. It’s not worth buying but if you can find it at a library it might be worth checking out. Some facts I remember from it: * Bamber wrote most of Lee’s courtroom speech himself. * Upon seeing in a script that he was a final five Cylon, Michael Hogan called it bullshit and stormed out of the room. * Olmos sounds like he was one of the biggest boosters of the show on set, telling the younger actors that BSG was a special show that might be a once-in-a-lifetime job. 
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I think it depends on how much weight you give endings. To me, the way they ended the show casts a shadow over everything else in it. I ultimately can't look past that this is a universe with an active, meddling god and ultimately all the characters are null and void because god is real, all powerful and agreed with the cylons.
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That's fair. The ending was Dumb.
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Agronox posted:I think many of you are being a little too hard on the show. When it works (33, the Pegasus arc, etc.) it was possibly the best space show on television. Or at least in the top five. The highs were really high and the lows… well, they were frustrating but they were never so bad I started to hate watch the show (in contrast with Moore’s more recent For All Mankind, say). Imagine watching an Olympic gymnast's routine. They make some really good moves for a few minutes, just great twists and turns that defy gravity. But then start looking sloppy, and at the end of it all they fall so badly that they suffer a skull fracture. That's BSG.
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BSG Season 3 in retrospect is a real mindfuck because it's got some the highest highs the series ever saw, episodes and story arcs that I would call unironic tour-de-forces... and it was also in many ways an irreconcilable divergence for the direction the first two seasons set for the show at large and in the ways it split from that thematic arc it set the stage for EVERYTHING that went wrong with Season 4 and torpedoed the show in the eyes of a lot of fans.
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The Song was probably the best and worst idea that they could possibly have had. At the same time Just a giant weird fucko hail-mary of a story idea that made everyone go  HOW WILL THEY POSSIBLY RESOLVE ANY OF WHAT THIS OPENS UPAnd then it turns out they were just winging it and hoping they'd come up with an equally cool resolution to such a  idea. No plan, just hurl the ball in the air, and catching it is future me's problem. It's like the "me reaping: Well this loving sucks, what the gently caress" tweet
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