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Action Man
Jan 31, 2007





So this truck belonged to my grandparents. They live in Central California and in the way way back when they bought a cabin up in the Sierras and decided they needed something sturdier than the VW rabbit they were driving to negotiate mountain roads. They ended up with this 1985 Toyota SR5 Xtra Cab. 22RE[C] engine with EFI and manual transmission. FFW to today they decided they were ready to part ways with it and now I own it.





Its in shockingly good shape considering the age. Interior is very clean, with only one small crack on the dashboard despite never seeing the inside of a garage. Exterior is really decent, the clear coat is basically gone, it'll need a new coat of paint (and decals obviously) eventually, but there's no major problems areas and virtually no rust.

The glove box was full of a bunch of original documents:








The seats have basically had covers on them their whole life so they're crazy clean.

The engine runs great but leaks a ton of oil


I'm looking for some advice about what to do about fixing up the engine. I haven't done a compression test, but aside from leaking oil it seems to run fine. There's basically been no major engine work done to it... the odometer reads: 104,000 miles What concerns me though is all the gaskets/wearable parts are 35 years old. I'm thinking about buying a rebuild kit like this one: https://www.lceperformance.com/Premium-Master-Rebuild-Kit-p/1010006.htm

I want to do this the right wayô but there's a few things I'm unsure of. I've done a valve job on a small 4 cylinder that was burning oil really badly, but I've never done a full rebuild like this. A thing I'm curious about is for pistons and main bearings you can select "standard" or "+0.02, +0.03, etc" I presume that's for if you're going to have the cylinders bored out larger? Is that correct? and if so is that a thing that should be done? or is it just dependent on if there's damage to the cylinders?

I guess what I'm asking is what are things I need to consider in bringing the old girl back to her former glory. I know my way around an engine but this is a pretty ambitious project for me and I love to hear some opinions.

The only things I've done so far is replace the Drive shaft carrier bearing because it was ripped all to hell and put a new set of tires on it.


Bonus: Here it is brand new back in 1985

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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012

OH NOOOO!





poo poo, that thing is absolutely mint! Outside of some gaskets, I'd check into the timing chain stuff on 22Rs, clean it up and then triple the mileage on it. A+ trukk.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

SOOB UWU?!?!

Whoah cleeeean and stock this is amazing

nadmonk
Nov 26, 2017

The spice must flow in and through me.
The fire will cleanse me body and soul.


Welcome to the 22RE club! The oil leaking is just par for the course.
I just finished replacing the head gasket in mine (a 1988 4Runner with 200k+ miles on it).

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005
ASK ME ABOUT MY BIG DUMB LANDCRUISER



Action Man posted:

I'm looking for some advice about what to do about fixing up the engine. I haven't done a compression test, but aside from leaking oil it seems to run fine. There's basically been no major engine work done to it... the odometer reads: 104,000 miles What concerns me though is all the gaskets/wearable parts are 35 years old. I'm thinking about buying a rebuild kit like this one: https://www.lceperformance.com/Premium-Master-Rebuild-Kit-p/1010006.htm

First off, wow, what a truck, goddamn glorious. Absolute gem of a vehicle.

Secondly, that mileage? A rebuild isn't strictly necessary, it's an old Toyota, if you replace the gaskets you'll still have leaks, that's what they do, think of it as corrosion prevention. If you really do want to tear into the engine, you're approaching the mileage that the timing chain is due for replacement. Very likely to be the original chain with the original plastic-only chain guides. Likely not a problem now, but soon those guides will break and then the chain will eat the timing cover. LCE does a dual row upgrade for it that is a worthy investment if you are going to rebuild the whole thing. At the same time, it's not technically due yet.

Vac hoses, will be a yes for redoing no matter what. If you don't have to smog it then do a egr/air injection delete, likely the egr is plugged with soot and doing nothing anyways, it was a poor design. Replace the pcv valve.

Also, nadmonk is working on a 22RE in a 1988 4Runner right now, check out his thread.

Action Man
Jan 31, 2007



I've been looking into the dual chain upgrade. I think If I don't tear apart the whole thing yet, I'll at least be doing the head gasket and timing chain. Its been run low on oil a couple times and I'd rather not run into trouble.

As far as the EGR, I had it shipped from California to where I live in Kansas. It passed smog last year, so its working *enough* I plan on moving back to the west coast in the next couple years so I need to keep all that working for now.

nadmonk
Nov 26, 2017

The spice must flow in and through me.
The fire will cleanse me body and soul.


I'll second the EGR/air injection/PAIRS delete. I removed mine and it runs great. Some of that is probably down to a new cylinder head that actually let's me bolt the exhaust manifold to it properly.

But if you decide to do that, let me know, I accidentally ended up with an extra set of EGR and air injection delete plates I would be happy to send your way.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004



FWIW the paint was probably single stage from the factory and will polish up nicely if youíre careful! Doubt thereís a need to repaint.

Super cool truck, Iím extremely jealous

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

Iím back, and for that I am sorry

For some reason I canít see the pictures; Iíll assume theyíre awesome for now.

I would strongly consider desmogging and resmogging the engine every two years. If the EGR and air injection are in working order you want to keep them that way - and what better method than lubricated and on a shelf? I honestly donít think youíll be increasing emissions that much because these systems were really pretty crappy to start with.

Replace all the vacuum lines. From scratch. Get the FSM and use that, donít follow whatís there. Get a few of these from the dealer or ToyotaPartsDeal; this is the good hose that will last longer than any parts store crap (and as a bonus is the correct metric size):



At this stage I would say these truck are better used closer to stock than Ďsaw off the bed and add huge tiresí. I think some of the upgrades (crossover steering, possibly IFS rear axle + front axle hubs) are worthwhile for a mostly street-driven truck, though.

Edit: Also, Fluid Film the poo poo out of it. Yearly, if not twice yearly. You have just about the only Toyota pickup of that body style left with the bed intact.

Advent Horizon fucked around with this message at 02:06 on May 5, 2021

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005
ASK ME ABOUT MY BIG DUMB LANDCRUISER



Advent Horizon posted:

If the EGR and air injection are in working order you want to keep them that way - and what better method than lubricated and on a shelf? I honestly donít think youíll be increasing emissions that much because these systems were really pretty crappy to start with.

Yeah, those little tubes are unobtanium once they rot away. Although, the depths of my memory say that it's possible to pass smog without them.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Nthing the "don't replace bearings if they're not telling knock-knock jokes". A reseal, with good gaskets and care taken when cleaning the old ones / residue off, can work wonders on even notoriously leaky engine designs.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.





Fun Shoe

Holy cow man. What an inheritance. Keep this truck out of the salt and do what the other goons have mentioned. This truck will last the rest of your life.

STR
May 12, 2006

I thought I was a nice jester



Jesus, that thing is MINT.

Pretty sure the R engine family leaked oil before they even filled them with oil at the factory. It's a feature, I'd be really worried if it wasn't leaking.

Do the timing chain and guides soon - if it's already rattling, do it immediately (the chain is generally already stretched a bit by 100k). And remember 85+ 22REs use a different timing chain than <1985.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Yeah, this truck is awesome. Do the engine stuff and hit up the detailing thread. This thing needs very little money and a decent amount of time to turn it into a time capsule.

I always did wonder who people who immediately put seat covers on poo poo were saving the seats for.......turns out it was specifically for you.

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

For The Record...

Make a wise choice, and if you want to keep it i totally understand.

Otherwise Iíd do a timing belt service, have it paint corrected, and put it up for sale or auction it at BAT. That could be worth a small fortune right now. Everyone is looking for these.

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Captain McAllister
May 24, 2001




everdave posted:

Make a wise choice, and if you want to keep it i totally understand.

Otherwise I’d do a timing belt service, have it paint corrected, and put it up for sale or auction it at BAT. That could be worth a small fortune right now. Everyone is looking for these.

This is from 3 years ago, so I'm sure they're worth more now:

https://journal.classiccars.com/2018/06/15/clean-original-1985-toyota-pickup/

(A shade under $20k).

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