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dy. posted:I think the scum got way too excited at potential victory and tipped their hand by applying too much pressure. Consider: why does scum merk try to win with gavel instead of a vote on a townie
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AT-LOW posted:Consider: why does scum merk try to win with gavel instead of a vote on a townie
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May 18, 2021 01:20
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does merk not even count toward the 7 players required to gavel? because if not, the gavel actually requires 80% of the non-merk players to vote it
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May 18, 2021 01:24
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*correction, its like 78%. but still
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May 18, 2021 01:25
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dy. posted:No idea, but me not being able to explain that in no way precludes merk from being scum. Indeed! So, we should endeavour to explain it. We're at MYLO now. With a day town vig, we reach LYLO. With a town vote, we lose. A day scum vig or a scum vote continue the game. If a scum charging vig is active during LYLO we lose. Scum has two possible win conditions: -Vote a townie -Have both merk and a charging vig (random/dy/fry), use both powers today The second one is not only much more complicated, it is *harder* to accomplish because a vote would require less people to cooperate Do you truly believe this is scum motivated?
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May 18, 2021 01:29
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Mr. Steak posted:does merk not even count toward the 7 players required to gavel? because if not, the gavel actually requires 80% of the non-merk players to vote it I have been wondering about this too actually
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May 18, 2021 01:30
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dy. posted:he loves this meta, and he doesn't want to contradict it. this is true. at least, up until it reaches the point of accusing me of *always* being a bad town player. i do like my meta, because it usually keeps me safe from nightkills. as for contradicting it, why would i go out of my way to play different than what feels natural? this isn't some "premeditated" meta, it happened because of how i play the game. and im not gonna contradict someone calling me town for meta reasons. why would i?
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May 18, 2021 01:32
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Mr. Steak posted:does merk not even count toward the 7 players required to gavel? because if not, the gavel actually requires 80% of the non-merk players to vote it I count
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May 18, 2021 01:32
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Hmm. Ok, thinking, between AT-LOW, Fry, and dy, I’m not sure who would be charging vig in this scenario. I’ll have to think about this.
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May 18, 2021 01:35
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dy. posted:If only someone had a role who could say, investigate such an under-the-radar person to see if they had performed a kill! Why didn't Steak ever investigate Toalpaz? In fact, if he was so concerned about under-the-radar scum, as he states, why would he target me and and random, two higher-volume posters? 1. i wanted to investigate you more than toalpaz 2. i had already claimed by the end of day 2 and i'd never tell the truth about whom i plan to investigate
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May 18, 2021 01:41
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wow, i thought this case would be more fun to respond to, but its really boring and says nothing new
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May 18, 2021 01:42
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to expound on the point: my criteria for choosing targets was 1) somebody i think might be scum. and 2) somebody who is a decent person to choose to commit the kill, based on the feelings at end of day
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May 18, 2021 01:44
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tho in the case of last night, i basically chose my 2nd choose for the previous night. since obviously i wasnt gonna catch merk killing last night, or whatever
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May 18, 2021 01:45
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dy. posted:He is clearly and intentionally drawing attention to the fact that he wants to hammer. This is not subtle. He had previously expressed interest on Solus. He could have just hammered quietly and continued the game. is it not obvious by now? i WANTED townies to know my role. you're right that if i wanted NOBODY to know my role i would have shut up and not said anything. i wanted to clue townies, so i used code that i decided townies were more likely to understand (due to the logic requiring an intimate understanding of a townie mindset to see my motivations for the hammer)
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May 18, 2021 01:52
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anyway that was just a quick catchup. im about to spend time with family, so i'll see y'all in a bit
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May 18, 2021 01:56
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Barring a charging vig gavel on SNG doesn’t end the game, correct?
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May 18, 2021 02:06
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Sandwolf posted:Barring a charging vig gavel on SNG doesn’t end the game, correct? Seeing as we’ve gone through all the other vigs, the backup, and the mystery roles... I don’t think so
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May 18, 2021 02:20
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Sandwolf posted:Barring a charging vig gavel on SNG doesn’t end the game, correct? That’s correct. But it’s still a god awful idea.
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May 18, 2021 02:21
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Sandwolf posted:Barring a charging vig gavel on SNG doesn’t end the game, correct? AT-LOW posted:We're at MYLO now. With a day town vig, we reach LYLO. With a town vote, we lose. A day scum vig or a scum vote continue the game. Let me know if you see anything wrong with my analysis (Of course, if you're not me, feel free to add me to the list of people who could be a charging vig, as random did)
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May 18, 2021 02:36
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sandnavyguy posted:That’s correct. But it’s still a god awful idea. Whether you flip or not, we lose tonight if we don't hit scum
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May 18, 2021 02:38
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AT-LOW posted:Whether you flip or not, we lose tonight if we don't hit scum Only assuming there are 4 scum. For gods sake do all of you have information on the number of scum in game I apparently don’t?
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May 18, 2021 02:43
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I repeat: this is an obvious freaking ploy, and the fact that the rest of town is dancing to their tune is infuriating
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May 18, 2021 02:44
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sandnavyguy posted:I repeat: this is an obvious freaking ploy, and the fact that the rest of town is dancing to their tune is infuriating I mean, either way I agree that merk is being scummy as heck and steak seems to be right there with him. Thus my vote. These past few pages went by very quickly and were very clearly scum pushing hard to end quickly.
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May 18, 2021 02:47
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sandnavyguy posted:Only assuming there are 4 scum. For gods sake do all of you have information on the number of scum in game I apparently don’t? without a 3P to at least factor against it, 4 people feels likely in a 15 person game
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May 18, 2021 03:05
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Sandwolf posted:without a 3P to at least factor against it, 4 people feels likely in a 15 person game Voodoofly posted:Player List there should be 17 Not sure how I lost Solus and Minus will fix at some point
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May 18, 2021 03:17
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1000% 4 scum ##activate the gavel
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May 18, 2021 03:18
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.random posted:I mean, either way I agree that merk is being scummy as heck and steak seems to be right there with him. Thus my vote. i think merk is probably scum but i dont care because i also think dy is *definitely* scum
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May 18, 2021 03:33
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oh, but i just saw that more people are voting merk now. so that works too ##vote merk
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May 18, 2021 03:34
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im not trying to rush anything, but nobody scumrushed on dy, nobody scumrushed on merk when he was as -3 for a while. cmon this is obvious
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May 18, 2021 03:35
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Still haven't caught up, had no time tonight. Gonna do a scummy lookin pop in to ask what's the gavel count is at? The fact that it's slowly picked up steam but hasnt exploded makes me feel like it might be on target even if I don't agree with the logic behind it. Also, I skimmed and saw people claiming and poo poo. I will not be doing that, just fyi.
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May 18, 2021 03:37
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Mr. Steak posted:im not trying to rush anything, but nobody scumrushed on dy, nobody scumrushed on merk when he was as -3 for a while. cmon this is obvious There could already scum on him, I don't like this. ##unvote
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May 18, 2021 03:38
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You could be right, and I'm still fine with voting him but that was bad logic.
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May 18, 2021 03:39
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I think gavel is at 4 but idk. Merk, AT-LOW, steak, sandwolf?
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May 18, 2021 03:41
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Steak voting the gavel and merk is either very scummy or perfectly steak hedging his bets
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May 18, 2021 03:42
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Sandwolf should I gavel y/n/m?
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May 18, 2021 04:02
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I don’t know man I don’t think I feel comfortable advising on this but I think you’ve taken Somber’s role in my mind as the townie person I’m looking to
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May 18, 2021 04:04
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##vote steak
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May 18, 2021 04:10
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Philip J. Fry posted:There could already scum on him, I don't like this. Indeed. Mr. Steak posted:im not trying to rush anything, but nobody scumrushed on dy, nobody scumrushed on merk when he was as -3 for a while. cmon this is obvious merk cased SNG who still vehemently opposes merk's plan? random merk was at -3 and was not scumrushed who else was on merk besides fry? SNG and random If merk is town, and therefore scumrushable, then scum was probably already on merk and the lack of scumrush is meaningless cmon steak this is obvious
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May 18, 2021 05:15
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Has anyone received a bulletproof vest
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AT-LOW posted:who still vehemently opposes merk's plan? random I do still think it’s a bad idea, but my biggest issue was the way it was being pushed and rushed. quote:merk was at -3 and was not scumrushed Or..uh.. merk is scum and therefore is not being scum rushed. Makes you think, right?
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