Defining Fascism: "... but nobody ever asks WHY fascism?"

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sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

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6. appeal to a frustrated middle class

Check. Poor rural Southerners

You went off the rails on this point for sure.

And in general you're making the CSA fit this definition of fascism by playing very fast and loose with the meanings of the terms he's using, e.g. "modernism" here doesn't mean "any new thing somebody doesn't like."

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sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

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sean10mm fucked around with this message at 14:10 on May 9, 2021

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sean10mm: Jun 29, 2005; It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Muscle Tracer posted:

An example of this is "The Futurist Manifesto," written in 1909 by Italian poet Filippo Marinetti, who was a self-identified fascist.
A blend of idealizing youth, violent struggle, and the then-modern aesthetics of speed and industry, but also the destruction of the past and an explicit rejection of cultural progressivism, especially women's rights in this case. To me what binds this specific flavor of fascism together is that it provides specifically young, downtrodden men with a supremacist ideal and a suggestion of what to do with that ideal.

I wonder if, in general, there is something to learn by examining the intended audiences of fascism, rather than the specific ideals used to appeal to that audience.

The "downtrodden" part is suspect because actual fascist movements tend to be middle class in composition, not working class or poor.

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