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I was tired of zombie stuff 10 years ago but have avoided the genre and now am pretty psyched to see someone with Snyder's talent take another crack at it (especially with nearly 2 decades of experience amassed since Dawn)
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SlimGoodbody posted:Once McCloud shows up again, literally all the exact people I was trying not to mention will have said the exact thing I'm talking about. "I'm not going to name names but here's one very specific name, also even tho I have these people ignored I know that they are saying the exact thing I'm accusing them of while boasting about having them on ignore" what is the point of posting like this exactly?
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May 24, 2021 04:37
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Comrade Fakename posted:"Edgy" was probably a sillier term than I should have used, but you're the one who was claiming that Disney wouldn't allow Snyder to include elements in his films, and I ask what these too-hot controversial inclusions are? TBF they said Snyder would "want to have stuff in it that they don’t want" and one incredibly basic thing is: there's no way Snyder would want a second unit directing all (or even the majority of) the action for his movie. I honestly think Snyder pre-JL fiasco would have gotten along with Marvel alright since he seems like a pretty reasonable guy overall. He seemed to follow studio notes and included world building stuff they requested in MoS and BvS, and was even following a lot of their directives with Justice League until he basically reached a breaking point where their micro-managing became too much for him*. I absolutely think after that experience he wouldn't go back to do a big franchise film where he didn't get to be the one making a lot of the final decisions, not even because his stuff is "too extreme mannnnn" or whatever but because he has probably had enough of that kind of studio oversight. * and again, for context, I think his breaking point here was pretty generous: he had pitched Justice League as a trilogy and they agreed and were totally on board with his ideas and direction until the backlash to BvS hit and they started chipping away at this, taking it from a trilogy to a two-parter to a single movie that they kept trying to whittle down to 2 hours when he finally just said "this isn't what I signed on to make" and cut his losses
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May 24, 2021 17:11
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NieR Occomata posted:Calling Sean Spicer a mouthpiece for a man who attempted to install a dictatorship is perhaps the least inflammatory and most accurate way of describing his role in the Trump administration to the point where I’d sincerely wonder if you were in a coma for the past four years if you had a problem with that characterization. For context, there's a history of people accusing Snyder of being a fascist provocateur and his fans of being chuds who mainly like his stuff because Disney is too woke for them. So describing what was probably at worst a poor-taste gimmick casting in the manner above probably got people's defenses way up.
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May 24, 2021 17:18
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NieR Occomata posted:That’s on Snyder for deciding to give a mouthpiece for a fascist racist piece of poo poo a paycheck for appearing in his movie, not on the rando sa forums poster for calling it out as such. Lol see this is the exact thing, you make a fairly reasonable point that Snyder shouldn't have given a paycheck to Spicer, okay fair, criticism noted. Then you go on this rant about Snyder's major flaws as a filmmaker that seem made up out of whole cloth. Like, "he thinks he and only he can make a movie this 'clever' and 'layered'..." is completely contradicted by everything people who work with and collaborate with him have ever said about him, and how genuinely enthusiastic a fan of movies he seems to be (based on his own interviews but also the slew of references he puts in his films) and how he seems to value input from all sides. You're not even just critiquing flaws in the story, you're making up behind-the-scenes justifications for why those flaws happened which seem to be entirely "everyone involved is stupid and thinks Snyder is a genius, when only I can see through this mirage"
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May 24, 2021 17:47
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NieR Occomata posted:is actively ignoring reality Yeah you're just making up some new reality in your head
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May 24, 2021 19:05
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I heard Tarantino is doing his own version of 'Happy Feet' that's NC-17
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May 25, 2021 15:49
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MacheteZombie posted:I took the time loop speech just Vanderohe being dramatic to setup his sweet detonation. On initial watch I wasn't sure if like a bunch of it was in Dieter's head since like, Peters was wearing a different shirt, and yeah the handkerchief and necklace were there but I thought he "noticed" those after Van's speech. So I thought maybe it was a little bit of fun like Dieter was seeing details and second guessing whether he'd seen them on his friends (or doing the opposite and remembering details he was superimposing them onto the corpses). The extra weird scifi stuff tho makes it more plausible that something else was going on, I do wonder if there are more hints on multiple rewatches.
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May 25, 2021 21:06
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SlimGoodbody posted:I don't know if you guys keep lolno-ing people's valid and well explained critiques, which have been frequently raised by numerous people, out of bad faith trolling or if you literally don't understand that you're constantly doing it every time anything about this director's projects come up, it's moved beyond frustrating and into the realm of anthropological fascination. Like it's literally the firmament of the thing that happens in every thread where the director comes up and then you feel slighted because everyone is accusing you of saying "if you didn't like Snyder's masterpiece it's because you weren't smart enough to understand the huge brain geniusness of it all and actually anything you think could be lacking in it is actually there and good or if it's not there it's also good and that's why it's good." But you're doing it. This is the thing, happening, currently. I was going to explain to you how a message board works but instead i'll just suggest you gently caress off with this constant, insufferable whining about Snyder fans
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May 26, 2021 00:04
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Shageletic posted:Why do we gotta attack ppl? Its just a movie. All the zoo animals getting restless I guess Anyway I maybe mentioned that I watched this last night. I rewatched the opening credits today, genuinely love the way those are done as backstory for some characters but also basically a mini-movie for a character who doesn't appear again. That was clever and fun. I do wish some of the little teaser stuff peppered throughout amounted to more within this movie but they were cool hooks for the expanded universe they are working on. This was mostly just a fun movie with some cool shots and sequences, which is about what I expected.
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May 26, 2021 00:27
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Oh hey so what did you guys think of the movie besides the whole AIDs thing or wahtever
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May 26, 2021 21:08
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CelticPredator posted:They don’t like the movies and want to make you all mad. It's working, I'm mad. and crying
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May 26, 2021 22:55
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John Wick of Dogs posted:That's a good read of Zeus and the zombies. I just watched the RLM review and it was really weird that thought Zeus (who they hilariously called "Conan the Zomberian") wanted to raise a zombie army to take over the world and didn't understand why he thought he could do that or why he would want to. I was listening and like "Where the heck are they getting that from?" lol so they literally made a motivation up in their head then argued against it? wtf?
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May 27, 2021 01:54
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The entire point of the zombies in this movie is that we found out they aren't mindless but their minds are still unknowable. We don't know their motivations or hopes or whatever, that makes them more alien. We know from genre convention and a few scenes that they have a general goal to multiply and spread which presumably would eventually consume the human population of earth, but they also don't seem to be in a specific hurry to bust out of Vegas at the moment, so going "well their plan to take over the world is pretty stupid" is a weird non-sequitur . If anything I would say that Zeus seems to be experimenting with ways to create new and maybe better types of zombies (through whatever he does to make alphas, through zombie breeding, etc)
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May 27, 2021 04:25
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teagone posted:Common sense also suggests the alphas are smart enough to know how to leave, but choose not to. So...... Yeah Zeus at the very least through his use of tools should easily be able to clear the obstacle of "a pretty tall wall" (especially when there are obviously some gaps in this defense as evidenced by the coyote and team getting in and out) and the fact that there's no evidence that they are even attempting this should be enough evidence that it's not a priority for them
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May 27, 2021 18:47
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Judakel posted:How would they leave if they don't know the entrance the coyote uses. On how to leave: create a makeshift bridge from a nearby tall building, construct some kind of ladder or even a rudimentary ramp by piling up debris (or even other zombies if they are all under his thrall), search the perimeter for weak spots like the velociraptors in JP. The entire point of the shipping container wall is that the people who built it assume that these are mindless zombies who won't even be able to use the most basic of strategies like stacking stuff to climb on, this goes out the window with Zeus's intelligence and strategic use of tools. As for the desire to grow, I think that's obvious and you make some good points about the offerings, but I don't think "desire to grow and expand" has an obvious endpoint of "world domination". I mentioned earlier that my takeaway was the Zeus was trying to experiment with ways to make "better" zombies. He may have witnessed the diluted effect that his own creations had when making their own zombies (creating shamblers instead of alphas) and the zombie baby seems to be another step in this process. This may at some point down the line lead to him wanting to expand their "kingdom" outward and grown their population exponentially, but it doesn't come across as an imminent thing, and it doesn't necessarily mean world domination (for one thing they might quickly realize that "turning everyone into zombies" cuts into their food supply pretty quick).
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May 27, 2021 19:38
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Judakel posted:Oh stop it. Motherfucker is superman now. But at the same time all it takes (as we've seen) is a single alpha to get loose and travel to a nearby city to infect them and they quickly cause a snowball effect and make poo poo harder to contain. There's heavy security in the surrounding camp and presumably some cities might have precautions if someone seems infected, but most of this is based on their understanding of shamblers. If Zeus badly wanted to break out and gently caress poo poo up he could find a way over the walls then send a few alphas in any given direction (or numerous directions to hedge his bets), almost anyone they encountered wouldn't be prepared for them and unless the military caught on very quickly you'd have secondary, tertiary, etc outbreaks very quickly, as well a more paranoia about how this even happened and what to do to stop it.
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May 28, 2021 00:16
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Why would Zack Snyder destroy his good will by making a movie
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May 28, 2021 22:15
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Mandrel posted:hold on, zombie rape? Could be one of two things: - there was an article from 2011 when a different director was attached, where he stated that zombies raped human females as the primary way to create more zombies (this aspect was obviously excised in the released film) - there was a theory that the above motivation was why Geeta was being held captive but otherwise unharmed, but the evidence for this is purely speculative
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Jun 7, 2021 16:39
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There's still a potentially compelling question of why they left Geeta and the others alive, but the fact is that if the above was part of Zeus's plan/methods there would probably be evidence of it elsewhere: it's not like Geeta and her friends are the first living women the zombies have come across this entire time. The more obvious answers are that they are being kept either as food or bait, and the fact that one of Lily's former charges came back after a time means there's even a possibility that they're just serving out a kind of makeshift prison sentence for trespassing or something.
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Jun 7, 2021 17:02
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is where people run into trouble understanding visual storytelling. The ‘alpha zombies’ obviously don’t speak English, so people are going off of what the human protagonists say they believe - i.e. that the captives are going to be subjected to nebulous bad things. Yeah this is all good too. I mentioned before that it's obvious Zeus is "experimenting", he's obviously figured out that he is the only one who can create Alphas and isn't at all interested in just creating an ever expanding army of shamblers which seems like it would be extremely easy for him to do. Didn't catch the extra bodies/gore implying that even Alpha-fication is a more risky process and therefore he similarly isn't immediately turning every single living person who crosses into the territory into an Alpha (which, again, with his resources and the fact that almost nobody knows what they are dealing with would be almost trivially easy for him to do to the team at the point they first enter the city)
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Jun 7, 2021 20:50
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Come the gently caress on, most people were saying your reading was completely reasonable Yeah I feel like a few people were snarky but then most people were like "that's not fair, what's up with that"
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Jun 8, 2021 20:05
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Real Cool Catfish posted:When was Zack Snyders last “wow this is amazing” film? Friend and I were chatting afterwards and genuinely don’t know. I mean it’s very much ymmv, I personally wasn’t blown away by his early stuff and became a big fan of his DC stuff, which I think has some of the better super hero action of the last few years.
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Jun 14, 2021 01:08
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Tbf we will have to wait for his response in 46 days
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Slugworth posted:Just because the argument has been brought back from the dead,
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