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Lead out in cuffs posted:So I just saw some CPC lawn signs, and their slogan is "Secure the Future". Like, literally paraphrasing the fourteen words? because chuds are very very used to being called nazis
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ZShakespeare posted:This one gets it. They really, really don't.
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Sep 17, 2021 22:49
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Furnaceface posted:If we ever get the true covid numbers out of BC I wonder how it will actually stack up against places like Manitoba that just let the virus rampage through the populace or Ontario that just continually ended preventative measures early sparking new waves to happen (like right now holy poo poo Simcoe County schools are getting wrecked). unsure—tough to say without comically lovely officials and bad data really. I personally am the only BCer I know that got it, and that was because I got unbelievably unlucky right at the start of the whole thing. I'm sure there was loads of spread and way worse than was getting reported (lmao @ the "hospitalization" definition loving numbers until two months ago), but at least from anecdotes the really scary spreads were in LTCs and the interior Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Nov 16, 2021 |
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Nov 16, 2021 20:56
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Well, that was fast https://twitter.com/CBCKatie/status/1460764842382475265
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Nov 17, 2021 01:33
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ARACHTION posted:Anyone in or with family in Sumas Prairie in Abbotsford get the gently caress out right now. (Immediate evacuation orders with significant risk to life) And for the love of God don't wait
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Nov 17, 2021 05:32
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Starsfan posted:huh I am somewhat surprised that her hold on people held up after the prophesized Trump invasion of Canada / her installation as queen never took place.
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Nov 26, 2021 03:47
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Historically in these kinds of movements, prophecies failing to come true only strengthen people's faith. Exactly 
Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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Nov 26, 2021 05:02
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TheCenturion posted:How is 'the psych eval showed that she is sane and competent' not immediately followed by 'and will therefore stand trial for incitement to violence?' You know the answer to that
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Dec 1, 2021 17:18
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Huh. https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/1466187644040327174 quote:B.C. RCMP spokesperson Staff Sgt. Janelle Shoihet said the Mounties could not confirm whether Didulo was detained or any details of her account. So no charges at all? loving A Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Dec 3, 2021 00:21
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IT BURNS posted:Any news on supplies in Vancouver/highway rebuilds? Seems like the weather is still loving with things. It is, but the rail from Kelowna to van is open again, and 8 and 99 are getting there. 1... woof.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:57
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol I've had a a sore throat, congestion and feverishness for most of the last week. Couldn't get a COVID test because the test sites were shut down for the cold. Today they just reopened the test site in Vancouver, and the site with wait times said it was only a 40 minute wait. So I took the car and drove over there. There was a line of cars stretching at least seven blocks. I just measured on the map, and it was at least 1.5km long. I gave up before I could even find the end of it. VCH was dogshit terrible in the weather, it's mystifying how different FH was. They were still understaffed, but at least Burnaby/tricities/Surrey was relatively humming It's too bad nothing at all could be done about it... or attempted.
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Jan 4, 2022 01:13
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Yeah DBH can... I dunno, do something other than what she's currently doing Still can't believe that Ontario is doing more than BC, or that Alberta has better data, etc
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Jan 4, 2022 04:12
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So I read that article, and it mostly seems to have been a journalist dealing with frustrations with FOIs and the fragmentation of health information in our system of half a dozen separate health authorities. Either they're collecting data necessary to respond to the changing landscape of outbreak in the province and not reporting much of it, or they're just not. Everything I read states the former, but if that's true: yikesaroo! I mean just compare the dashboards if you've got time! There's a lot to sift through, so just skip to the Twitter thread at the bottom if you want the tl;Dr. It's all tiring and nobody needs to read that much. WRT the testing: it's bad! Goofus BC, Gallant Alberta. At first it doesn't look too different, but there's more to it than that. Even information requests are straight up not being answered in a manner that could be considered "passable." Some consider it to be the worst in Canada... however accurate or inaccurate that is. For a while they deliberately counted hospitalizations differently than the rest of the country. They also have gone back and forth on LTC facility reporting. Geo reporting has also wwaaaaaaayyyyyy shittier than most provinces. Local journo McElroy has also been hammering the BC CDC over it the entire pandemic, as he's been shut out multiple times asking for data at least on par with Alberta (thread): https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1335353581243789312 Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 5, 2022 |
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Jan 5, 2022 02:32
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Oof yeah, I can't even imagine  Best of luck to you all, please post in the thread if there's something that could be done/an initiative you know of that helps any
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Jan 5, 2022 03:44
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Lead out in cuffs posted:This is a weird binarization of the issue. How much data is "necessary"? It sure would be great to be like the PRC and deploy a literal army of contact tracers, test collectors and testing labs to any city facing an outbreak, but I don't know if that's at all politically feasible in Canada. And if it were, it would certainly require massive support from the federal government. Ah, okay. Ignoring after this because you're starting from a conclusion that what's getting collected/reported is sufficient and we are literally never going to see eye to eye on this one. I've had to watch what bad management of pandemic response does to the people working it firsthand, and while it's better than what's going on in the states it's in no way "good," or should be immune from criticism. When we're still having issues with it being difficult for nurses wear proper PPE in tasks like testing/vaccinating—that alone is enough for a public health officer to come under scrutiny. It doesn't take a PRC like effort to match, say, Quebec or Ontario, and that's all that needs to get said. quote:I'm grouping the above together because they seem to be about the same thing. So the issue is not having the city-level data? It'd be nice to have for sure, but I can't say it would change what precautions I'd have taken. And they definitely have that data in some form, and have acted on it. When they were rolling out vaccines, they prioritised neighbourhoods with higher case counts. This just doesn't seem like something to get furious about. quote:That's the same article ChickenDoodle posted above, and again it mostly seems to be complaining about the FOI process, which, as the article admits, is slowed up mostly because the number of FOI requests has skyrocketed while the majority of the bureaucrats who would deal with them are working from home and less efficient at responding. The author does a bit of hand-wringing about why the provincial government doesn't just hire more FOI request-fulfillers in each of their departments, but there is most definitely a balancing act between that and people screeching about government waste and inefficiency. And in her particular case, it sounds like she got data, but was trying to request further data that either didn't exist or was likely protected for privacy reasons (e.g. contact tracing). She isn't super clear about what was actually missing, and she definitely wasn't "straight up not answered". The end result is the same. It does not matter. This one person is not the only outlet making requests to fill gaps in reporting. If the data must come through that vehicle, it is always going to take a fair amount of time, and that lies at the the province's feet. It could be avoided entirely by transparent reporting from the start, and those with the power to do this know this. quote:I think I made a post earlier in this thread about Jens Von Bergmann. You know, I broadly agree with a lot of the causes he supports, but he's a walking case study in Dunning-Kruger, and spouts his vitriolic opinion at anyone who'll listen. The local press seems to have fallen into quoting him as an authority on anything and everything involving data. But please never, ever, take Jens' opinion to be that of an expert, or even worthy of taking seriously. quote:That's not even what that article says. They counted a particular number -- people in ICU beds with active cases, and were open about that being what they were reporting. And then they eventually also started reporting numbers of people in ICU beds with post-COVID complications, like Manitoba was doing? I still don't see this as a huge gently caress-up or anything to get especially angry about. quote:That article just says they had a month-long lapse in reporting during a massive wave of LTC COVID because they didn't have the staff to gather and report the numbers. To which you might say "they should have just hired more epidemiologists", and to which I might reply "how many epidemiologists do you think were available for hire and already working flat-out on COVID in late 2020?" quote:Like, I would be really happy if they had put more money into expanding testing and contact tracing capacity, but I'm still not seeing how they were "loving up all the data".
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Jan 5, 2022 08:21
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/\/\  Koos Group posted:Very well, any objections to Drewjitsu becoming IK? Yes, but not for any reason. I just want to for giggles
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Jan 6, 2022 06:18
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Ignoble Kakistocrat
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Jan 6, 2022 06:32
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drat and here I was considering taking Alberta off my "never ever" list of places to visit
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Jan 6, 2022 23:21
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On the road atm, is there a good rundown anywhere on the DBH presser that isn't a video? Having trouble finding things on Twitter
Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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Jan 8, 2022 02:32
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Koos Group posted:I suppose I'll just make them both IK. Or cut the baby in half? Jokeprobe them both and ik nobody?
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Jan 8, 2022 07:22
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https://twitter.com/richardzussman/status/1480739461646348291 what
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Jan 11, 2022 05:10
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There are other indicators, like poop sleuthing, other states/territories that had similar populations, and the fact that they just let 'er rip making the theoretical peak more likely to be reached faster But yeah, more of the same poo poo.
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Jan 15, 2022 01:07
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Franks Happy Place posted:I just looked at the poop sleuth report Dr. Bonnie is pinning this all on and saw a footnote that, unlike other jurisdictions (eg Ottawa), the Metro Vancouver numbers are not normalized based on water flow conditions, and specifically notes that "heavy rain or snow melt conditions would have a significant effect" (paraphrasing) on the data. Oh, they might be doing what Boston's doing and normalizing it based on the presence of other viruses in turds that don't really harm us but are relatively consistent in level So yeah, they're not calculating snow melt, but they're accounting for dilution in another way
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Jan 15, 2022 03:09
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Then: "let's keep crowing about how kids don't get covid and we can keep schools open" Now: 44% of eligible 5-11 year olds have their first shot
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Jan 16, 2022 02:47
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pokeyman posted:Finally learned why BC seems to give even fewer fucks about covid than average! Hope it was just a dark throwaway quip and not reality Because, gently caress.
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Jan 18, 2022 02:22
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I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm just not.
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Jan 21, 2022 23:26
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For me it's the messaging. Bonnie will say something like "we're treating it like flu/rsv/common cold" in the context of something that shouldn't be taken to mean what it sounds like, and people who should absolutely know better take that one phrase and run with it. It happens over and over (eg cloth masks, schools being "safe", overcomplicated isolation advice). I guarantee you I'm going to have to send people home on Monday for not masking due to that presser. Not really DBH's fault, but God drat have someone edit a speech first to scrub it of obvious sources of misunderstanding.
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Jan 23, 2022 03:44
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Literally nobody is saying this. Hope you don't smoke, that big'a strawman is a fire hazard y'know. There's plenty of deficiency in BC's approach to data reporting and collection compared to other provinces. Not all of it is really in their control, but some of it like the "let's lump 0-20s together in hospitalization stats" releases isn't helpful given pediatric immune systems are different than those of teens. https://twitter.com/adriandix/status/1484614858154733568
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Jan 24, 2022 00:21
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conspiracy-posting, and either way inimical to the purpose of the thread.
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Yeah there was the site closures for weather in VCH that made things tough too. Omicron really hosed a lot of things fast. By the way, is there a reason more wastewater tests aren't done? Just hesitant to spend resources on an experimental/unproven thing? I quite like what Boston's done with theirs.
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Jan 24, 2022 03:07
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Neat, that's a good dashboard! BC does very infrequent wastewater sampling, but it's unclear if there are any plans to use it more often
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Jan 24, 2022 04:02
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Lead out in cuffs posted:From that link it seems like they're doing it most days (in Metro Vancouver). I'm pretty sure there've been announcements from the PHO about using that data, from which (like Alberta) they believed that we've most likely hit the peak for infections from Omicron. But it's something to watch for sure. We're far from being out of the woods. They test 3x a week, but haven't reported since Jan 17. There was also a gap between Dec 21 and Jan 4. 
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Jan 24, 2022 07:53
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They have always been divorced from reality. It literally does not matter what they say, you can't believe a word of it and people who listen condition themselves to believe untruth in general.
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Jan 30, 2022 20:01
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Not for nothin, but this seems appropriate. https://twitter.com/TraceyKent/status/1489249121915523074 Mr. Mercury fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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Feb 3, 2022 18:46
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That happened, I guess https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1489737384552017921
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Feb 5, 2022 01:34
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Godspeed you crazy biking bastards https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1490041798541987840
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Feb 5, 2022 20:20
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I find it's easier to move big objects in smaller pieces.
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Feb 7, 2022 16:25
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Do we really need to Clancypost? Hypotheticals here don't exactly do us much good in the short term
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Feb 27, 2022 20:42
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Cockblocking the trucker sympathisers in the CPC seems to be worthwhile, as frustrating as the NDP yet again trading their power for magic beans is
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Mar 22, 2022 03:50
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Look, say what you will about Alberta
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Apr 23, 2022 15:58
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Of all the places on earth, Alberta is definitely one of them
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Apr 23, 2022 20:04
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