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learnincurve posted:Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this. 
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Freedom Day will soon be upon us. It is time to take a holiday from the office at home; a jaunt from joblessness; a vacation from vagrancy. It is time to be free to work again. Freedom.
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Thank a veteran. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tidying up. I was about to put some Christmas ornaments that I found ontop of a cupboard in the roof until the wife pointed out if I just left them another 6 months it'd be Christmas again. Also can you remove me from the Sheffield South East CLP in the OP Guavanaut? Not been a member since Keith won the leadership.
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Nonsense posted:Thank a veteran. 
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I think the idea is that summer is usually quiet because parliament is on holiday and we should theoretically have better things to do with our lives than post.
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I'm gonna get a sunburn, anyone else wanna gonna join burnt club this year?
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OwlFancier posted:we should theoretically have better things to do with our lives than post. and yet
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Crankit posted:I'm gonna get a sunburn, anyone else wanna gonna join burnt club this year? Picked up a lovely sunburn on my face on Friday when the weather on Arthur’s Seat was much nicer than expected. (Thanks to everyone for your kind congratulations on the last page of previous thread!)
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I am sort of lucky/unlucky in that while I burn fairly easily I don't seem to burn badly. Also I tend to keep tans for months and pick them up very easily. I rarely go out without sunblock or covering though so it's fairly academic. I really want like, a summer cloak or something made of thin material just to add some shade when I am out. Muslin or calico or something. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:A random thought that someone much more clever has probably already come up with and rejected, but one thing that I think makes the UK quite so TERF-y is the underlying structure of society. American feminists fought to make women the legal and societal equals to men because the national myth of America is based on equality, while the British flavour of radical feminism (people always forget what the RF stands for) actually tried to establish women as a separate and privileged class because the British national character is still absolutely class-riven. naw, US and UK radical feminisms influenced each other heavily. WAVAW at its second-wave height was a multi-country movement Anti-pornography second-wave feminism existed also in the US (including many of its stranger alliances which are familiar today) and much of this moved across the pond easily. it's true that in the 1990s there is a undeniable divergence. Constitutionalism is a strong force in the US. Anti-pornography feminism foundered on the rocks of much tougher US conceptions of free speech - initial successes in the 1980s were decisively crushed in court - and instead anti-harassment feminism began to displace it as the primary active movement. This would shift the context to civil rights and harms in the workplace. In the UK however the campaign against Page Three, lad mags, etc. continued to gather steam and only succeeded in the 2010s. The flip side is that faith-and-family conservatism went on from strength to strength on the right in the US throughout the 1990s and 2000s, whereas it faded into irrelevance in the UK with the collapse of back-to-basics Toryism the 'sex wars' were a closely fought thing to begin with. One point is that UK women have just been that much more conservative and capital-C Conservative than US women, in the straightforward sense that UK women only began voting majority red in the era of Blair whilst US women began voting blue in the era of Kennedy. In this respect it is the US which is unusual - across all Western Europe, women have traditionally voted for conservatives or Christian democrats in speaking with specialists, a complaint I've heard is that the narrative of the fall of the second wave fails to capture continental feminism and how this influence tacitly shows up in edges of the UK experience (e.g. with the Nordic model on prostitution regulation) ronya fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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ronya posted:Anti-pornography second-wave feminism existed also in the US (including many of its stranger alliances which are familiar today)   ronya posted:it's true that in the 1990s there is a undeniable divergence. Constitutionalism is a strong force in the US. Anti-pornography feminism foundered on the rocks of much tougher US conceptions of free speech - initial successes in the 1980s were decisively crushed in court - and instead anti-harassment feminism began to displace it as the primary active movement. This would shift the context to civil rights and harms in the workplace. ronya posted:The flip side is that faith-and-family conservatism went on from strength to strength on the right in the US throughout the 1990s and 2000s, whereas it faded into irrelevance in the UK with the collapse of back-to-basics Toryism ronya posted:In the UK however the campaign against Page Three, lad mags, etc. continued to gather steam and only succeeded in the 2010s.
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christians going pro-fetus is very interesting to me. when roe v wade was announced a number of conservative groups like the southern baptists were pretty ambivalent and open to the idea of some abortions. it was viewed by many as a strictly catholic issue which is interesting to me as a lot of current conservative christians like to strongly delineate the separations between their churches and catholicism
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Just crossed over into NI, so technically first international travel in 18 months - feels like summer,  you slags
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As Piers Morgan is once again in the news for calling a tennis player a snowflake for not wanting to face criticism at a press conference, let’s enjoy this picture of his face seconds before he stormed off his own show, live on air, because a fellow presenter offered some mild criticism of his racist, sexist bullshit. 
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OwlFancier posted:we should theoretically have better things to do with our lives than post. lol lmao
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smellmycheese posted:As Piers Morgan is once again in the news for calling a tennis player a snowflake for not wanting to face criticism at a press conference, let’s enjoy this picture of his face seconds before he stormed off his own show, live on air, because a fellow presenter offered some mild criticism of his racist, sexist bullshit. Lol why is the back of his head bulging out like that? Presumably the part of the brain that handles smugness
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Failed Imagineer posted:Just crossed over into NI, so technically first international travel in 18 months - feels like summer, failte gu the EU vassal statelet of norn irearnd do not litter are countryside 
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I'd like to submit another podcast for the OP. Mandatory Redistribution Party - Two northern comedians try to be educational about various socialist topics.
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mediaphage posted:christians going pro-fetus is very interesting to me. when roe v wade was announced a number of conservative groups like the southern baptists were pretty ambivalent and open to the idea of some abortions. Like if you concern yourselves with the people you're supposed to according to the Bible, hungry, homeless, sick, prisoners, etc. then you're going to be spending a lot of time advocating for people who are sometimes abrasive and difficult to work with and might not even be grateful about it. It's still right to feed people and oppose inhumanity and all the rest, and you shouldn't do that for applause, but because it's right (and for Christians, because it should be considered a matter of salvation), but it's hard thankless work and then you sometimes get called a oval office at the end of it. Whereas the unborn don't talk back, and so it doesn't require any serious effort (material or moral) to advocate for them. You get a quick dose of feel-good at no expense. You ever see the pro-lifers going around poor communities giving out vitamin and folic acid supplements and providing dietary advice and smoking cessation products to pregnant people and fighting for clean water? I don't, even though that would prevent thousands of spontaneous abortions. Because it's all about lazy feel good moralism without having to leave your sofa other than to wave signs and shout at people. The preacher didn't directly link this to neoliberalism, Bush-Reaganism, anti-welfare sentiment, and the growth of the prison-industrial complex, but I find it very hard not to. Tesla was right posted:I'd like to submit another podcast for the OP. 
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Convex posted:Lol why is the back of his head bulging out like that? Presumably the part of the brain that handles smugness Because he’s a bloated sack of poo poo
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Convex posted:Lol why is the back of his head bulging out like that? Presumably the part of the brain that handles smugness https://twitter.com/charltonbrooker/status/1974283482?lang=en
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crispix posted:failte gu the EU vassal statelet of norn irearnd Too late I already flytipped an old mattress and a bunch of pro-EU propaganda leaflets on the hard shoulder of the M1
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Failed Imagineer posted:Too late I already flytipped an old mattress and a bunch of pro-EU propaganda leaflets on the hard shoulder of the M1 that's a beating where are you going? there's nothing up here
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I just read this, so now I'm going to make you all read it too:The Times posted:
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crispix posted:that's a beating Just passing through on the way to Donegal. Although have to make a stop off in Ballycastle for the missus' work, they're shooting TV there because the big empty void nothing means nobody accidentally wanders into frame
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Pistol_Pete posted:Ryan Wain is political director at the Tony Blair Institute Read my article in The Times about how people like me are being silenced by back seat drivers and how the only way to promote open debate is to silence them back.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I just read this, so now I'm going to make you all read it too: Failed Imagineer posted:they're shooting TV there because the big empty void 
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Guavanaut posted:Debate is vital which is why we must kick out people who don't agree with us! (but only the left) Yeah, if I'm understanding the article correctly, under a cover of calling for open debate, he's demanding that left-wing MPs be expelled from the party. If anyone had any doubts that the Labour right weren't going to double down on making attacks on the left their key priority, well, there's your answer.
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Failed Imagineer posted:the big empty void nothing means nobody well, i have something to do today! gonna stop dead and look right at that camera 
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Pistol_Pete posted:I just read this, so now I'm going to make you all read it too: Kicking the left MPs out is the best hope of a left wing party starting so I agree with the TBI
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WHO has adopted a new naming convention for the virus it'll be interesting to see which outlets follow it and when. Sadly they did not go for the lovely Leaders Variant Nomenclature, but rather Greek letters to be easy-to-pronounce and non-stigmatising. Current variants of concern: Alpha (B.1.1.7, 'UK variant') Beta (B.1.351, 'South African variant') Gamma (P.1 'Brazilian variant') Delta (B.1.617.2, 'Indian variant')
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I understand brits like gardening. We planted more fruit trees:  Earlier on we planted potatoes, radishes, red beets and what not  Two more currant bushes (for making cordial/squash) 
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Guavanaut posted:WHO has adopted a new naming convention for the virus it'll be interesting to see which outlets follow it and when. Cool, we're actually going to get Omega Covid now
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Guavanaut posted:WHO has adopted a new naming convention for the virus it'll be interesting to see which outlets follow it and when. Here's praying we never get to Ligma.
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