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Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

bellows lugosi posted:

once i figured out my performance/packet loss issue (lmao my ram was running single channel and couldn't handle the game) it runs like butter for me and folks, the game is good as hell, just purestrain battlefield.

hmm how did you check out the ram thing, I'm dumb and want to make sure mine is doing it right

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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Pharmaskittle posted:

hmm how did you check out the ram thing, I'm dumb and want to make sure mine is doing it right

Download CPU-Z here and run it, it has a page for memory that will tell you if your RAM is setup for dual or single channel.

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

Popete posted:

Download CPU-Z here and run it, it has a page for memory that will tell you if your RAM is setup for dual or single channel.

exactly this

Warad
Aug 10, 2019



2042's soundtrack is actually really good, some of the end of round themes like Manifest and Orbital especially, the problem is the same issue people have already mentioned with the tone. When you have a weird future air-raid siren blaring at you in Kaleidoscope that sounds like it should be playing in something like Passchendaele in BF1 and the park is still 100% Mirror's Edge clean, (and you know Angel is ready to bomb the MVP screen) it's definitely going to leave people feeling it's "a choice."

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



jisforjosh posted:

Future hell world of climate disaster and societal decay is exactly what I wanted but between the soulless operators and maps like Kaleidoscope being pristine and clean when Songdo, SK is extremely near the shore and would be a flooded mess just doesn't sell the atmosphere

hmmm what if there was some sort of sea-wall that could be exploded causing the map to flood:abrathink:

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



explosivo posted:

We all knew when we played the beta but people still went and bought the $100 version to play early :shrug:

yeah but the silver lining there was we got to play for a week, conclude it was awful, and get an immediate refund before it even launched. it was great I felt like I got to speedrun intense disappointment by preordering it on the 12th, playing until the 18th, refunding on the 18th and getting my money back immediately, then buying like five better games during the steam sale

If I had waited to play 22 hours without preordering the $90 one I'd just be out $60 (I used $60 from my refund to buy Elden Ring)

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Frog Act posted:

yeah but the silver lining there was we got to play for a week, conclude it was awful, and get an immediate refund before it even launched. it was great I felt like I got to speedrun intense disappointment by preordering it on the 12th, playing until the 18th, refunding on the 18th and getting my money back immediately, then buying like five better games during the steam sale

If I had waited to play 22 hours without preordering the $90 one I'd just be out $60 (I used $60 from my refund to buy Elden Ring)

Used my refund to get Vanguard and have been pleasantly surprised so far.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Eastbound Spider posted:

hmmm what if there was some sort of sea-wall that could be exploded causing the map to flood:abrathink:

Triggering climate change - blowing up a seawall, maybe if enough wind generators get destroyed than the cyclone spawns, being able to melt the glacier on the Antarctic map - would be amazing. It would also be a lot more interactive, and more like behemoths from Bf1 - something that the losing side can chose to engage as a last-ditch effort to win

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Vampire Panties posted:

Triggering climate change - blowing up a seawall, maybe if enough wind generators get destroyed than the cyclone spawns, being able to melt the glacier on the Antarctic map - would be amazing. It would also be a lot more interactive, and more like behemoths from Bf1 - something that the losing side can chose to engage as a last-ditch effort to win

This game already has crazy levelution events. For instance you can remove the antenna from the top of a skyscraper. It has no actual gameplay effect. But you can do it.

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

bring back skyscrapers you can demolish in the first 30 seconds with some tows and piss off everyone

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

quote:

The most and only important part of this game is talking poo poo, and talking poo poo with the focus, cunning, and determination of a fox hunted by dogs. Squad organization and the team mechanic are false constructions meant to distract you from the One True Purpose of Battlefield: Grinding profanities out of your keyboard like a coke-crazed pole cowboy until gameplay stops and the chat window convulses with loathing. Every second you spend playing this game is a second you've lost on puking vitriol over its community. The only acceptable justification for your participation in a round is killing bad guys; every moment somebody is dead is another moment they're forced to pay attention to your bullshit. For this reason you should never revive teammates.

Celebrate every kill by reminding your victim that they could've spent this time in the company of a loved one. Run into a corner and prone first so they can tell that you're typing. Subtly imply that they play video games so much because they secretly hate themselves and yearn to escape from their lives. If they kill you back, state this explicitly, then assert that they invest themselves into children's games because they crave ego-death and are too cowardly to pursue a fulfilling sexual experience or suicide. Remind them that KDR is irrelevant to the actual structure of the game, and the developers only instituted tracking of it in obeisance to our crude animal fear of domination. If your KDR is higher, add that you justify this fear, and that in a primal setting you would collapse their brainpan with your teeth. Pause briefly to note that fear of defilement after death is nothing more than a shadow cast on the wall of the human psyche by the blinding, hideously bright knowledge of our own mortal inconsequentiality, before continuing to describe in detail the crude zoomorphic rituals you would subject your opponent's corpse to in a pre-agricultural setting.

Take note when you earn a nemesis ribbon and write beautiful erotica detailing the carnal adventures you imagine sharing with your victim. Anoint yourself a priest in a Dionysian mystery cult and then loudly announce your intention to gay marry jets by ramming them. Prepare elaborate epitaphs for snipers before you knife them; afterwards, carry on long simulated conversations with them about how stupid they are, using quotation marks to indicate their responses. Post-script all such conversations with "Wait, how am I talking if I'm loving dead?" If you successfully run somebody over with a MAV, spend a minute making robot sounds and questioning whether or not sufficiently advanced computers have souls. Ask your victims if they will dream while you make exaggerated tea-bagging motions over their corpse by flying up and down.

Erratically and interchangeably quote Mussolini and Eugene V. Debs. Turn on thermal optics in the Viper and then splice footage of you base-camping Wake into an Iraq Mudvayne war crime montage. Put that on YouTube and whistleblow it to Julian Assange's gmail account. Cold read the room until you find out the name of somebody's dead grandmother, then channel her spirit through your keyboard to mock their KDR and make debased sexual claims about their ancestry. Put an IRNV on your gun and spend the whole round making clicking noises and repeating things other people say while alternating capslock. Unironically solicit contributions for Jon Huntsman's presidential campaign. Do literally anything without irony.

Strip naked on nights of the full moon and scream your hatred for mankind into the sky. This will have no direct effect on Battlefield players, but the poisonous qi you release into the universe will bring nightmares to children and kill flowers half a world away, lessening the joy of others by a commensurate but ultimately exponential amount. Kidnap Korean War veterans and subject them to hour-long knife kill montages until they have nervous breakdowns. Tell them that this is the face of modern war. Deliberately mislead children into believing unsustainable things. Provoke the manager of the Battlefield Twitter feed into an argument about electoral fraud in modern Russia, then question the morality of releasing a game depicting non-nuclear industrial warfare between two superpowers as entertainment. Tell him that you no longer enjoy Bad Company 3 and offer to mail him a copy of ArmA.

Trigger another fight about Stinger utility in-game.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer

:hmmyes:

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Warad posted:

2042's soundtrack is actually really good, some of the end of round themes like Manifest and Orbital especially, the problem is the same issue people have already mentioned with the tone. When you have a weird future air-raid siren blaring at you in Kaleidoscope that sounds like it should be playing in something like Passchendaele in BF1 and the park is still 100% Mirror's Edge clean, (and you know Angel is ready to bomb the MVP screen) it's definitely going to leave people feeling it's "a choice."

I only ever hear what sounds like weird Lovecraftian fluting

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Whoops All Chat is gone

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013


i mean, I agree with a bunch of what youre saying but dear lord you sound so old

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Stuff like the sandstorm is actually pretty cool. It completely changes visibility which means you can now traverse the wide spaces without instantly getting dunked on by a random sniper, pilot or driver.

The tornado is also cool but all too rare. A lot of the time it'll spawn at the edges of the map so you barely notice it, but when it decides to move RIGHT ON TOP of a contested point it's awesome. Neither side really knows what to do and a lot of fun chaos happens. I wish they'd happen more often and be better placed

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

i mean, I agree with a bunch of what youre saying but dear lord you sound so old

I'm always curious about this because it usually boils down to "you write in complete sentences, have a paragraph's worth of text, and don't pretend ironic detachment"...but here's hoping.

The kind of mind-numbing tediously focused hate toward 2042 is the product of Battlefield meaning a lot to some people. I've always been very casual toward it but even I was put off by just how uniquely badly they've fudged 2042. The word I would use for it is "mercenary". BF1 felt like they actually gave a poo poo, and BF5 felt like a product that had a semi-coherent vision but was totally corporatized into a "Live Services" hell and managed to struggle and flop its way back into being a decent Battlefield game right before the end. 2042 just feels totally disjointed, like the left hand isn't talking to the right hand and everyone involved was checking items off a list without any real passion in what they were doing. It's very obviously a product of a dysfunctional company and culture and I feel bad for all of the wasted work that went into it.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
I'm still having fun with the game over on PS5. I think there's fundamentally a good game here and it's a shame :dice: managed to bungle the release so poorly though, and I get why people feel offput by it.

I've been having a lot of fun running the condor/hind with the 50mm cannon and playing sky tank/taxi. The condor specifically is a hidden gem of an attack vehicle with competent gunners and will just shred other choppers and demolish infantry.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Vampire Panties posted:

...
Can't loving wait until the medic is dabbing because they revived 15 dudes in a match.
...

Your post was grouchy old man yelling at kids on his lawn drivel. But this line genuinely made me laugh.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


BF1 sold the feeling of "jeez it's the end of the world!" better on lots of its maps, and BF3 had an excellent expansion taking place after warfare & an earthquake (and sandstorms?) wrecked the place -- complete with ragged looking soldiers and settings.

Like the older games actually DID have maps fill with water, have big storms start raging, etc. The tornado can come and go without making a difference.

And yeah you didn't have Angel gawking at you and the cameras, right, riiiight!? You capture all the objectives in BF3 and the Russian HQ is like "maintain this and hold the points so we can go home".

Chronojam fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 30, 2021

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Agreed for the most part the weather effects in this one, just feel kinda there. The sand storm rolling in on Hourglass is the only one that has an effect. It'll def knock down a chopper. Also it looks cool as hell rolling in.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"
Everyone do yourselves a favor, go back and play your favorite BF game and then play 2042.

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

Collapsing Farts posted:

The tornado is also cool but all too rare. A lot of the time it'll spawn at the edges of the map so you barely notice it, but when it decides to move RIGHT ON TOP of a contested point it's awesome. Neither side really knows what to do and a lot of fun chaos happens. I wish they'd happen more often and be better placed

It has a bigger impact on the small map versions and the tornado is one of the coolest features this game added imo. It’s fun to have to watch over your shoulder at a contested cap to see if the tornado is heading your way then all hell breaks lose if it does. It helps that this only occurs enough to make it feel random, rather than beating us over the head with it. However last night I had a match where the tornado was rolling directly over our vehicle deployment area and it instantly threw some poor souls M5C into a rock and exploded.

But yet again, it’s ridiculous that this feature works better on a previous gen and not the main 128 player version. They were willing to nearly completely ruin a game to add 128 players.

On the other hand one of my biggest pet peeves are the random hazards around cap points, especially on breakthrough. Like the exploding blue boxes on the desert side of Renewel by the big wall. They’re right where you need to set up defense and they will shock anyone standing around them. It’s made more frustrating by not being able to tell how severely you’re getting hurt. Or the huge exploding white tanks by the first caps on Breakaway breakthrough. They will wipe out your whole team as attackers and an entrepreneurial defender will realize this. All of this is a little over the top.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Now I'm thinking about Paracel, with the huge sea swell, the lightning striking, the gigantic dead ship lumbering onto land and becoming a new objective zone. Swimming through the choppy water to get to the objectives.

BF2042 removed ducking under the surface, for some reason.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009

Chronojam posted:

BF2042 removed ducking under the surface, for some reason.

Swimming/scuba specialist for season 1

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



jisforjosh posted:

Everyone do yourselves a favor, go back and play your favorite BF game and then play 2042.

I did play some 4 before release and I still like 2042. :tutbutt:

KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

jisforjosh posted:

Everyone do yourselves a favor, go back and play your favorite BF game and then play 2042.

But 2143 doesn't have wide screen support :(

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

jisforjosh posted:

Everyone do yourselves a favor, go back and play your favorite BF game and then play 2042.

I did and, true story, we were playing BF1 Operations last night and me and my squad were holding an objective from what seemed like half the enemy team by ourselves. We had two God-tier support guys who were just hosing them down, a great medic, and me, an idiot Assault guy (who still somehow managed to end up #2 on the scoreboard, lol). Anyway it was just a sustained 5 minutes of malarkey and madness and dying only to respawn and hustle the enemy team off the objectives with explosives and gas and bullets and near the end the Medic says (for the first time ever on mic) "this is fuckin' perfect". I had to agree.

Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Nov 30, 2021

KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

Lol @ people writing incensed screeds about how much they hate 2042

Just stop playing it like close your eyes and walk away hahahahha

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

KrunkMcGrunk posted:

But 2143 doesn't have wide screen support :(

You can change that with some command line editing IIRC, and I think there was a fan patch for BF2/2142 that does that automatically. It’s been so long but I think I used one for an ancient release of Project Reality. Incase you actually wanted to.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Skyarb posted:

They choose a potential cool future setting but it's literally just all modern stuff, only barely future.

It's 20 years in the future. In real-life 2021 we're still using sixty year old B-52s, forty year old F-18s, the same M1A1s we invaded Iraq with thirty years ago, and the same M16s and M4s we had when Reagan was president. How much pew-pew laser do you want added.

EDIT: LOL, current plans are to keep the B-52 in service until 2045. 90 years in service

Rev. Bleech_ fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Nov 30, 2021

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Rev. Bleech_ posted:

It's 20 years in the future. In real-life 2021 we're still using sixty year old B-52s, forty year old F-18s, the same M1A1s we invaded Iraq with thirty years ago, and the same M16s and M4s we had when Reagan was president. How much pew-pew laser do you want added.

I mean at least some of the stuff from BF4 like nightvision and thermal optics, or if they had even an iota of imagination across the entire team, some railguns or interesting deployable robots or just anything other than “half the guns from BF4 but no interesting attachments, but it’s the future so now it’s C5 instead of C4 (but it does the exact same thing)

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

bellows lugosi posted:

once i figured out my performance/packet loss issue (lmao my ram was running single channel and couldn't handle the game) it runs like butter for me and folks, the game is good as hell, just purestrain battlefield.

Popete posted:

Download CPU-Z here and run it, it has a page for memory that will tell you if your RAM is setup for dual or single channel.

Thanks for this, I am apparently an idiot and installed my ram incorrectly several years ago. Swapping to dual channel took my fps from ~10 to ~50. Imagine that.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
My feelings about the game depend on how my last round went.

My last round just now was popping in for a quick round of Breakthrough while on the clock. Despite sustained pressure, the attacking team didn't manage to get out of the A Zone in Orbital. I blew up five vehicles as Sundance using her tracker grenades and the M5 — including a hipfired shot that caught a Nightbird. I also managed some snipes, which is rare for me.

Therefor the game is good.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

I did and, true story, we were playing BF1 Operations last night and me and my squad were holding an objective from what seemed like half the enemy team by ourselves. We had two God-tier support guys who were just hosing them down, a great medic, and me, an idiot Assault guy (who still somehow managed to end up #2 on the scoreboard, lol). Anyway it was just a sustained 5 minutes of malarkey and madness and dying only to respawn and hustle the enemy team off the objectives with explosives and gas and bullets and near the end the Medic says (for the first time ever on mic) "this is fuckin' perfect". I had to agree.

I think it was mostly because the attackers had already used up their behemoth for the round, never really pushed as one with their tanks, and half of them eventually decided to spawn as snipers once there was a single flag left to take but I was in a random Operations game as Defenders on Soissons and we won by holding the very last flag for (what felt like) 10 or 15 minutes. I was constantly switching between using the HMGs in the railcars and repairing/using the field gun (remember when you couldn't repair emplacements in Operations? lmao) just behind them and it was amazing madness. Also one of the few times that an artillery truck was the right choice to spawn for us defenders as well. On the field gun it was a constant war of rotating the shield to block snipers from one side or the other and being able to shoot any tanks/infantry that did break the hill. I probably only ever lasted 15 seconds at most on the HMGs but it was always worth at least 3 kills. Occasionally I ran into the trench to help stop a capture but most of the time whoever was in there was doing a fine job on their own.

Mortar tanks are kind of the bane for defenders on any map though. It never feels good to get randomly bombarded from something basically off map.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



2042 already has magical sci-fi technology

specifically sundance's wingsuit that prevents her from turning into paste when she hits the ground without a parachute

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Do you have to be the squad leader to get the supply drop thing? There aren't ammo boxes anywhere ever and I'm out of wookie balls and rockets for 95% of the match.

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?

fknlo posted:

Do you have to be the squad leader to get the supply drop thing? There aren't ammo boxes anywhere ever and I'm out of wookie balls and rockets for 95% of the match.

The supply drop comes from the specialist Angel so you can always play him an drop your own.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



fknlo posted:

Do you have to be the squad leader to get the supply drop thing? There aren't ammo boxes anywhere ever and I'm out of wookie balls and rockets for 95% of the match.

play as Angel, press 3, right click

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jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

fknlo posted:

Do you have to be the squad leader to get the supply drop thing? There aren't ammo boxes anywhere ever and I'm out of wookie balls and rockets for 95% of the match.

From my limited experience, the "Supply drop available" voice over you get when the Squad Leader and hold Q to bring up the comms menu to select...is just the tablet screen

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