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Sgt. Cosgrove posted:So everyone will have a perk it seems, even in portal. Not sure what's up with recon in bf3 getting extra ammo, i guess to encourage lone wolf sniping? Recons should get a pistol with one bullet, with a unique ADS mechanic that never misses
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Kibayasu posted:I never played WoW but were the ships actually moving or was it a case of the world moving around the ships? That's an old trick to solve the issue of a player character moving on a moving surface. The ships were moving. He's talking about the boats from Booty Bay to Ratchet or Gadgetzan. Lots of PVP on the boats during vanilla and the experience was surprisingly smooth for a 2004 MMO. You can find 10+ year old YouTube compilations of them everywhere.
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Oct 27, 2021 19:43
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The vehicle pool is a terrible idea that fundamentally ruined the relationship players have with vehicles and for that no game past 4 will ever be good until it is gone.
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Oct 27, 2021 19:47
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why is vehicle pool bad compared to spawn camping airfields and driving your tank across the entire map
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Oct 27, 2021 19:52
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In BF4 people just stayed on the map spawn screen mashing the mouse button on the deploy button so it seemed like less of a problem.
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Oct 27, 2021 20:01
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people queuing up in spawn to fight for a chopper or airplane or tank or w/e was really bad gameplay
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Oct 27, 2021 20:02
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It's still astounding to me they haven't just added an queue you can add yourself to for vehicles, so you can just play the game while you wait your turn and you don't have to sit in the loving map window counting timers on vehicles. It would also solve the problem of one dickhead just constantly hogging a fighter/heli the entire game because they have the mental fortitude to sit in the map screen for minutes at a time waiting for vehicles to become available
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Oct 27, 2021 21:10
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's still astounding to me they haven't just added an queue you can add yourself to for vehicles, so you can just play the game while you wait your turn and you don't have to sit in the loving map window counting timers on vehicles. It would also solve the problem of one dickhead just constantly hogging a fighter/heli the entire game because they have the mental fortitude to sit in the map screen for minutes at a time waiting for vehicles to become available That’s something a developer could add when they weren’t reinventing everything in the series every other game.
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's still astounding to me they haven't just added an queue you can add yourself to for vehicles, so you can just play the game while you wait your turn and you don't have to sit in the loving map window counting timers on vehicles. It would also solve the problem of one dickhead just constantly hogging a fighter/heli the entire game because they have the mental fortitude to sit in the map screen for minutes at a time waiting for vehicles to become available Damnit, this is a perfect solution and now im mad that its not in the game. Itd be perfect for 2042 as well. Just pull up the pad and see there are no tanks available, but a button to enter the queue. After a few minutes, the player is notified that the tank is rdy and just needs a spot to be called in. If they dont call it in 20 seconds, then it goes to the next person in queue Deceptively simple and it solves a ton of problems related to vehicle-lords hoggin the vehicles or waiting out of game to spawn in one
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:Damnit, this is a perfect solution and now im mad that its not in the game. Itd be perfect for 2042 as well. This is almost how it worked in Battlefield V. If you called in a Sturmtiger with squad points it would create one you can spawn into at the deploy screen. If you didn't redeploy into the tank within 20-30 seconds, then the spawn would go away and another squad could call in a Sturmtiger. All they would need to do is add a queue at the front for the call-in. Otherwise the loving system is already there DICE.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:26
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getting into the plane first in bf1942-bf3 was actually an artform and i demand it back
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Oct 27, 2021 21:31
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Propaganda Hour posted:All they would need to do is add a queue at the front for the call-in. Otherwise the loving system is already there DICE. But this is DICE we're talking about, that codebase has been scrapped and everyone who worked on BFV has been memory wiped.
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Kibayasu posted:In BF4 people just stayed on the map spawn screen mashing the mouse button on the deploy button so it seemed like less of a problem. You do the same thing in the vehicle pool, except you're not only trying to beat out someone else taking the vehicle you want, you're trying to beat out someone else taking a vehicle that occupies the same pool. I know. I'm a fighter pilot. I only became one cause in BF4 no one wanted to fly the stealth planes, so I did. Now I have to mash deploy so I can get in a fighter before someone else calls a bomber, heavy bomber, or super OP attack plane. The pool system not only introduces a whole slew of balance issues that don't exist when each vehicle has set amounts that can be in game, it also greatly restricts the access to vehicles by non-dedicated players by making sure that everything on the field has the same perceived value. There's never a bunch of assault trucks just laying around for anyone to get in, or a light tank just sitting there cause the tankers won't grab it, there's only ever vehicles that the person in them fought for a slot to get. It takes away so much of the fun of just being able to get in something and use it just to restrict the amount of vehicles on the field. Loosening it up just makes everything worse, too, cause now instead of letting people into light tanks or getting more LAVs around you now have 5 landships or MBTs instead of just 1. It's just a terrible idea all around and I can't figure out why anyone ever thought it'd be good, let alone so good they decided that's the way they're doing spawning from this point forward. Grondoth fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Oct 27, 2021 22:29
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The spawn pool thing was a neat idea but is stupid because of the aforementioned reasons.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:53
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Yeah the fact that it can allow for instances like some idiot running an AA vehicle on a map without any air that then fucks up the balance of the round because you're now down a tank essentially The idiot is me accidentally spawning AA trucks on Amiens 
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Oct 27, 2021 23:10
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Yep, I agree it shouldn't be a shared pool where you pick. They should balance the numbers based on the map. It seems like an easy tweak to the system that was in the beta.
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's still astounding to me they haven't just added an queue you can add yourself to for vehicles, so you can just play the game while you wait your turn and you don't have to sit in the loving map window counting timers on vehicles. It would also solve the problem of one dickhead just constantly hogging a fighter/heli the entire game because they have the mental fortitude to sit in the map screen for minutes at a time waiting for vehicles to become available They'll never implement this. However, if you make it so people with a battle pass get higher priority, then EA would like it.
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DrBox posted:Yep, I agree it shouldn't be a shared pool where you pick. They should balance the numbers based on the map. It seems like an easy tweak to the system that was in the beta. The same system has been in since BF1. It's not going anywhere
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Oct 28, 2021 03:02
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Tis bad
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Fart Car '97 posted:It's still astounding to me they haven't just added an queue you can add yourself to for vehicles, so you can just play the game while you wait your turn and you don't have to sit in the loving map window counting timers on vehicles. It would also solve the problem of one dickhead just constantly hogging a fighter/heli the entire game because they have the mental fortitude to sit in the map screen for minutes at a time waiting for vehicles to become available While I sorta this idea, I also don't like it because people would just constantly cue vehicles because they could. Like sometimes you just wanna chill out and fly transports or drive an apc nonstop and this would be a hindrance to that. Rounds tend to settle into players assuming certain roles for a while until it doesn't become effective and they try something else. The solution presented in the beta of a respawn on the same vehicle class helped to mitigate that already and gave people ample opportunity to try out vehicles. Knowing  if the next cued player was still alive it'd create stupid game breaking bugs where a vehicle becomes unkillable or no vehicles will spawn until the player in question is able to spawn a tank, or that becomes the last vehicle that team would spawn for the rest of the round.
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Patch Notes: -spawning a vehicle in the first 4 minutes causes the vehicle to double in size every second, until it reaches size *maxint* and the server crashes WONTFIX
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Lol, as long as projectile sizes/damage reduces inversely I'd be down af for giant tanks or whatever
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dog nougat posted:While I sorta this idea, I also don't like it because people would just constantly cue vehicles because they could. Like sometimes you just wanna chill out and fly transports or drive an apc nonstop and this would be a hindrance to that. Why should you be the only one who gets to do that if others want to as well? "Sit in the menus hammering m1 until the vehicle becomes available, hoping there isn't another player doing the same thing" is a truly poo poo alternative
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Oct 28, 2021 13:48
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tired: sitting in a menu tapping the vehicle button wired: spawning on the carrier and knowing exactly where to stand and for how logn so when you move slightly to the left the plane spawn is unblocked the exact moment you hit the enter cockpit button
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ethanol posted:tired: sitting in a menu tapping the vehicle button inspired: using explosives to create craters on the runway to troll your own team
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jisforjosh posted:inspired: using explosives to create craters on the runway to troll your own team Retired: stealing your team's plane as recon, using it to get to a spot within sight of the enemies runway and sniping every pilot the moment they get into the fighter on the tarmac 
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Perspired: Baiting an enemy tank player into jumping out to repair, killing him, and just stealing his tank instead.
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Sedisp posted:The same system has been in since BF1. It's not going anywhere Still a poo poo system though
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Perestroika posted:Perspired: Baiting an enemy tank player into jumping out to repair, killing him, and just stealing his tank instead. One time in BF3, i was ambushed by a tank in Siene Crossing. Since i was a medic and had no other options, i ran straight at the tank like i had c4 or something on me. To my complete surprise, the bluff worked and the tank backed up... right into the canal and exploded
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For all the crap I give BFV, I did quite enjoy shoving mines on enemy tank (yes, ON the tank), taking out my pistol, shooting the mines to destroy it. They rarely expected it and was slightly faster than the dynamite, would not recommend doing this but definitely worth it as a ''I'm gonna get killed so I might as well go for it'' tactic. The United States posted:BFV also had the lunge mine, aka suicide on a stick Not gonna lie, using the lunge mine on infantry is a power move. Bonby fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 15:19
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BFV also had the lunge mine, aka suicide on a stick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu3AJ1bISoI Should have been more powerful though, even if it killed you
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Oct 28, 2021 15:29
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another unwatchable video that looks like they are playing the game through a peephole
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Born in Bexhill posted:another unwatchable video that looks like they are playing the game through a peephole More peephole FOV but the best melee weapon in BF1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xfBlCT9DZg
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A new gameplay trailer showing 3 new maps! https://youtu.be/dmgZLe4r9b0
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DrBox posted:A new gameplay trailer showing 3 new maps! At least 2 different game builds shown in that video for some reason
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DrBox posted:A new gameplay trailer showing 3 new maps! That Antarctica map looks like a lot of fun.
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DrBox posted:A new gameplay trailer showing 3 new maps! Looks sick!
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Everything looks so busy. The lens flair, the snow gusting, the environment, tracers. No wonder they added these detection perks.
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D-Pad posted:That Antarctica map looks like a lot of fun. Yeah, looks fun af. Reminds me a bit of that ice map from bf4. That deployable cover also looks pretty cool. Gettin excited to play this!
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jisforjosh posted:At least 2 different game builds shown in that video for some reason "You go to editing with the videos you have, not the videos you might want" -Game developer Donnie Rumsfeld
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