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Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

Who the gently caress plays battlefield for the campaign

Seriously this. I'd take bots over yet another garbage campaign any day.

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Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Popete posted:

Without a campaign mode how will I have context for why hundreds of people are fighting on top of a skyscraper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVESMxs4rbA

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

The United States posted:

Remember EA Link? EA Downloader? EA Download Manager?

That's ok, neither does EA.

Can't wait for the first Battlefield in ages to have solo bots but also always online that'll lock you out when EA pulls the plug. I mean hopefully not, but lol

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Watching that Jackfrags video on making your own game modes just has me unreasonably excited for this. I don't think I've actually been this excited for a game in a decade. The bots just make it seem like an actual sequel for BF2 that I've waited for so long.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

vehicle entry animations are still there, its just that the camera goes to the vehicle immediately while the soldier climbs in

test seems fun so far, AI is kinda crazy. I was on the roof of a building shooting down at soldiers and one AI flanked me with a grapple hook while another threw a perfect grenade up there and killed me. Then he grappled up to the roof himself and killed my teammate

another time I was running down a tunnel and turned a corner right into an AI. The AI then did a slide to dodge my bullets and headshotted me effortlessly

Game feels like a proper successor to BF4 and Im excited to see how it all turns out

oh my

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
I'm enjoying all the hyperbole when I'm just happy to have bot support again after 15 years.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
The Xbox version seems to be playable for some reason. Lot of people posting on r/battlefield2042 about being able to launch the game. Or I don't know, might just be people leaking footage of a press copy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BF-wYShO5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeo-tsCmMpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EU19x_47ms


https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/aaronfrogy/videos

Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 6, 2021

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

lol at people on Reddit acting like they're not going to immediately figure out the Most Optimal Gun for each weapon class and then use nothing but that. Every FPS has like 50 guns that nobody ever uses except as a joke or when there's some specific challenge for it.

Yeah, I like the idea of a lot of guns but reality for me in any game is that my stupid min max brain forces me to obsess over the stats and feel until I settle on the "best" gun and use that for 90% of the time.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Yami Fenrir posted:

Uhm did you read this thread at all?

Because I don't think you're bursting anyone's bubble, people have been nonstop doomsaying in here.

:thejoke:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Press dump is live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdChc4BkTFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6EKjcXwS0A

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Portal is looking legit great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OVTBWVCJq4

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

i predict six months before dice realizes the only thing people actually play is portal and shift all their dev resources to that axe it

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
It was a hassle since the servers are getting hammered but I managed to host my own portal stuff testing out BF3 and BC2 against bots. It really is stupid how you can't just local host a single player session to do anything. It's always online all the time. This is why I'm pretty resigned to the fact that this is just a limited lease to play until they gently caress you over by shutting down the servers in an X amount of years.

That said, performance was good on 5600X / 3080. It defaulted to ultra and Arica Harbor was hovering around 100fps 1440p never going under 90fps and some times well over 110fps. Hitching and stuttering when ADS for some reason. Game looks very pretty.

Bots seem fine. They hover inbetween very stupid and very deadly so hard to tell from a normal experience. Except you don't have to worry about ping, lag or hackers (in the future, not now obviously)

Land of contrasts, I'm having fun.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
So 2042 AOW can be played against bots solo locally with progression and that's awesome. Having fun.

Portal can not. That's pretty drat dumb. I only get "Global game quota exceeded" when I try to play Portal by myself and browser is 90% XP farms

lmao

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxNOhyoJ03I

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Battlefield 2042: Global Game Quota Exceeded

Meanwhile in the Portal browser



Sure would be nice to locally host my own portal games.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
So I was finally able to host my own Portal session (Battle Of The Bulge 1942) and I noticed that I no longer see XP next to kills.

So they fixed bot farms with removing progression from bots? Haven't finished the game yet so I'm not sure if they just removed the message or actually nuked progression for solo portal.

lmao

edit. finished round and saw that I got XP so either I did something (don't think so?), the XP indication is bugged or they removed it from showing.

Anyway, holy poo poo I love this 1942 remake. It's so simple with the original classes and guns but looks awesome. The Ardennes looks so nice and feels like those Battle Of The Bulge episodes in Band Of Brothers

Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Nov 13, 2021

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1459317828545298437

No, I was right, they did disable XP for Portal.

Just lol, it's incredible how they make it not only possible to XP farm with ease (I mean whatever, I personally don't care) but then make it so that the limited server space has to be shared between anyone who just wants to play the drat game.

And then they immediately go nuclear on it. Just setting themselves up for failure.

Trying to host a portal game is still rear end. Maybe slightly less wait time when spamming the start button.

Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Nov 13, 2021

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Frog Act posted:

I think it’s only for portal games via server browser because I got to level 10 yesterday only playing portal as the base game is inaccessible

I only host my own Portal games and didn't get any ribbons. I only got the match reward. I also had normal XP progression yesterday. Close to lvl 8 now and mostly Portal.


In other news, had some incredibly gnarly rubber banding and laggy tank turret control while playing solo AOW. :pwn: Can I seriously lag in my own session or is the engine just being wonky?

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Rusty posted:

$90 is a lot just play a week early, but the game is fun for me, so whatever

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
The "boot back to menu" after game is seriously the dumbest poo poo. Just joined a portal game that was just ending and goot booted straight back to the menu. Just why.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

hello internet posted:

How the gently caress do people fly helicopters so smoothly with mouse and keyboard? My brain can’t wrap itself around flying these things. Are the controls really that awful or am I an idiot?

The defaults are pretty terrible and I found no way to change the mouse controls so I'm out of helicopters until I learn how to use the menus to rebind mouse left/right to yaw or they fix the menus. It felt like rebinding mouse movement was just broken.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
I'm pretty turned off on the game right now.

I love the bots and they're easily worth it for my dumbass but I can't host my own portal games unless I spam "host" for five minutes anytime I want to play something. So basically no tinkering or finetuning game modes live because you always lose your spot when you leave. It's incredibly how they didn't think of even allowing solo vanilla Portal game modes (like AOW) just so I can always start a fresh game anytime I wanted. I know they'll probably fix it with more server allocation or something else but I don't think holding my breath and gambling 90 bucks for that is any smarter than preordering games in general.

Playing normal Portal is good and fun but I feel like I might as well be back playing either BF4 or BF1 and the 2042 side is so broken and I don't really care for the specialists that I'm just contemplating refunding. I like it but DICE.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

toiletbrush posted:

So how do bots work in this game? It it like Unreal Tournament back in the day when you could just create a local game against bots and customise it how you want? Or is that only available for certain game modes?

The 2042 All-Out-War Solo/Coop is pretty much just click and play which is great. You can only choose bot difficulty (3 modes), game mode (Conquest or Breakthrough) and map (only 2042).

Then there is Portal where the only way I got bots was through customizing a game through portal.battlefield.com and then hosting your own experience. You can customize almost anything there. No local games, only hosting on EA servers which are just hammered with what I'm guessing a lot of empty bespoke game modes that are only being played by their own creators. So I basically get to compete for server space for a single player experience which is just :discourse:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

jisforjosh posted:

They'll probably just make it so Portal gives regular XP but only if it's one of their "curated" experiences

This is pretty much what they're already doing. They could probably make the bot XP linear to how much health and equipment they have and the based on the global damage multiplier etc but :dice:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

lmao yeah, definitely requesting a refund multiple times until it goes through. From what I gathered, they've pretty much nuked Solo progression to the point bots don't count as kills after the first (few?) unlock(s) per weapon so the advertised solo progression stops almost immediately. Only thing you can get from bots now is XP and levels.

If they're this behind, I doubt the solo progression and Portal XP stuff gets addressed in a while if ever in a satisfactory manner.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Rusty posted:

That stuff was turned off without a patch so they could change it again whenever but why are people caring so much about progression?

Absolutely they can but I'm not holding my breath.

If you're primarily a solo bot player, you'll be locked out of most the content like weapon attachments. This wouldn't be a big deal for me personally if they didn't explicitly advertise that.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Got the refund on Steam. They auto reject normal refund requests if you have over two hours (I had 12) so you have to do an "I have a question" ticket where you ask for a refund. The 2 hour thing only counts after actual release date.

Honestly it's a shame because I really enjoyed the bots and I'm sure they'll get around to fixing most of the stuff that bothered me but I'm honestly not hopeful on them not permanently weaseling somehow out of their full solo progression promises since they went so scorched earth on bot farms immediately. Gotta sell those XP boosts somehow.

I'll probably repurchase at a discount later.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

KrunkMcGrunk posted:

That's wasn't obvious already?

It's no accident the game went live without basic poo poo like voice comms and a scoreboard.

It apparently wasn't a year ago when Cyberpunk did it multiple times :v:

But seriously, yeah it's a strong hint at big trouble.

Mega Comrade posted:

Haha you knew it was coming



21% now :regd08:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
I'm really happy with just playing Solo with bots since it's just a very casual shooting, no pressure or paranoia about getting run over by hovercrafts or dominated by airlords and most of all no real lag or hitching or whatever anymore.

Multiplayer on the other hand is completely hit or miss right now with performance. The start of the match is just the worst and I still get intermittent performance issues.

Tested out the PP-29 finally and what the gently caress. How did they gently caress up the other guns so badly and why does the fix take this long when they can just take the shield offline at the press of a button.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Raine posted:

hey reddit says solo progression is back for attachments and vehicle upgrades

Confirmed.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Descar posted:

Have they said anything about adding the single player progression back?

Nope, but it's back.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Mr. Crow posted:

What sort of nerd plays multiplayer games by themselves :confused:

:colbert:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Hmm...you could just create a huge AI farm and just spot and use intel ribbons for major XP or will that not generate too?

But I'll have to give it a try later for the weapon unlocks.

No, it's pretty much capped. It seems like you can play with normal XP in solo for like 20-30k every 24 hours and after that it tells you that the cap has been reached and like only a 10th of your actions count towards your XP. No ribbons.

At least kills count now for attachments etc.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

jisforjosh posted:

So the reason helicopters behave so weird near the ground, causing you to have much harder touchdowns that normal and more difficulty having ascend counter inertia (besides the bs built in auto level) is that gravity isn't a universal value for infantry and vehicles. It's more of magnetic field on the bottom of both air and ground vehicles.

https://i.imgur.com/DiCL3is.mp4

lmao amazing :discourse:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

DrBox posted:

I'm just checking out some of the guns that aren't viable yet in MP in solo. If you want a fast (cheesy) way to level guns I've found you can play solo Breakthrough on Kaleidoscope and quickly cap the first two sectors then spend 15-20 minutes on the roof mowing down bots. Just take the south elevator to the roof and run around quick to the south edge with lots of cover. Put down a spawn beacon and use Angel so you can keep giving yourself ammo. I've gotten ~500 kills in two rounds with the AC42.

This is a good tip. Cuts down on the slog in getting some attachments definitely. Reddit's already yelling about this map being impossible in MP so get it while it's hot before they move the last cap off the roof.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

DrBox posted:

The current vehicle spawn system could use tweaks for sure, but play BF3 for a while to be reminded of how dumb the "spawn and try to race your teammates to the vehicles" is. I was ahead of a guy going for the chopper so he pulled out an RPG and blew it up before I could get it.

Yet another beautiful 20 year old Battlefield tradition that the evil devs took away.

Perestroika posted:

Yeah, solo mode is pretty good for unlocking the first few attack helicopter unlocks, since it's pretty difficult to actually get kills as the pilots with the default rockets. Note that you can also hop into the gunner seat while in flight and generally have enough time for couple of kills before having to switch back.

The seat switch almost feels OP because I have a distant memory of choppers in older games almost instantly taking crazy dives if you switched seats (to use the TV missile). Here it just gently glides the way you were going giving you ample time to snipe with the turret.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

Skyarb posted:

https://youtu.be/WOY7zZjvtNc

This could be cool for everyone wanting a battlefield type experience.

I checked this out a month ago and people seemed to be pissed how dead / abandoned this was. Has something changed?

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
Update #2 has dropped. I like how the ingame notification keeps telling me to restart game even though Steam already installed it.

edit. AK does seem to feel better. Happy about that.

edit 2. And I immediately got a cool bug I hadn't encountered before. Spawned into a vehicle, jumped out right next to enemy and Mouse 1 didn't work. :dice:

OK, I think I understand what happened. I spawned into a MAV, spammed exit vehicle, accidentally started entering again, got into the animation to enter but got out before the animation could finish, died, spawned again and everything was bugged. Randomly reload animations didn't play, reviving either showed the progress circle but no animation or vice versa without me having to hold the interact key. All animations got bugged because I managed to leave the vehicle before the enter animation played completely.

Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Nov 25, 2021

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Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013
The PP-29 has insane vertical recoil and spread now lmao

Still completely fine close quarters but it won't be winning DMR battles now.

In fact it makes a lot of sense now to use a compensator and the standard ammo. Still shreds close quarters.

Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Nov 25, 2021

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