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Since most of the parts I want are out of stock this season I was thinking of just buying the parts I know I can get like a case then fill in the rest as needed. Is the Fractal Torrent still regarded as the case for a super quiet fan set up? I hate noisy computers and I don't want to do water cooled.
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TheFluff posted:Do you mean like an entire computer from scratch like we do these days? Because expansion cards were a huge thing in the early 80's and there was an attempt by IEEE to formally standardize the ISA bus around 1985, which kinda indicates to me that it was in widespread use at the time. Still, most computers were sold as complete systems in those days. I think IBM PC compatibles with things like standardized interfaces and motherboard sizes etc got started pretty early on in the mid to late 80's, but the ball really started rolling with the 386 and 486 around 1990. At that point you could definitely assemble a computer from parts if you wanted to, but judging from some 1992 catalogs and brochures I've had passed down to from my dad, at that time the focus was still mostly on selling components for upgrading existing systems rather than building them from scratch. expansion cards of all description, drives, and ram upgrades had basically the kind of hobbyist market support we see today right from the jump because much of that infrastructure was already in place to service the cornucopia of home computers that existed before, it took a while longer for motherboards, cases and power supplies to be separated out from each other because what would you put one in without the other two? Nobody had old parts to recycle yet. Reverse engineered BIOSes were available pretty quick, Compaq was famously first out the gate in late 82, a few other OEMs made the investment and used it in their own products but the floodgates for compatible clones opened in 84 with PhoenixBIOS and AMI shortly after selling those chips to anyone with a pulse. In 1984-86 If you had a line to someone that would sell you PC compatible motherboards you were making up a dumb name for your computer company, slamming a white box system around it and buying an ad in the back of computer shopper. Around 87 is when you start to see standalone motherboards become available once the industry standardized around the AT form factor, there could finally be confidence all the screws and pinouts would line up. Still kind of a niche thing until the early 90s, you were most likely DIYing a build because you wanted a frankly unreasonable number of ISA slots, drive headers, or both.
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Anyone have a clue with Thermalrights naming schemes? PCpartspicker linked some fans but I think they may have been older? I just cancelled and changed to the -S variant as it was cheaper and instock to come soon. Thermalright TL-M12W: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0CPSDJM6G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1 https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-m12w/ Thermalright TL-M12W-S https://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-TL-M12W-S-1500RPM-Cooling-Desktop/dp/B0CSM2HXL3 https://www.thermalright.com/product/tl-m12w-s/ Even the specs are the same... code:
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Is the decibel rating for CPU coolers found in any scientific way or are people just guessing?
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Yak Shaves Dot Com posted:Is the decibel rating for CPU coolers found in any scientific way or are people just guessing? Decibels are just a measurement, and all you need to measure it is the right tool, which isn't too expensive (half-decent ones that cover most of the audible spectrum start at a few hundred dollars). Now, whether people measure in a standardized, controlled manner, that depends on who's doing it. There is no shared standard between manufacturers, so any decibel measurement you see from a manufacturer can't be used to compare against other manufacturers' products. One might be measuring from an inch away, six inches away, three feet away, with the fan/cooler inside a case or outside in the open, with different measuring devices and in rooms with different sound floors. Reviewers who review these products should be doing so in a controlled, scientific manner. Maybe not all do so, but the biggest names do—Gamers Nexus, Hardware Canucks, Kitguru, TechPowerUp, Tom's Hardware, etc. You can't compare these reviewers' numbers against each other, but they should be capable of producing accurate general rankings. Of them, Gamers Nexus is probably going the furthest in their quest for accuracy. They've built an expensive soundproof room and designed a consistent and highly repeatable methodology. I don't put much stock into what manufacturers say about their coolers, but I will trust GN when they say X cooler is the quietest (or cools the best when normalized to a specific noise level). Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Dec 4, 2024 |
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Broke down and grabbed a K70 max on bf, set up the led to a solid red (who the gently caress finds the default acit trip pattern even remotely usable?), and now the leds on my mobo never turn off unless I physically turn off the psu. It's a bug that icue has had for over a decade?
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As long as you have a giant chunk of mass and a properly configured fan curve, it’s pretty hard to go wrong. Pick any of the coolers that are sort of on the top end of a trusted reviewer site and then focus on the following things: Does it have any clearance issues with your case or motherboard or ram heat spreaders Does it suck to install? Is the fan attachment horrible to work with when it’s installed if they need to be RMAed? Do you like how it looks?
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I see, gotta click through on the ratings. Is the rpm range meaningful? I can guess a high max rpm means faster cooling, but is there any reason to prefer something that has a high end and low end rpm listed vs only the max? Or vice versa? Do they all operate on a range and sometimes no one is measuring it in detail? Also, no reason not to just get the highest wattage and efficiency rating for my PSU? The price range is pretty narrow between high wattage and low wattage if you're only picking among the high efficiency units. The extra wattage won't turn into waste heat if it's a high efficiency model? Sorry for peppering the thread with small questions, I think I just had an epiphany on why my old PC is so annoying to use and I want to pull the trigger on a new one before the buying frenzy wrecks things.
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Hasselblad posted:Broke down and grabbed a K70 max on bf, set up the led to a solid red (who the gently caress finds the default acit trip pattern even remotely usable?), and now the leds on my mobo never turn off unless I physically turn off the psu. In your bios settings, there’s typically a mode called like stealth or something like that where the LEDs will not come on until software tells them to come on Basically just hop into your bios and look for LED options in the search area As for the acid trip pattern: you can set the “device memory mode”, which means you can basically get rid of the acid trip pattern to make it do whatever you want when the software is not running. I wouldn’t be surprised if the default behavior programmed into the device memory mode is simply useful for the factory to make sure the product going out isn’t defective 😂
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Yak Shaves Dot Com posted:I see, gotta click through on the ratings. Is the rpm range meaningful? I can guess a high max rpm means faster cooling, but is there any reason to prefer something that has a high end and low end rpm listed vs only the max? Or vice versa? Do they all operate on a range and sometimes no one is measuring it in detail? In the bios of basically every decent motherboard, there is a place for you to completely customize the fan curve of the CPU cooler fan based on CPU temperature. Some even have a “fan delay” setting where it will wait X seconds before revving up in case it’s just a tiny spike that will go away on its own. First you wanna figure out what a good quiet setting is for idle temperatures something like 25% to 35% fans speed for any CPU temperature that’s below 50 - 60 degrees Celsius. Then you wanna max out the fan speed around 80 to 85° depending on how ridiculous the fans are and what kind of temperatures you get in Cinebench. Once you have that dialed in, you won’t see temperatures that high under typical usage anyway.
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Any suggested Mobo to go with a new 9800x3D? I have that and a new 4k/240Hz monitor coming in about a week and I know gently caress all about how to understand the current slate of boards out other than "the x870e line is way overpriced." I have a bunch of SSDs with several using sata, a 3080 I'll likely upgrade when the new 5000s come out, and I use a bunch of USB ports for various poo poo. Could also use a RAM and PSU suggestion to pair with it as well - I've read "don't bother" with 8000 speed sticks and stick to 6000 low latency, and I assume an 850w PSU will be all I need but who knows with how power hungry GPUs are getting. Summary: Used mainly for gaming and some data set visualizations. In US. No microcenter near me. 4k/240Hz ultrawide (I know there is no way to reach this). Budget is whatever. I don't need a $700 mobo just to flex though. I have a giant tower case, an Enthoo Pro if my memory is correct. I'm open to replacing that if there's a significant reason to.
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spunkshui posted:In your bios settings, there’s typically a mode called like stealth or something like that where the LEDs will not come on until software tells them to come on Yeah, I have to get in there and check when I have a chance. It's just bizarre that the k70 &/or icue causes it, when it has been an annoyance for so long (judging by internet rants I've found about it) I do look forward to tinkering to set up the half/full press stuff, and edit the leds for wasd alternate colors and such.
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Parallelwoody posted:Any suggested Mobo to go with a new 9800x3D? I have that and a new 4k/240Hz monitor coming in about a week and I know gently caress all about how to understand the current slate of boards out other than "the x870e line is way overpriced." I have a bunch of SSDs with several using sata, a 3080 I'll likely upgrade when the new 5000s come out, and I use a bunch of USB ports for various poo poo. Could also use a RAM and PSU suggestion to pair with it as well - I've read "don't bother" with 8000 speed sticks and stick to 6000 low latency, and I assume an 850w PSU will be all I need but who knows with how power hungry GPUs are getting. Isn't the x870e basically upgraded usbs to a version that isn't commonly in use yet?
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So, I finally got my new PC set up, and in the process of testing the extraneous motherboard, I decided to pinch pennies and use the very, very viscous Thermalright paste instead of the nicer stuff I'd bought for the build. I tried really hard to spread it well, but it was miserably stiff, and I must not have put enough on the corners of the AM5 heat spreader, because this is what my PA 140 coldplate looked like after I cleaned it off (pardon the potato phone, it won't focus on shiny things so I had to do it manually): https://imgur.com/To3Txas Is this somewhat expected or did I (and/or Thermalright) gently caress up? All I did was very gently shimmy the heatsink into position and carefully screw it down. Yes, I adjusted the screws about 3/4 turn each back and forth. The scratches seemed superficial, and mostly overlapping the 'legs' of the AM5 head spreader, but I'm pissed and concussed so I'm not sure if I screwed something up, or this is normal, or what. The heat spreader is pristine, with nary a scratch or scuff. I haven't had time to check temps seriously, but with a 7600X3D in the new motherboard with the new paste and an even more careful application/alignment, BIOS sits at 33-36C, memtest86 spikes to 75C but backs down to 68C after the fans ramp up, then rapidly down to ~45C during the rest of the test. Idle temps in Windows while typing this are around 41C. Does this sound reasonable for a PA120/140 running at ~30% fan speeds? E: Prime95 full torture for 30 minutes is hovering around 60C with fans only at 1100-1200RPM. That seems a bit high for a 6-core CPU, but really don't know anything about AM4/AM5 thermal performance outside of, like, case or cooler benchmark numbers in delta-over-ambient. TremorX posted:Regarding PSUs from earlier -- I have an MSI MPG 1000w that has the 12VHPWR adapter and cable, and use it with a 4090. I've had zero issues, and I periodically check the connector temps and nothing has been out of the ordinary. I feel a lot more comfortable using this than Cthulhu's' dongle that comes with the GPU. Unless someone knows something I don't or Steve discovers MSI uses baby blood in their solder tomorrow, the MSI PSUs seems fairly solid. MSI's PSUs seem OK enough, but they have a pretty significant drawback, especially if you don't overspec: https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2337/#section-noise Totally fine* at 600w, but screaming banshee at 900w. Don't get a 750w if you plan to put a 4090 on it. *A PSU that emits >6dBa in semi-passive mode may have a coil whine that some people are sensitive to. Cybenetics' graphs don't always match up 100% with the dBa values on the charts below, so it's hard to say what's going on there. Edit: Vintersorg posted:I thought I was doing the right thing but getting conflicting information on supported RAM. I have that exact RAM, it's a good cheap Hynix A kit that will pretty much EXPO to 6000 CL30 on anything. It's not on the QVL for my board (Gigabyte x870 Aorus Elite) while that CL38 kit and a CL34 7200 kit are, and it worked great with no tweaking, like 5 seconds of memory training time per boot. Highly recommend. Edit 2: Yak Shaves Dot Com posted:I see, gotta click through on the ratings. Is the rpm range meaningful? I can guess a high max rpm means faster cooling, but is there any reason to prefer something that has a high end and low end rpm listed vs only the max? Or vice versa? Do they all operate on a range and sometimes no one is measuring it in detail? The real answer here is that buying a power supply is as complicated as your requirements for it. If you want something quiet, efficient, and long-lasting, you'll probably have to pay a lot or wade through a lot of Cybenetics reports, or both. If you just want one with a 5-year warranty that's not too loud, you can either overspec within a cheaper line with a semi-passive mode where you'll never be above the 60-70% load mark where the fan kicks in hard (like the above MSI MPG 1000), or you can buy a 750-850w of the mid-range lines known a bit more for keeping their fan noise in check, e.g. Be Quiet! Pure Power. My memory's shot right now, so that's all I've got off the top of my head, but you can look PSUs up on Cybenetics if you want to see how loud they are or how they perform. mikey fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Dec 4, 2024 |
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I'm thinking about buying this PC to replace my aging 8700k, are there any red flags on this build? I'm going to be swapping my existing 3060ti in place of the 7600 and putting the 7600 in my old PC that I'm selling to my brother. Just gaming use, I don't stream or anything. 16GB seems on the low end, but looking at the RAM usage of my games, even Stalker 2, I'm not really going about 6-7gb. https://www.microcenter.com/product/684525/powerspec-g520-gaming-pc
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The RAM is on the low end capacity-wise, yes, but I'm sure MC will be happy to sell you a 32GB kit.  Otherwise, it's Fine with all the usual prebuilt caveats (the warranty will be shorter, you're getting a mystery power supply, the cooler shown is pretty inadequate, etc).
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Is that good or bad? I haven't built a PC in like 8 years. I think the last one I used was an EVGA or Rosewill or something, I don't know many of the brands. I tried building a PC with similar specs except 32GB because that was the bundle for mobo/cpu/ram at Microcenter and it ended up being like 200 more.
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I'd say it's fine. I had a powerspec 850w gold in my system for three years and then upgraded it. No issues with it at all.
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mikey posted:So, I finally got my new PC set up, and in the process of testing the extraneous motherboard, I decided to pinch pennies and use the very, very viscous Thermalright paste instead of the nicer stuff I'd bought for the build. I tried really hard to spread it well, but it was miserably stiff, and I must not have put enough on the corners of the AM5 heat spreader, because this is what my PA 140 coldplate looked like after I cleaned it off (pardon the potato phone, it won't focus on shiny things so I had to do it manually): https://imgur.com/To3Txas The coldplate seems fine, I wouldn't stress too much about some scuffs - the thermal paste will fill in the gaps if necessary. All those temperatures are both totally expected for those workloads on that chip and well below any concern. X3Ds from that generation tend to idle a little warm, and AM5 CPUs like to ramp up until they're either out of power draw or out of thermal headroom (around 90c). If it's sitting pretty in the sixties under benchmark loads that means the cooler is doing it's job and the chip is happy.
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I'm starting to put together a new system for my kid to take to college. It'll probably be used mostly for gaming, though it doesn't have to be super top-end or anything, but decent performance preferred. We already have a decent 1440p monitor so that's what we're targeting. We can take our time making it but I'm thinking of getting some parts now before potential problems come January. I've always made ATX-sized systems in the past but this time thinking about a smaller form-factor to make it easier to transport. Looks like micro-ATX is the cheapest/easiest to get parts for? Any gotchas? Also thinking of AMD for CPU and GPU, since that seems to be where the best price/performance is at the moment, and that's new to me. Is there a handy summary of the differences between the X/B/A whatever motherboard chipsets? Looks like B650 is the most available in microATX, any problem with them? Also there's a chance they may take their Valve Index with them - do AMD GPUs still have problems with VR, or is that a solved issue nowadays?
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Hobnob posted:I'm starting to put together a new system for my kid to take to college. It'll probably be used mostly for gaming, though it doesn't have to be super top-end or anything, but decent performance preferred. We already have a decent 1440p monitor so that's what we're targeting. We can take our time making it but I'm thinking of getting some parts now before potential problems come January. mATX is fine. Few people need more than one PCIe slot these days and most people don't have more than one or two M.2 SSD's either, and those two things are pretty much what you give up with mATX. If you want an mATX case though you should carefully check the size restrictions for both CPU coolers and GPU size (both number of slots and overall length of the card). I don't really know of any really good mATX cases off the top of my head though. I think there are probably more ITX cases, but ITX cases are all over the place and come in an absolutely wild number of varieties, many of which are so small they're pretty hard to build in and you really need to be careful in finding one where the parts you want will fit. As for motherboards, B650 is what you want for AM5 and B550 for AM4, it's the best price to functionality tradeoff. The X-boards tend to be pretty overpriced, X870 and X870E in particular are very overpriced and don't really offer much in terms of actual functionality. You might get an extra M.2 SSD slot or two and USB4, that's pretty much it. If this is mid-range build you should consider the 5700X3D, it's on an older platform but for gaming the price to performance is unbeatable right now. AM5 doesn't really have any good value gaming CPU's right now. Check the last few pages of the thread and you'll find a lot of talk about mid-range gaming builds using the 5700X3D.
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TheFluff posted:mATX is fine. Few people need more than one PCIe slot these days and most people don't have more than one or two M.2 SSD's either, and those two things are pretty much what you give up with mATX. If you want an mATX case though you should carefully check the size restrictions for both CPU coolers and GPU size (both number of slots and overall length of the card). I don't really know of any really good mATX cases off the top of my head though. I think there are probably more ITX cases, but ITX cases are all over the place and come in an absolutely wild number of varieties, many of which are so small they're pretty hard to build in and you really need to be careful in finding one where the parts you want will fit. If OP is close to a microcenter, any reason not to go with this one for a mid-range? I was looking at it when I was planning on upgrading my PC rather than buying a new one, seems like the 7600X3D would be better than the 5700X3D and the bundle makes the whole thing cost like $100 more than the processor by itself. https://www.microcenter.com/product...er-build-bundle
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22 Eargesplitten posted:If OP is close to a microcenter, any reason not to go with this one for a mid-range? I was looking at it when I was planning on upgrading my PC rather than buying a new one, seems like the 7600X3D would be better than the 5700X3D and the bundle makes the whole thing cost like $100 more than the processor by itself. https://www.microcenter.com/product...er-build-bundle I'm in the EU, I can't see that page. Microcenter doesn't want to deal with GDPR compliance, I guess. e: if it's a 7600X3D bundle though and it's cheap, yeah sure go for it, it's pretty much just better than the 5700X3D. Not by a huge margin but it's there. I kinda forgot the 7600X3D existed tbh because it's Microcenter-only. I think it launched at like $300 and at that price it's not worth it over the 5700X3D which is now around $200, but if you get a deal on a bundle then that could be a different story. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 4, 2024 |
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It's $400 for the 7600X3D, an unspecified B650 motherboard (I'm guessing it depends on what's on the shelf) and 32GB DDR5-6000mhz. It seems like some newer games really want the higher RAM speed so that seems like a reason to get the 7600X3D over the older generation with DDR4.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:It's $400 for the 7600X3D, an unspecified B650 motherboard (I'm guessing it depends on what's on the shelf) and 32GB DDR5-6000mhz. It seems like some newer games really want the higher RAM speed so that seems like a reason to get the 7600X3D over the older generation with DDR4. That's a good deal yeah. It's about the same price as a 5700X3D, a motherboard and 32GB of DDR4-3600 ($200 for the CPU, $140 for the motherboard and $60 for the RAM), and the 7600X3D performs a bit better than the 5700X3D. Go for it, unless you have specific things you need from the motherboard. IIRC RAM speed matters a bit less for X3D CPU's because of the big cache but I don't remember where I heard that. Still, the 7600X3D is just better so no reason not to go for it.
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spunkshui posted:All News This is hilarious. GN really got to them, huh? Good loving call. I hope Steve still rakes them over the coals when they fail to follow through. The prices are still criminal.
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The potential of the 3060ti I'm currently on and going down to 16GB holding me back has me pricing out a build. It seems like the 7700xt would be a decent upgrade from the benchmarks I'm seeing, and I think that it's the 8gb of VRAM holding me back. The build is on Microcenter's site rather than PCPartPicker because every time I looked to compare anything expensive on pcpartpicker Microcenter ended up being cheaper. Basically I'm trying to get back to a mid-high range build specifically for gaming without spending extra on luxury stuff like watercooling or lots of RGB. Am I missing anything that's going to bite me in the rear end or overpaying for something? https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=c4ed2112-ebdb-4412-8ded-0676ad027d41 CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 7600X3D Raphael AM5 4.1GHz 6-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included $399.99 (bundle with Mobo and RAM) Motherboard: ASUS - B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL36 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5 - Black GPU: PowerColor - AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT Hellhound Overclocked Triple Fan 12GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card $359.99 SSD: SK Hynix - Gold P31 1TB 128L 3D TLC NAND Flash PCIe Gen 3 x4 NVMe M.2 Internal SSD (this would actually be going into the old PC that I'm selling to my brother so I can put the SSDs from this computer into the new one) $61.99 Case: Thermaltake - Ceres 300 TG ARGB Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case - Black $79.99 Power Supply: PowerSpec - 750W Power Supply 80 Plus Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $79.99 Heatsink: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 CPU Air Cooler - Black (I swear this model is old enough to drink by now) $29.99 Total: $949.95 The case already comes with a few fans and room for more, I figure if I start to have thermal problems I'll buy a few more fans but I won't know until I get to that point.
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DoombatINC posted:The coldplate seems fine, I wouldn't stress too much about some scuffs - the thermal paste will fill in the gaps if necessary. Thanks, that takes a load off my mind - my last new PC build was around 11 years ago, and I guess CPU temps have increased a lot since then. I knew about the X3D insulating silicon thing, but didn't connect the dots between that and the higher idle temps. 22 Eargesplitten posted:The potential of the 3060ti I'm currently on and going down to 16GB holding me back has me pricing out a build. It seems like the 7700xt would be a decent upgrade from the benchmarks I'm seeing, and I think that it's the 8gb of VRAM holding me back. The build is on Microcenter's site rather than PCPartPicker because every time I looked to compare anything expensive on pcpartpicker Microcenter ended up being cheaper. Basically I'm trying to get back to a mid-high range build specifically for gaming without spending extra on luxury stuff like watercooling or lots of RGB. Am I missing anything that's going to bite me in the rear end or overpaying for something? That seems like a great price for that GPU, the cheapest one on PCPartPicker right now is $390. If you care about noise, you probably want a better CPU cooler than that even for a 7600X3D, and especially at that price. Most of the Thermalright Peerless Assassin/Phantom Spirit line cost around $5-8 more, and will be significantly cooler and quieter. Amazon's had some availability issues with them in the last few weeks, but you should be able to find at least one type because they make like 10 of them and they're all similar and a huge step up from a small single tower. Edit: Absolutely every good Thermalright cooler is sold out right now. Sorry, I guess this is currently useless advice! I don't know anything specifically about PowerSpec PSUs, but most of MicroCenter's own stuff is decently-built, and it has a 5-year warranty. I wouldn't expect it to be silent, though. No info on Cybenetics for any of their PSUs. mikey fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Dec 5, 2024 |
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