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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Yes, and then they sent replacements to press that were well made and then sent a different, less well made replacement to actual customers.

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Nike realised ages ago if you keep replacing popular shoes that people will buy more of a new shoe at once if they like them out of fear that they’ll never get restocked without warning.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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I had a laugh when they first announced that but also man, they're really testing how much their rabid fanbase will take huh. Like if quiet is what's really important other companies have been making giant heatsinks with ultra quiet fans for years.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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VelociBacon posted:

I think every single Mac laptop does this.

Current ones not so much, I think the current Macbook Pro won’t even spin up its fans until it’s approaching the thermal limit and even then loses basically nothing. The current air does though since it doesn’t have a fan at all.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Isn’t the Shield basically a more powerful Steam Link that can run some games natively?

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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It started to jump up a bit when chia was announced but it doesn’t seem to have spiked the same way GPUs have. The only things I’ve seen get noticeably harder to find are high capacity HDDs, SSD prices don’t seem to have moved much.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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User Benchmark is the site that has a notorious hate boner for AMD right?

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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You don't need an SSD heatsink, especially since most motherboards now will have one built in.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Bios flashing nowadays is extremely easy, you put a zip file on a USB stick, plug it into the motherboard with nothing else but power connected and press the button on the back. That said I expect most B-550 motherboards at this point should have the Zen 3 bios installed already.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Hiraeth posted:

I'm genuinely curious. Is there just, like, no such thing as gaming prebuilts that resemble spaceships anymore? It feels like non-RGB computers is a bigger niche than it ever was

Maybe not prebuilt, but weird cases are still very much a thing. Here's Gamers Nexus reviewing a straight up spaceship case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP4kABsIzuE

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Not unless you're doing some serious production work I think.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Assuming Overwatch 2 ever comes out.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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I have a Fiio M3 Pro DAP that functions as a DAC when plugged into the PC, basically any decent dedicated music player will function as an external sound card these days. Not enough of a reason to get one if you don't already have need/want of one but it's a nice bonus for sure.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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That’s the SATA version though, NVMe (at least on Newegg) is $250 for 2tb as opposed to $240 for a pair of 1tb.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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incogneato posted:

I just replaced my motherboard, CPU, and ram. As anticipated, Windows is not too happy about that and says it needs to be activated. I bought this key over a decade ago and seem to have lost it along the way--plus I think it was probably an OEM Windows 7 copy (later upgraded to 10 pro).

My question: Can I just buy a new Windows 10 Pro key from Lodge North in SA Mart and punch that key in? The Activate page in Settings has the option to "Change product key", where it will let me just type in a key. I assume I could just use a new key in there. Or will my system get mad if it receives anything other than the original key used?

If you're on Windows 10 and did the upgrade from a previous version of Windows you should just be recognised as activated from your Microsoft account. Sometimes it does take a little while to recognise though, my last reinstall was bugging me about activation until about an hour after the install when it finally ticked over to activated.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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I’d assume they have some specific need that requires 2 optical drives and already have 2 they want to keep using.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Yeah that's actually super useful thinking about it, since a lot of drive caddys on cases end up too close together for it to be a nightmare getting the second connector on a power or SATA cable to contort and fit it.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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mom and dad fight a lot posted:

You were not kidding. I'm falling down a pretty deep rabbit hole. :sweatdrop:

Massive fan of the 5.25" bay computer.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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LGR did a video some years ago about a 5.25” bay with a cup holder and cigarette lighter.
https://youtu.be/_ErL39wqO-c

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

How does this prebuilt look? I know it doesn’t come with an SSD, but I have an SSD already form my current desktop that I could add:

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/9pv7

Be aware with Dell prebuilts that they use a load of proprietary non-standard parts. So there's no guarantee that you will actually be able to put that SSD into that extremely custom case. Gamers Nexus have a review of the Aurora coming up fairly soon so if you can wait I'd wait and see what the actual inside of that thing looks like (but in their pre-review bits they've already referred to it as a hotbox so it's probably not great). The specs are alright though, even if a gaming focused prebuilt not coming with an SSD is laughable in 2021.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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They've also reviewed Dell OEM graphics cards that are terrible (though their 3090 is apparently excellent), so it's not even a guarantee that the 3060 is going to be worth transplanting.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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At this point it should have an up to date bios, if not you at least know what to do if it doesn't work.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Listerine posted:

I have a similar question to this- I was thinking of building a workstation around a threadripper 3960x; are there any new processor lines coming out in the near future that's worth waiting for? I'm not in a particular rush.

The rumours are around that the Ryzen 5000 series threadrippers are imminent, so might be worth waiting there in case those are worth an upgrade or if the 3000 ones get cheaper.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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The 1070 is still a perfectly fine card for right now, so don't feel in any rush to upgrade that if it's working fine. Just ask the usual questions about why you're after a workstation CPU like a 5900, if you're just planning on playing games on the thing you could save money to funnel into a better GPU down the road by sticking to the 5600X and a B550 motherboard.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Depends on the emulator and how it's written I think, but people have gotten PS3 emulation working on far weaker CPUs than any of the 5000 series Ryzens.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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You can probably get by in that case by finding an old ThinkCentre on Ebay and just cleaning it up. People use those as emulation boxes (all the way back to the 4th gen Intel Core stuff) a lot. Else for an entirely new build you're probably not going to need a GPU at all and can just grab an Intel CPU from a few gens back with integrated graphics.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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ANIME AKBAR posted:

Hi thread, I'm looking to buy a prebuilt for both work and gaming. My current system is mainly bottlenecked by the CPU (i5-6600k), especially for work stuff, and I don't see a viable upgrade path that doesn't require a new mobo. I'd like to keep overall cost at $2500 USD max, including software (win10 pro upgrade, MS office, RAM upgrades, etc). I'm looking at this system right now:
Skytech Chronos Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.60GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 3000, 1TB NVMe Gen 4, 750W Gold PSU, 240MM AIO, 11AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit

Couple questions before I pull the trigger:
1. Reinstalling the OS to clear all the bloatware sounds like a good plan. But it's been about a decade since I had to do a clean install, and that was with an installation disc. But I doubt you get any install media when buying a system like this nowadays. So how is a clean reinstall supposed to work?

You download the Windows 10 installation media tool from the Microsoft website, then use that to create a bootable USB drive. It's actually very simple, just remember to disconnect any drives that aren't the installation drive or you'll end up having headaches later on if you need to change out a drive. All the license stuff is handled through your Microsoft account, so once you log into that during installation it should automatically figure out if you have a license and all it'll do if you don't is bug you to register every so often.

njsykora fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jul 23, 2021

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Now the Ryzen 5600G is available for custom builds the better option might just be to use the iGPU from that as a stopgap. It’s not great but it’s going to be cheaper than finding an old GPU.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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I used an AMD cooler for years and it'll do the job just fine, but the bequiet cooler I have now is (unsurprisingly) way quieter. Plus coolers really aren't that expensive so it's worth spending the extra $20-50 just to not have an audible drone coming from your machine at all times.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Yeah that’s still way too much to pay for a 500gb SSD.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Takes No Damage posted:

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Heh, I recently stumbled across an archive of old CD ROM ISOs and at least half of them are 90s/early 2000s porn. I downloaded a few (for research purposes only) and even on a modern system you can barely see what's happening, actual postage stamp resolutions. Amazing what the human mind can become nostalgic for...

When LGR did a video on the Monorail a while back the one he had was absolutely rammed with early internet porn.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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PageMaster posted:

What's the best way to get OEM windows? Are codes on ebay trustworthy?

Lodge North's thread in SA Mart, plenty of people in here have gotten keys from them.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Oh one thing about installing Windows if you haven't done it in a while, unplug any drives that aren't the drive you're installing Windows to or it'll put OS hooks on them and make it a nightmare if you want to replace the drive later.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Assuming it's not your 970 failing you could just build the system aside from the GPU and keep using that, its still a fairly useable card.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Might be worth asking the NAS thread as well.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Checking the cable is definitely required though, I left a power cable dangling in my GPU fan once.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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I would say hold off on the GPU to be honest, that's nearly £200 over RRP for the 3060Ti and you're going to see better results dropping one of those memory kits and using the money instead to bump up the other kit to 3600 CL16 and using the R9 until you can get a 3070. If you're not doing workstation stuff there isn't much reason right now to get 32gb right out the gate and you can always add it later if you find yourself needing it.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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CoolCab posted:

don't pay 1600 quid for that. here

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ryzen-3600-5600x-rtx3070-3070ti-1tb-16gb-gaming-systems-ps116098-at-awd-it-3781527

that's got a 3070ti for cheaper, although you'll probably want to upgrade some bits and pieces (PSU and ram at least) and buy your storage separately.

you want the most GPU you can afford for games, it will have a considerably more significant impact and probably requiring upgrading before anything else in there. you have a CPU task so it's not wasted but for games that's the logic.

Actually yeah that's better, would take some tweaking to get to the same specs (wouldn't necessarily need to buy the storage seperately, the SN550 is an option as is a WD HDD) but would still come out cheaper than building it yourself. Would still be good to replace the PSU though.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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Worth noting with the AWD prebuilt they have the 1tb SN550 as a £60 upgrade option right now (marked as a sale price), which is going to be cheaper than you could find it separate.

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

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VR's mostly a GPU thing, but yes the 5600x will be a fine CPU to pair to your 1070. My PC now is a 3600/2060S and not much in the VR world even makes it sweat beyond the more demanding sim stuff.

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