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unseat and reseat the ram, selectively boot with different ram stick configurations, clear CMOS (either via a jumper or with a battery pull your mobo manual will have the advice). check connections. I'm sure you've done most or all of these but they sometimes do the trick. so you have another video card to test? even an old one
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Jul 20, 2021 14:01
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huh that was the model someone in here was thinking about buying? looks like our concerns about the cooling were well founded.
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Jul 20, 2021 20:46
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Boba Pearl posted:Can a 1070 even run anything these days? as above it will destroy 1080p 60fps, the most standard monitor specs. for 900 dollars a modern 70 series card is right out. if you were in the UK I'd straight up point to something like this https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/as...aign=2021-07-22 then give them poo poo to upgrade for birthdays or whatever like more memory, I think that's around 900 dollars. a 1660ti is not as good as a 1070 afaik, so that's the kind of range you're looking at.
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Jul 22, 2021 16:27
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huh, I stand corrected. dang then that deal is better than I thought, ima go vote it hot.
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Jul 22, 2021 16:36
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if you are shopping on a performance/dollar ratio buy one of the cheap new Xboxes, although no idea if that will work with a 1440x900 monitor. you can put together a pretty compelling machine hell, probably using an IGPU with those targets. and a 2600 isn't top of the line but it's absolutely fine for your targets.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:02
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you will never beat the consoles at or near launch on a price/performance ratio, they went shopping for more or less the same components you did and they're typically sold at a loss, outside of Nintendo. they make it back through game licencing, ongoing subscription fees and accessories. this might change in a few years as technology marches on, it usually do es, but that's absolutely true right now.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:07
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I would say it's trending in a positive direction, but I wouldn't call it "normal" or "good", just "better". I legit don't know how stable the improvement is either although I am cautiously optimistic.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:12
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yeah windows has gotten waaaaaaay better at reinstalling it's almost painless. and if it happens when you don't have install media any windows 10 pc can do it and it comes with the majority of the relevant updates that copy of win 10 had which is a huge timesaver. ANIME ACKBAR: that's not a terrible deal but it's more than i would spend on a 3070 and 3700X; i'm in the UK but I could find some closer to 1836 with straight currency conversion, although the storage is a little worse. for gaming the CPU is overkill and a 5600X would do better (better single core performance and 6 is enough cores basically) but it's far from awful and if you have a productivity role it could be justified. 16 is the sweet spot for gaming, adding another kit is as easy as buying the same kind of ram and popping them in there and turning the XMP on again.
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Jul 23, 2021 12:22
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OC is just an out of the box overclock (which most will be entirely capable of regardless). ygou can turn it down/off if you're concerned about thermals. at 1440p i would probably suggest a 3070, but a 3060ti will be fine - it, the 3070 and 3070ti are all pretty close in terms of performance.
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Jul 23, 2021 21:19
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i think they're all based on the same original die, or something? like i know the 3060ti is a "cut down" 3070 but i don't really understand it, conceptually. long story short they are very similar, and i don't even think the delta between the 3060ti and 3070ti is all that big? generally the 3060ti is considered the better price/performance option but if it's in budget i think a 3070ti for 80 euros is a trade i would take personally. ymmv.
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Jul 24, 2021 11:06
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so, ARGB is definitely considered more valuable. I have an older/cheaper case which was just RGB instead of ARGB, and while I can set it to any of 30 or so custom colours/animations by cycling through clicking the reset button they're all pretty simple, (primary colours, shifting primary colours, breathing shifting primary colours, etc). Ideal if your design objective is "eerie green" or "Red alert" or something. ARGB can be addressed by the motherboard, and like the good doctor puts it there are a mess of competing standards (ASUS Aura is one I think?), both in terms of the hardware connection i believe and DEFINITELY software which is a PITA. however, after the effort obviously you can change them in Windows instead of a hardware button but also could potentially be set for something functional like thermal monitoring ("hey, GPU, I want to know when you cross 80 and way more importantly 90, so can you change to yellow and red respectively when that happens?") or something fun like an audio visualizer, coordinated animation of all the components or even music visualization. Gigantic pain in the rear end to set up tho.
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Jul 25, 2021 11:20
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this was posted in the youtube thread but i feel like it would strike a particular chord here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR25BVBsuS0 so in a sense it's just another "dell is a horrifying ordeal" video, but there's a particular sensation you get if you see what's coming. a real "oh nooooooo". i recommend it.
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Jul 27, 2021 03:59
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Yeah, a lot of mistakes were made, but you shouldn't need to have any knowledge of how computers work on a hardware level to buy and use one from Dell. The guy just needed some guidance, and Dell was not giving him any at any stage of the process. And in the end, he did build and set up his own PC with the help of friends. i found it particularly interesting because it goes into the psychology of how dell gets away with it. if you don't know anything about the industry, entirely justifiably, we all start ignorant and if you stuck my rear end in the Boat Building Megathread you can bet i'd be calling the stern the starboard or whatever that would send sailors reeling, then "dell" is your term for "computer". people assume, entirely naturally, that price and performance are correlated and that a premium price product will have sensible design choices. the language we use about it is extremely confusing (he fucks up describing "solid state" as a hard drive even in the final video so his comprehension still isn't 100% even though i'm sure it's been explained correctly, poo poo is not intuitive) and made much moreso via deliberate marketing obscurification. but, more importantly, this is only part 1. they rely on the psychology as he outlines - they're entirely happy saying "oh so sorry sir it looks like you hosed up and bought some magic beans! have a nice day." when they're ultimately at fault, leaving the customer feeling foolish and too ashamed to ask for help. they drag it out as long as is possible to enhance the sensation and demoralize, have operators well trained in playing you and loving you over, kafkaesque technical and warranty support to infuriate and drive you away. someone like you or i see this and correctly go "holy poo poo what a scam" but if you don't know what you're doing, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, their business is more or less the shady used car sales of the industry.
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Jul 27, 2021 14:43
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I - hrm, could use some help actually. Kind of a weird one. You know how a few months back I was talking about upgrading my storage with a few TB of SATA? a cludge fix I did a year ago has come to bite me in the rear end, lol. when I was installing my NVME SSD (not the SN550 but a very similar crucial equivalent) I could never get the bios to see the NVME. which made no sense at all because windows could see, allocate to, and eventually install on it, but I could never get the bios to boot to it. it shows up in the bios as a boot override option but the m.2 slot in Asus’s bios software was always listed as empty. eventually I just set it up to an old sata SSD with a long dead and broken OEM windows install as the first boot device. windows tries to boot, fails immediately, I get the prompt to select another drive within windows which can see the NVME drive, literally adds one second to the boot time if I hit “enter”. I more or less immediately forgot I did this because it was working, and to be totally honest the above is kind of blurry and guesswork. well, you’ll never guess what happened when I pulled the old OEM SSD because I am out of slots. I can get into the bios just fine but I get a “Reboot and Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key” when windows tries to launch in a plain command prompt font, I doubt windows is managing to even a little boot. Is there something obvious I could have done wrong and how can I fix it?
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Jul 27, 2021 19:22
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thanks for the response! well, i haven't been able to update the bios yet (version is like 2019 so it needs doing) but i've hosed around with an absolute ton of the settings. i only got the UEFI Windows fast boot option when the old OEM drive was attached - fortunately it works via a USB interface too although this is a cludge on top of a cludge. absolutely no combination of settings I could find, switching between legacy and UEFI mode, loving around with the boot priority, csm, etc would let the machine see the relevant windows boot drive on the NVME SSD. it could see there was a drive attached but never see the relevant contents? never got the UEFI fast boot option while the old SSD was unattached. lets see if a bios update helps at all.
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Jul 27, 2021 20:55
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hrm. update, counter to my expectation the system immediately hard crashes when the USB SSD is removed (which i found out when the cheap enclosure i was using crashed) and it lists in windows as being "in use" and cannot be ejected. what the loving gently caress lol
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Jul 28, 2021 01:22
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plenty of SIs build with non-proprietary parts, where they’re selling labour, a support package/software suite and a warranty and can maybe still offer a little volume discount (less since that’s where their profit comes from). a lot of modularity too with good SIs, I could buy my 3300X, normally unavailable outside of OEMs, because CCL sell CPU+ram+mobo kits preassembled and with a warranty as if it was a prebuilt. just like used cars it’s a hugely predatory industry if you’re not fortunate enough to be informed.
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Jul 28, 2021 02:19
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the pc version focuses on a ton of co op content, too. me and my friend group tend to go from game to game pretty often and it sucks to have to wait for it to go on super sale or eat the cost of the game x 6 or w/e. a subscription makes perfect sense for us, we wouldn’t have played deep rock galactic without it and that game owns. app sucks rear end mind.
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Jul 29, 2021 15:57
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very similar to netflix really
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Jul 29, 2021 16:48
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you could buy a secondhand 970, they've cooled in price a bit. you'll still be CPU bound but it will make a big difference. what's your power supply in your current case like?
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Jul 29, 2021 18:29
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is 2100 finish dollars or 2100 american? cause you can get a very good prebuild if you shop around for over two grand, i'd have to politely disagree. you might be marked up a little but nowhere in the same galaxy as much as buying the component separately.
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Jul 30, 2021 19:43
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yes it is still totally loving mad this is still true. if you can get a card at MSRP or even more ideally a FE card you'd be able to put together a price competitive build no problem, that one component will bottleneck your entire friggin budget. go for a reputable prebuild maker, trust idk do they have trustpilot or something in finland? some place with great reviews for service and bring whatever you find here, we'll happily tell you if it's good.
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Jul 30, 2021 20:13
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i got a 3070 and a 3300x and at 1440p it works extremely good. a 5600X build will most likely comfortably futureproof you for at least one GPU upgrade and will be very good if you have any productivity role for it.
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Armauk posted:I need a gut check on my setup: so, when we talk about "bottleneck" it's kind of deceptive. it makes it sound like there is one static neck of a bottle and if you throw X GPU at it and Y CPU you can calculate the bottleneck lickety split. that's kind of an oversimplification and one of the reasons those bottleneck calculators aren't very well thought of - it is a moving target within a specific game let alone any between titles. over the course of playing a game the bottleneck will shift between a CPU and a GPU heavy load even depending on things so abstract as "how many physics objects do I need to calculate right now" or "how often do I need to reflect a ray of light for this frame", etc. and as you've somewhat picked up on one of the quickest ways to shift a bottleneck to the GPU is upping the resolution - that's SUPER GPU intensive. so a 3700X will be fine to great almost all of the time. at 1440p or higher the difference is miniscule, and only when the game swings to more CPU heavy tasks do you get that .1% low that many reviewers are testing - .1% of the time the CPU was bottlenecking you. it's not the top of the line right now with the 5000 series out, and those have something of a performance advantage - counterintuitively the most important quality for gaming (generally! big asterix! some games use more CPU and some use more GPU!) is single core performance, so you could probably drop down to a 3600X and get similar performance or upgrade to a 5600X, six core twelve threads, and get something better for gaming. worse for productivity, mind, that's where those cores will come in handy.
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one of the tech youtubers i follow has bad things to say about EVGA power supplies idk how accurate that is. i feel like a hundred bucks for a bronze power supply isn't great? maybe a regional thing again.
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tarbrush posted:Can anyone recommend a "how to build your pc" video? I've got all my components out and suddenly have the yips. when i was building i liked this one, because anthony was using ultracheap components like i was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiIW0Twj3U there's also a decent first person build guide on the channel if you find that easier e: skip to like a minute fifty to avoid the dumb youtuber stuff
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legit, if you've not bought other parts go for a prebuild. it's still the only vaguely "affordable" way people can buy GPUs. tons of people are stuck trying to upgrade an existing machine or with parts, if you shop around the prebuild space you can get sane adjacent prices (although it will depend on your region). thus far in 2021 at least the best piece of advice in the pc building megathread remains "for the love of god don't".
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yeah legit, going via gamers nexus is a great way to find a good prebuild, they do much more intensive testing, particularly of thermals. any prebuild you post in here we will be more than happy to comment on the spec or identify any red flags but if you're just looking for a good purchase you could do waaaaaaay worse than that.
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I suggested "PC Building Megathread: For The Love Of God, Don't" but abandon all hope won out, lol.
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Seyser Koze posted:Looked at the prices on IBuyPower and at this point I think I'm just going to wait until I win the NewEgg lottery (any day now) and build around that. That or I just can't do math. those are kind of higher end, shop around for a promo- if you're in the UK region i could make some recommendations. newegg shuffle is possible, there are discords that do stock alerts and there seem to have been a lot of hits recently in the GPU thread anyway, you'll probably get better answers there.
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scan.co.uk has been having the best availability and is the only FE partner. overclockers and ccl have been intermittently opening preorders. join a stock discord or telegram and good hunting. do you want prebuilds?
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tarbrush posted:No to prebuilds thanks. Can you recommend any stock discords? ask in the GPU thread, i've been out of the space for months now
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a 2060 is a little better than a 1660 super too, right?
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dlss might make a non-trivial advantage in some titles, particularly if you go prebuilt -> 1440p monitor -> new gpu. you're going to be severely gpu bound and i suspect you'll need every ounce of oomph you could get. still going to have to be pretty brutal on the settings in many titles though.
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PittTheElder posted:
nah, not really. they were for a minute but it's totally manageable. so raw gigahertz is kind of deceptive in CPU shopping these days, different chips have different qualities (IPC is one, instructions per clock, no idea how that works) that make that number less important. the typical enthusiast recommendation is actually AMD these days - they've beaten intel in price/performance for awhile and are doing better in straight performance, too. this is very different than a decade ago! the quick and dirty route to ryzen is a B550 motherboard with whatever features you like, a 5600X and at least 16 gigs of at least 3000 mhz ideally 3600 ram. i think you can clear that for under 1000 Canadian, or if you don't mind last gen either a 3600 or possibly the intel equivalant six core are good.
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the RGB eagle knows why you turned him on and objects.
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with SSDs you don't need to "mount them properly" or "utilize the features of the product you paid for". what you think the pc building police is going to come for you? you are an adult and that means whatever it is you want it to mean. don't let metal bits touch the motherboard and keep the wires out of the fans and it'll all be okay.
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do you have a non gaming, productivity related reason for eight cores? for gaming and other single core stuff a 5600x is faster and iirc cheaper and thermals are always a pain in the rear end for a SFX case. I imagine the 3060 is a space choice? if it isn't I'd trade that CPU down a little and get a 3060ti is you can. you can go cheaper on the drive with an extremely marginal real world impact, something like an SN550 is the common reccomended choice. you can get a winders key for much cheaper than that on SA mart.
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I feel like 700 bucks is a lot for a 3060 too although I'm not clear if you've already pulled the trigger on that. something like this deal: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/aw...aign=2021-08-18 (UK obviously just for comparison) with 60 pound ram upgrade is going to perform much better in gaming scenarios except VRAM bound ones and maaaaybe some high frame rate 1080. the jump from 60->60ti is one of the sharpest this gen by a lot of reviewers telling.
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