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an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014



https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1405315918037766149?s=20

Oh god, Jesse's going down the SomethingAwful hole, yet has no idea how deep it goes. It's a fascinating part of Internet Lore, because almost everything about internet culture traces back to that site.

Here's the thing: Harambe is kinda-sorta a FYAD thing (while the subforum's theoretically called "gently caress You And Die", they always called it "FYAD"), but there's way more going on.

See, one thing you may not know is that the term "shitposting" comes from SA, and it originally referred to low-effort posts that didn't obey SA's then-restrictive rules on spelling, grammar, and content. You could get banned for comma-splicing at one point. And re-subbing cost ten bucks a throw.

So there were a few subforums that were escape valves that let you shitpost, and FYAD was the first. Since SA was originally a comedy site, FYAD became the place where shitposting became a form of ironic comedy, where you were trying to show off how clever you were by ironically posting like some kind of 12-year-old forum-addicted idiot. The people who were best at this became Weird Twitter, since it lent itself to Twitter's character limit. The rhythm and style of Weird Twitter is basically a direct copy from the FYAD of years ago.

But it wasn't the only forum like that. One other one was called "Laissez's Faire", and it's arguably even more important. See, it started off as a containment zone for Internet Libertarians, but since shitposting was allowed there, it quickly got taken over by leftists on SA who were mocking the living poo poo out of the libertarians. The libertarians got the hint and left, and LF ended up being a no-holds-barred leftist forum where anything goes.

As they'd chased out all the right-wingers and centristsincluding the forum admins, who'd declared it a containment zone and washed their hands of itthey ended up doing what internet leftists usually do, which is compete to see who's the bigger leftist. Originally it was a kind of ironic Maoism, but over time it transformed into a more sincere Marxism which became more and more extreme as time went on. And thanks to a massive influx of users from Tumblrthe circumstances of which are so completely loving bizarre that it'd take an age to explainthey adopted that site's then-idiosyncratic politics regarding identity, gender, and mental health.

Like with all these insular communities, they just became more and more extreme as time went on. They became notorious for raiding and brigading other forums and websites for being right-wing, except by this point their own views were so extreme that they'd be attacking squishy liberals for being Fascist Enablers. And, naturally, racists and sexists and bigots and homophobes and whatever else they could think up. God forbid you'd ever even suggest that they might have personal issues or mental health issues, too.

(Sound familiar?)

Eventually the forum was shut down. Why, you might ask? Because at least one of these Internet Marxists was making death threats towards President Obama and the site admins were visited by the loving FBI. The admins understandably said "gently caress this and gently caress you", shut down LF, and basically kicked all of them out.

But LF didn't disappear. LF metastasized. They made a bunch of different offsites where they screamed at each other and called each other entryists, counterrevolutionaries and (naturally) all manner of bigots. They notoriously raided and brigaded other sites, and were quite happy to doxx whoever was deemed "counterrevolutionary." Some of the offsites failed, some limped on (like the infamous Rhizzone), but most of the users eventually noticed that all the FYADsters had gone to Twitter and decided to follow them there. They became the core of Leftist Twitter.

Maybe you were wondering why Twitter didn't just have a lot of shitposting, but a lot of leftist shitposting? And maybe you were wondering why Twitter seems to have such bizarre politics, and made a political shift in the early 2010s that came out of nowhere? (It's blamed on Gamergate, but it predates Gamergate by years.) Maybe you're wondering "okay, why did everybody seem to shift from a sort of left-liberalism in the 2000s to pretending that their favorite book is Capital III?"

Laissez's. loving. Faire.

(Oh, and also both 4chan and Gamergate started on SomethingAwful, but that's a whole other loving conversation. So is the site's ongoing issue with pedophile admins, mods, and high-profile users.)

(And so is the fact that the very first "Bernie Bro" was apparently a SomethingAwful all-star named, uh, "Taintrunner". He slept on Jude Sady Doyle's couch because he was homeless. It apparently...didn't go well. It went so Not Well that it's the reason why Doyle hates Bernie supporters. No, really. )

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012


More like BARFod

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021



gas

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



Atty+friendly RINO. Polls, politics, postpunk. Cohost of
@Political_Beats
at
@NRO
. Dedicated to you, but you weren't listening.


lol

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


FYADsters

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1405319060208996355

lol

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Jacking Out; Jacking In



bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


Lots of people crawling out of the woodwork in the replies to say that they were a member of the forums then and got run out after a gif of Stone Cold Steve Austin got posted in a thread about a hot dog vendor, ruining the forums forever

DOMELORD420
Dec 28, 2000



viewing the world through posting cliques on various Enemy forums is really healthy

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


DOMELORD420 posted:

viewing the world through posting cliques on various Enemy forums is really healthy

No 'yad ever called me a twatwaffle

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Feel It


a yad regular once called me a pig fucker while teaching me the word loupe and not long after that it came up as an answer in the NYT crossword so I owe em one

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

lol... the ty peppar saga from 11 years ago... i... honestly think fyad bullied him to suicide via wikipedia edits....

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Lots of people crawling out of the woodwork in the replies to say that they were a member of the forums then and got run out after a gif of Stone Cold Steve Austin got posted in a thread about a hot dog vendor, ruining the forums forever

lmao

bleeding kansas
Nov 15, 2019

wheres hunter??

https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1405319073362219016?s=20

its gonna get funnier

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Lots of people crawling out of the woodwork in the replies to say that they were a member of the forums then and got run out after a gif of Stone Cold Steve Austin got posted in a thread about a hot dog vendor, ruining the forums forever
Lots of the replies have a "posted on at least one non-LF-based offsite" vibe.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Have you heard the good word?


Harambe is kinda-sorta a FYAD thing

Anime Bernie Bro
Feb 4, 2020

FUCK MY ASSHOLE, LOL


DOMELORD420 posted:

viewing the world through posting cliques on various Enemy forums is really healthy

my ideology at any given time is literally nothing more than the exact opposite of whoever the last person to ban me was

edit: to be fair, i think you're really missing how truly terminally online mainstream politics has become.

as much as i despise that glowy gently caress gregg housh and his gently caress-buddy kirtaner, they really did understand how things were gonna operate in the 21st century before anyone else did

Anime Bernie Bro has issued a correction as of 04:00 on Jun 17, 2021

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011




lf bringing the mao in lmao, even in death

bleeding kansas
Nov 15, 2019

wheres hunter??

dead gay comedy forums posted:

lf bringing the mao in lmao, even in death

its some c-tier fyad poster with a podcast at NRO thats gonna bring the laffs

this guy lol https://nypost.com/2017/07/27/why-arcade-fire-is-the-most-important-band-in-north-america/

bleeding kansas has issued a correction as of 04:05 on Jun 17, 2021

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011




arcade fire isn't bad at all but come the fuuuck on my dude jeffrey not jefe

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004





I fuckin love SA Lore

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007



the mythology around lf being SJW ground zero always makes me smile

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

bedpan won this avatar. If you see this text, reply, `fuck you, bedpan, you stupid piece of shit.`

fake and gay

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007



i have heard the term weird twitter used 4000 times since 2015 and it still has no definition. hell, gently caress it. im part of weird cspam

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007




lol

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



Farm Frenzy posted:

the mythology around lf being SJW ground zero always makes me smile

It was more revolutionary than C-SPAM is and had people calling Obama a sellout before he was even nominated, who claims that it was an SJW hotbed and not an actual socialist hotbed?

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007



yeah, all the good posters left SA for twitter. anyway thats why im still here.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



Homeless Friend posted:

i have heard the term weird twitter used 4000 times since 2015 and it still has no definition. hell, gently caress it. im part of weird cspam

if you have to claim to be part of it, you are clearly not part of it

Virtual Russian
Sep 14, 2008


Maximo Roboto posted:

It was more revolutionary than C-SPAM is and had people calling Obama a sellout before he was even nominated, who claims that it was an SJW hotbed and not an actual socialist hotbed?

folks that weren't there?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012



Virtual Russian posted:

folks that weren't there?

Yeah but who are these folks even. Who is talking about LF aside from this thread and the Twitter thread posted today

I'm just surprised that there's even false narratives out there about the forum when it's been gone for so long that only the people who were there are the ones to ever bring it up

Anime Bernie Bro
Feb 4, 2020

FUCK MY ASSHOLE, LOL


Farm Frenzy posted:

the mythology around lf being SJW ground zero always makes me smile

it makes sense when you believe "the more SJW something is, the more left-wing it is" (4chan refugees)

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008



Maximo Roboto posted:

Atty+friendly RINO. Polls, politics, postpunk. Cohost of
@Political_Beats
at
@NRO
. Dedicated to you, but you weren't listening.


lol

jesus christ that is DIRE

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


pyf/old gbs style "oookay, sit down and listen motherfuckers" posting ftw

Victory Position
Mar 15, 2004







bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Lots of people crawling out of the woodwork in the replies to say that they were a member of the forums then and got run out after a gif of Stone Cold Steve Austin got posted in a thread about a hot dog vendor, ruining the forums forever

I would have sworn there were more Let's Play people

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

exmarx posted:

pyf/old gbs style "oookay, sit down and listen motherfuckers" posting ftw
time for some post theory!

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


exmarx posted:

pyf/old gbs style "oookay, sit down and listen motherfuckers" posting ftw

I'm going to use compound swears and post an epic bacon recipe for you bitchnuggets

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011



DOMELORD420 posted:

viewing the world through posting cliques on various Enemy forums is really healthy

I mean just in the past few years someone posted so hard on twitter they made him president

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an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014



still think about this freddie post a lot

https://twitter.com/htmlmencken/status/1071218160425152513?s=20
https://twitter.com/htmlmencken/status/1071218759736721409

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