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The Management posted:there’s a huge chip shortage and nobody can get high end CPUs or any GPUs. manufacturers are back-ordered for months. the price of PC hardware is going up. expect most organizations to hold on to their existing machines for an extra year or two if they can. pushing hardware upgrades now would be incredibly stupid. The cpu list includes celeron N5100 and N4500 which is what runs every poo poo tier notebook and desktop you find in your electronics store in plentiful supply. The shortages are there only if you want mid to high tier stuff.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:yeah, quite possibly. another guess is that windows 11 is in practice a feature checkbox in windows 10, i.e. that both are the tip of windows source control and will get the exact same updates etc. so windows 10 can live alongside windows 11 at no additional work forever, and the distinction is mostly to drive these kinds of hardware changes.
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mystes posted:Windows 11 effectively just being a different windows 10 sku would be pretty weird although I guess there's no reason it couldn't be. If so I wish they would make it clear. if this guess is correct i think the confusion is kind of the point. apply some pressure on people to upgrade and get on the preferred hardware etc., while just having it just be a sku (thanks for reminding me of the term i was fumbling for) internally so it doesn't *actually* cause any fragmentation headaches
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If they are really just trying to announce that they're deprecating support in windows 10 for older machines in 5 years, I guess it would be sort of mildly clever for them to instead try to spin this as announcing "windows 11" which only supports newer machines but is actually just the same thing as windows 10, allowing them to kill "windows 10" later but keep supporting "windows 11." However, they still screwed up the announcement of windows 11 by causing confusion about the hardware requirements. They announced it in a way where people thought everyone would be able to upgrade and only then realized that their computer might not support it. Also, if windows 11 was purely a feature flag I think people would know that already, and if it's not, I suspect that even if it's built from the same source it will probably be more effort to maintain both versions. mystes fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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the announcement has been a mess in general yeah, and it may be a mistake to then expect some kind of underlying logic to what they are doing. either way it is pretty much pure speculation, we'll see whether 10 and 11 wind up getting largely one-to-one 6-month updates down the line, right up to the eol of 10.
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with the appstore push it would be odd to have the two be coequals unless someone just managed to bake in mstfs normal success with app stores into the lifecycle and none of the senior management has noticed
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Lol so Windows 11 won't work on my 2017 ThinkPad with 64 gigs of ram because it is a 7th gen Intel? you brought this on yourself by buying such a ridiculous laptop
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SlowBloke posted:same boat, i7-6700 with 32gigs which is not in the spec sheets while a shittastic n3050 with 4gigs is so 🤷♂️ you too
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should have gotten the final good computer ever made, the 2015 macbook pro it will even run macos 12 long before windows 11 is even released so it will still be 1 better
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r u ready to WALK posted:should have gotten the final good computer ever made, the 2015 macbook pro I have one of these and it struggles with stuff like youtube now lol
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akadajet posted:I have one of these and it struggles with stuff like youtube now lol define struggles, honestly? i use a 2012 mbp as my normal everyday computer and while i'm not about to suggest it's blazing fast, it definitely doesn't struggle with youtube
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mediaphage posted:define struggles, honestly? i use a 2012 mbp as my normal everyday computer and while i'm not about to suggest it's blazing fast, it definitely doesn't struggle with youtube Iris pro + retina display probably. Trying to drive anything at native resolution it doesn't have hardware support for is going to make it chug. Other than that it's probably fine.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Iris pro + retina display probably. Trying to drive anything at native resolution it doesn't have hardware support for is going to make it chug. Other than that it's probably fine. what browser are you using
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Gentle Autist posted:you brought this on yourself by buying such a ridiculous laptop It came with 16gb. I was able to upgrade it to 64gb for a mere $180 a few months ago because it's not a piece of poo poo MacBook with soldered RAM. hth
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r u ready to WALK posted:Windows 12 will go full linux and look like this im the recording of a german oprah or whatever
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tfwi just found out my 1 yr old Mobo and processor doesn't have tpm 2.0. no centered start menu for me ): maybe it has it but it isn't enabled??? Idk how computer works
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akadajet posted:well, that was boring. thanks op!
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mediaphage posted:what browser are you using
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:It came with 16gb. I was able to upgrade it to 64gb for a mere $180 a few months ago because it's not a piece of poo poo MacBook with soldered RAM. hth seems pretty future proofed
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:tfwi just found out my 1 yr old Mobo and processor doesn't have tpm 2.0. no centered start menu for me ): you prob need to enable it in bios. i had to, and now the tool says i can get windows 11. looking forward to installing a fresh operations system update!
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Jun 28, 2021 20:40
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I dunno op. windows 10 still works pretty well for me
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ok i restarted my computer and pressed a few buttons and now it says that i can run windows 11 praise satya 
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Looks like they're allowing 7th gen Intels, so I'm in the club
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quote:the taskbar will not be shown across multiple monitors (will be fixed in an upcoming build) this os sounds like a piece of poo poo
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it is a pos but this is also a beta which is expected to be broken.
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-studio-2/8sbjxm0m58t4 You can buy a Surface Studio 2 right now for $3500 directly from Microsoft and Windows 11 wont run on it.
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Perplx posted:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-studio-2/8sbjxm0m58t4 lol
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Perplx posted:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-studio-2/8sbjxm0m58t4 
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I'm assuming like the last few major windows versions they'll start at "this is a fresh start, no legacy garbage" then their customers will beat them until they roll it all back until 8" floppy support is maintained
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Perplx posted:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-studio-2/8sbjxm0m58t4 lol perfect
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qirex posted:I'm assuming like the last few major windows versions they'll start at "this is a fresh start, no legacy garbage" then their customers will beat them until they roll it all back until 8" floppy support is maintained As the Sun crossed the threshold into old age it's gentle caress of the earth turned to a scorching embrace. All life faltered. Humanity, eternally distracted by electronic diversions and cats had failed to grow beyond the planet. It was decided to send a message via massive EM pulse to the stars, to let the galaxy know that once we were here. As the fusion plants reached maximum output, and the carrier wave oscillator achieved perfect frequency, the operators made the smart gesture to initiate and watched through their holo-lenses as the controller AIs initiated. As system after system showed success their hearts swelled with pride. But it was short lived - a box, a simple rectangular box had appeared in their hud. The text informing them of their failure was an ancient earth script. In failure, they turned the neuro-recordings over to the archivists that were able to decipher the reason humanity would be extinguished in obscurity. That text was as follows - " Error, msvbvm60.dll not found".
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Perplx posted:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-studio-2/8sbjxm0m58t4 win
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they took away my small taskbar icons. fail.
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quote:Flexible payment options available with Klarna you know who else like to change ordinary words to start with kl
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Something tells me ClassicShell will unfuck all the win 11 start menu and task bar fuckery
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flakeloaf posted:you know who else like to change ordinary words to start with kl Klarna Bank AB, commonly referred to as Klarna, is a Swedish fintech company that provides online financial services such as payments for online storefronts and direct payments along with post-purchase payments. The company has 3000 employees.
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Gonna take a wild guess its one of those 5% actual employees 95% sales and marketing companies
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klarna is the company that helps you go into debt to buy trainers I think
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pointsofdata posted:klarna is the company that helps you go into debt to buy trainers I think also they are a big erlang user iirc, to the point where i am sure monocqc has stories
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Klarna Bank AB, commonly referred to as Klarna, is a Swedish fintech company that provides online financial services such as payments for online storefronts and direct payments along with post-purchase payments. hmm i see "post-purchase payments" meaning financing for luxury goods though right? pointsofdata posted:klarna is the company that helps you go into debt to buy trainers I think kinda like this?
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