dismas posted:

same

ugh time to download dungeon master 2 again. i loved that game. Our mac could barely run it but that sort of made it easier because you could basically buffer spells and get like eight fireballs off at once

Yapping Eevee posted:

Ah, the Legend of Grimrock approach then, to draw a more modern comparison.

JustJeff88 posted:

Missile weapons work well in this game as actual weapons, but they are annoying to use because they have to be reset after every use. This means putting arrows in quivers, daggers and stones in pouches etc. This game also does not allow long weapons (spears, halberds, staves) to be used from the second row as in the Ravenloft games and Menzo. I forget which game I played where I used an arrow or throwing weapon, picked it up, and the game filed it back where it was before I used it. I recall being absolutely gobsmacked by that brilliant QoL feature, but now I can't remember the game.

wafflemoose posted:

I've always called it the Stonekeep Shuffle since that game was the first dungeon crawler I've played with that sort of combat.

Pierzak posted:

Yes. I don't know if they're any use at all in EOB1, but if they are, it's something like "pick the lock you could brute force with a high-Str character", so whatever. Fluff element.

However, EOB2 has quite a few pickable doors that lack dedicated keys so only a thief can open them, giving access to some good things.

Also, color me surprised that in a game that ignores so many of the more niche mechanics of AD&D, the rust monsters work as intended. I don't think I ever saw that in my playthrough, but then again, the mere possibility of item loss/destruction is enough to make me unload heavy firepower on the offender.

(yes, I do hate the thief-type monsters in DM with the fury rivaling the fire of a thousand burning suns, why do you ask? Which also makes grinding them for money in DM2 all the more satisfying )

vilkacis posted:

Pierzak posted:

All Casters Are Bastards.

PurpleXVI posted:

I think it actively depends on two things.

Firstly, is this religion very vengeful and/or does it involve robes with large hoods? Dagger to the brain. It's some end-the-world bullshit.

Secondly, is it patterned in an extremely Catholic way? I.e. large hats, cathedrals, hoods, choirs, etc.? Dagger to the brain. The GM has played too many jRPG's and they're almost certainly trying to end the world and/or destroy all heretics.

achtungnight posted:

Awesome pictures of Beholders in this update. What exactly did you do to the one stuck in the ceiling? It wasn't clear.

achtungnight posted:

I always pronounce them Day-mons and Dee-mons personally. Them and Devils are the three major groups of evil extraplanar creatures in D&D. Daemons are the most mercenary of the bunch.

The Khelben impersonation trick made Dran quite a memorable villain back when I had this game.

JustJeff88 posted:

Is that green crystal hammer a boomerang throwing weapon? I remember the Spiritual Hammer spell in this game and Dungeon Hack being throwing weapons that came back to the user.

That's the one I'm most familiar with and the one I remember most fondly, even if it's almost universally regarded as the weakest of the trilogy. I still remember my aunt bringing me back a copy from a trip to France. I really like the NPCs in 3, especially the first one.

Guy Fawkes posted:

The third game changed a lot about weapons brought from the previous games, first of all changing the icons and removing all unicities in name and graphic(I loved the long sword "Talon" and the short sword "Slicer", both powerful and particular). It's part of the cause of my dislike for it.

JustJeff88 posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with you!?!?

JustJeff88 posted:

Wait! Are you... me?

After I made that mostly facetious post, I realised that I can't think of a version of D&D that I would want to see it remade in. 4e would probably be my preference, but it would be too hard to 'translate' and the fans of the classic series would bounce off of it. I suppose that 5e would be the least of many evils.

PurpleXVI posted:

Part of the issue, for me, is that "blobber" dungeon crawling is just the worst way to leverage any version of D&D.

Even if you're doing something purely combat-focused, so many things in any edition of D&D rely on positioning. Flanking, cover, the shapes of blasts and cones, traps and choke points.

And I will say unironically that 2e is a better system than either 3e or 5e in many ways. Fight me. 4e is also good, though, just didn't break enough with 3e in several ways.

Chronische posted:

Why would you tweak the leveling? It's fine as-is, imo! Not that there isn't stuff to tweak, of course, having made quite a few changes myself, but that's one of the parts I like best about it - that, and class-based XP rewards.

PurpleXVI posted:

Honestly, I'm glad. Might and Magic without the robots and lasers just... isn't Might and Magic.

JustJeff88 posted:

Yes, I must have been a precocious software pirate because I don't remember a tiny bit of lore in a manual of a game from over 25 years ago that was in a foreign language.