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how do we not have a thread to complain about everyone's favorite YAML datacenter operating system i am mad about red hat IBM whatever. i never want to hear about whatever loving bullshit "what if we made OUR OWN THING" for something that already exists in the k8s ecosystem IBM is pushing this month so they can make consulting dollars hocking it. just participate in the lovely OSS governance system everyone else has to swear to god i am going to yeet the next salesperson who asks about certified operators into the sun. having to maintain separate builds to meet arbitrary redhat requirements and ensure that every container uses a blessed RHEL image (entirely for the purposes of "containing a single golang binary" is loving pointless beyond being able to tell technically naive customers that something is "certified"
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more like kuber not gonna get any replies
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what the gently caress did I just read? you’ll be lucky if you don’t get institutionalised for this thread
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aw poo poo, someone put quotes around the 'on' again.
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openshift is good op
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jesus christ ignorance really is bliss. maybe try gardening op ps if your idea of gardening involves arduinos then you are doing it wrong. i shouldn't need to say that but you wrote out that op so just making sure
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MrQueasy posted:aw poo poo, someone put quotes around the 'on' again. accidental norway boolean is some good poo poo
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a team at my last job decided they’d be better off inventing their own orchestration instead of using kubernetes. last i checked they’d spent 4 months reinventing cron poorly on top of zookeeper. moral of the story: kubernetes may have a lot of incidental complexity, but can be very helpful for building distributed systems automation.
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ive always found kubernetes pretty easy and it makes it easier for us to load up a new client into the cluster with almost no effort.
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yaml is bad
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DELETE CASCADE posted:yaml is bad agreed, its like json, but somehow even worse
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xmHell isn't much better so now what???
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xml is better than both json and yaml
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csv supremacy
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you could use nomad i guess
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I don’t janitor servers but recently had to create some vm images on a linux and the whole experience was stupid and bad.
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epitaph posted:a team at my last job decided they’d be better off inventing their own orchestration instead of using kubernetes. last i checked they’d spent 4 months reinventing cron poorly on top of zookeeper. hey theres like twenty companies out there that have the internal engineering muscle and use cases to get their zookeeper/nomad stuff right and useful. it's like how netflix and sony have viable in-house freebsd poo poo that works for them. there's probably also a ton of companies that /arent those companies/ and have one engineer on some sorta crazy vision quest trying to build their dream orchestration poo poo out of twigs and spit in the outback could be worse, could be workin on some infra built on dc/os or ECS godspeed to the devops architect dude i had one meeting with, who was working on utilizing some of our poo poo in ECS. at wework. in late 2019. he was an extremely chill dude, ill give him that Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jul 13, 2021 |
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we are an msp/var that recently bought a dev shop and if they ask me to set up a kubberneets swarm or a dorker cluster or whatever I’m going to look for something new
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:xml is better than both json and yaml its amazing how much better it is and just how bad yaml is. yaml is like someone was trying to make the worst serialization format
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:xml is better than both json and yaml yep.
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Shaggar posted:yaml is like someone was trying to make the worst serialization format
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the fuckin ini file format was better
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you can tell who the old-heads are with a lot of experience based on their choice of format between xml yaml and json
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rotor posted:the fuckin ini file format was better ini/properties is a fine format
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Shaggar posted:ini/properties is a fine format ini is fine, properties is kinda eh
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rotor posted:ini is fine, properties is kinda eh both are vastly superior to fuckin yaml
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the subset of yaml used in configs is great, way better than xml or like parts of my company like to use, json  xml is for documents, not configuration
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Fortaleza posted:the subset of yaml used in configs is great, way better than xml or like parts of my company like to use, json subset?????
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rotor posted:ini is fine, properties is kinda eh they're the same thing
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altho i guess maybe ini has [sections] never used those
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Fortaleza posted:xml is for documents, not configuration xml can be whatever you want it to be
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Shaggar posted:altho i guess maybe ini has [sections] never used those yeah this is the difference
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Fortaleza posted:the subset of yaml used in configs is great, way better than xml or like parts of my company like to use, json you store configuration in xml documents. yaml is not suitable for anything beyond aggravating its users
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literally can't understand anything said in this thread but I'm just gonna post through it
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google cloud has some workflow automation tool but as soon as i saw it was yaml-based i went right back to my lovely python scripts. literally rather write a p-lang than yaml
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only fitting that the kube thread immediately becomes the people qq'ing about yaml thread
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yaml is fine 
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Share Bear posted:subset????? apparently yaml has some sort of full blown object deserialization, was the subject of a huge security vulnerability in years past. I mean the basic keys, lists, strings and booleans that people tend to stick to.
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Ansible Adams posted:yaml is fine 
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