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Congrats Bucks, but now it's time for weekly regional food chat, weird hypotheticals, and a dozen or so posters to rehash the same arguments we've been having for over a decade it's the best time of year, it's the: NBA OFFSEASON THREAD Some Key Dates: June 21-27: NBA draft combine June 22: NBA draft lottery July 23 to Aug. 8: Toyko Olympics (Houston players who could be involved include John Wall, Eric Gordon, and Christian Wood for the United States, and Kelly Olynyk for Canada.) July 29: 2021 NBA draft Aug. 2: Free agency negotiations can begin at 5 p.m. Central Aug. 3: Official start of 2021-22 league year; brief moratorium period begins on transactions Aug 3rd: California Classic (4 team summer league thing) Aug. 6: Moratorium period ends at 11:01 a.m. Central, allowing free agents to be signed and trades to be executed Aug. 8-17: NBA Summer League in Las Vegas Sept. 28: Training camps open Oct. 3rd-15: NBA Preseason games Oct. 19: Regular season begins April 16, 2022: 2021-22 playoffs start June 2, 2022: NBA Finals Game 1 June 19, 2022: NBA Finals Game 7 June 23, 2022: 2022 NBA draft Player Opt-Out Calendar: quote:July 25: And remember, every team goes into this season with the belief that anything is possible: 
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Jul 21, 2021 15:51
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Carlosologist posted:Midrange jumpers are back in vogue and people will stop at nothing to complain about how it’s a bad shot Midrange and jumbo-sized lineups. Bucks and Lakers winning the last 2 championships going anti-small is a thing.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:56
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Calidus posted:Is it really anti-small or just having an absolute freak of a human that play the 4 and 5 on both ends of the court? I mean yes, but in basketball there's lots of freaks. I think going jumbo is a side-effect but it does show that "The future of the league is going small" is probably overblown, not that going big is the next thing or anything.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:47
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hifi posted:yeah inserting giannis is not going jumbo in any basketball sense. same with kd, ad, anyone else 7 feet tall that doesnt run like banjo kazooie. That just seems like "No True Scotsman". Of course you play skilled players. Bucks played heavy minutes from Lopez, PJ Tucker, and Portis in addition to big guys like Giannis and or Middleton heavy minutes as the 2 guard, where he is pretty big for the role. It's not just "playing Giannis" it's "Playing Giannis with a rotation where Lopez, Tucker and Portis are getting 80 minutes combined"
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Jul 21, 2021 17:09
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MourningView posted:PJ Tucker is like 6'5" and his entire offensive game is standing in the corner. Him getting minutes at center is like the exact thing people are talking about when they say the league is moving away from traditional bigs. He wasn't getting minutes at center though, he played almost always with Lopez or Portis (sometime both), he was at PF and SF. Playing him at center WOULD be playing small but they didn't do that.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:24
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WhyteRyce posted:excuse me why is the California Classic not listed in the key dates Added just for you
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Jul 21, 2021 17:50
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abelwingnut posted:going back a few pages in the old thread, but rodman: hooper or player? i think i can go either way there? He's an Other I'd call him a Player-Athlete though if I had to use the superior job system.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:20
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:The Dallas Mavericks will sign Kawhi Leonard and win 2 (two) NBA championships in the next four years. Kawhi would be perfect on that team (as he would be for most teams) but if I were him I'd look at what the Clippers looked like and wouldn't think too much about moving. I dunno what the deal is with his issues with the medical staff or w/e.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:22
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Spacebump posted:Over 1/10th of Milwaukee’s population being in the deer district last night during a pandemic was one of the most irresponsible things I’ve ever seen on tv. I saw 0 masks, Delta is about to mutate to the Deer District strain. That crowd would have been a cool thing in non pandemic times. Americans deciding the pandemic was basically over this summer is going to look bad by the winter. Giannis working on the tzatziki variant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9fDDfTK-c Seriously, do not ask thousands of people to needlessly go to an airport or all places.
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Jul 21, 2021 19:21
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OzFactor posted:N: https://twitter.com/AROD/status/1417912345683120128?s=20 His dream as a kid in New York, the Dominican and Miami was to own the Timberwolves, a team that was created when he was 14 years old. Azathoth posted:That rear end in a top hat is definitely looking to move the team, even odds if he can actually make it happen, but I just know he is champing at the bit to do it. Right now owners would make a lot more money on expansion instead. Which if Arod/Lore really wanted a team in Seattle would have seemed easier just to try to get that. But I'm not super confident in them staying either. hifi posted:player option opt out calendar: Putting in OP
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Jul 21, 2021 19:50
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Ammanas posted:i mean they still have to pay their bills If you suddenly have an asset worth a ton more you can get loans on it pretty easy. But that asset being worth a ton more is all the more reason other owners would rather just sell a new franchise than charge a cheaper relocation fee.
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Jul 21, 2021 20:40
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morestuff posted:The league’s only moved one team in the last 20 years and that was such a black eye for them that I think they’ve mostly lost their taste for it Kings almost got moved. But I think if Seattle gets taken off the table due to expansion there isn't an obvious place to move. Not that OKC was such an obvious place I guess.
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Jul 21, 2021 20:56
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Vegas has a weird vibe of a lot of people from out-of-state and such. Seattle seems like such a huge #1 to me. KC/St Louis is another interesting one. By themselves they aren't that big but they aren't all that far from each other. There was a plan floating around a while ago with a split-home location where half the games would be in KC, the other have it StL. Ammanas posted:In another decade the complete absence of potable water across the western United States will turn Vegas into a ghost town And MN will be a bastion of us water-wealthy folks.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:02
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Ayton still had a good series, he just wasn't as dominant. He was 14.7/12 on 53% FG% and 90+% FT (almost 60% TS). With 1.5 steals AND blocks per game. He had a positive +/- per game too. I mean undress Perk but the Ayton slander is getting to me.
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Jul 21, 2021 23:39
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Lonzo should go to a team than needs a SG who is a secondary ball handler, wants to run more, and is ok with most of the offense from the 2 guard to be spot-ups. Bulls are a bad choice, they have too many guys who should be secondary ball handlers. Dallas would be a great place for Lonzo, though they probably need more help than he can provide.
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Jul 22, 2021 00:47
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Stevie Lee posted:hehestreams is dead Crud. They were awesome for me. That sucks.
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Jul 22, 2021 04:28
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/barrybondz/status/1418033391782567936?s=21 Hmm. I wonder if Zion's window and Lillard would line up but yeah that's interesting. Ingram and some of those Bucks/Lakers picks would be a good haul for Portland.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:06
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Think Less posted:There are enough high-quality free streams out there that I didn't miss a single game I wanted to see It's worth money to me to not have to hunt, and being able to chromecast without jumping through hoops is also really important. If League Pass would let me pay for a "no blackouts" I'd probably just do that, but they literally won't let me use their product.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:16
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Azathoth posted:Russ's whole game is predicated on being the primary facilitator, and I don't know how well that meshes with the facilitator aspects of LeBron's game. Maybe I've got a warped view of Russ, but it seems like you'd lose a big chunk of what makes LeBron so good to have everything flow through Russ. Or the reverse, if LeBron retains much of his facilitation, is Russ gonna be able to be as good being a secondary ball handler. I think Lebron probably would be best if someone can take over primary duties while he sits or just chills on some offensive possessions now and then. Russ + AD seems absolutely killer to me and when you get into the playoffs I think you just count on wearing down teams trying to guard both those guys (few teams have people who can guard both over a whole series without gassing their offense). And in that hypothetical they aren't giving up anything besides Schroeder who is basically the same archetype just not as disruptive.
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Jul 22, 2021 19:16
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I've literally seen people saying Russ would be better for the Lakers than CP3 and at this point I feel like I'm being gaslit about Russ Sure, I think CP3 would be better but the path to getting CP3 involves the Suns willingly setting up their Western Conference rival.
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Jul 22, 2021 19:19
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WhyteRyce posted:I think people (including Kings fans) are making too much of this. Monte is basically open to any and every option and is just shopping around to see what he could get. There's also a couple all-star type guys who might get traded. Its a good draft but #8 shouldn't be considered untouchable or anything.
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Jul 22, 2021 19:35
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Right now a lot of FO are taking vacations and whatnot too though, so usually stuff is kinda quiet beyond some rumors.
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Jul 22, 2021 22:36
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Yeah, Pek was crazy. There were a bunch of stories of him being hired muscle for Montenegro street gangs (which is terrifying) and at one point I think Love said something like Pek was the scariest guy in the NBA.
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Jul 23, 2021 04:17
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kingcobweb posted:
Being able to consistently beat up the double dragon brothers makes you a top level boss. Second to last or last boss even.
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Jul 23, 2021 15:07
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https://streamable.com/l8ilvu Announcer complaining Australia had two women carry the flag. Kate Campbell and Patty Mills. It should be gender equal! 
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Jul 23, 2021 15:36
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ChickenMedium posted:Do they not know the difference between Austria and Australia? I think they come out alphabetically and they were talking about the last group, the joke is they thought Patty Mills was a woman.
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Jul 23, 2021 16:15
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It doesn't feel right making fun of the Celtics since Ainge stepped down. Trading for Horford might be really funny but Brad Stevens needs to call Garden Edwards untouchable or something.
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Jul 23, 2021 20:56
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They should still do more testing if they have the capacity/infrastructure to do it.
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Jul 23, 2021 21:35
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Chairchucker posted:Is this where we go to talk about fast food chains It's the offseason thread. Fast food chat, terrible Simmons trade chat, and an over representation of Timberwolves fans.
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Jul 24, 2021 03:01
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aBagorn posted:i've become very enamored with the idea of swapping tobias harris for andrew wiggins please someone talk me down. Wiggins would be better at creating shots in the half-court, but Tobias is a better shooter, more efficient in general, and honestly probably a better fit. Wiggins is more of a 2/3, Golden State had him playing wing with bigger Oubre or more defensive minded Bazemore a lot. That was the secret of Wiggins "Defensive Improvement", he played with better defenders and didn't have to do nearly as much as with the Wolves. So in that trade you have a big hole next to Embiid. I don't really understand the Sixers' fans desire to jettison Harris when he is doing exactly what you want him to do and been a pretty effective player.
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Jul 24, 2021 14:38
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aBagorn posted:See i don't think he is. The offense was at its best (before the all star break) when he was shooting more spot up threes. Once he went back to being a back down, turn around congested twos player the offense got stagnant. "I want someone who won't default to inefficient ISO plays, so let's go get Wiggins"
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Jul 24, 2021 14:58
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anakha posted:The Finals showed you need at least two guys who are capable of getting buckets without help on your team. Harris is better at that than Wiggins without a doubt. Harris and Wiggins are pretty equivalent in creating a shot, and in fact I think Wiggins is better at doing that from the perimeter, Harris is better down low but that's easier to defend. That's sorta The Thing with Wiggins, he'll break down the defense and create space all over. His problem is he ends up creating that space and then taking the mid-range shot. And Wiggins has always let it fly but shooting a bunch mroe 3s isn't better by itself.
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Jul 24, 2021 15:34
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Dejan Bimble posted:
I think it was literally one game at the end of the season: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dragizo01/gamelog/2015 But then he never played in the NBA again
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Jul 24, 2021 21:46
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I Before E posted:Drafting Wiggins got you Kevin Love without having to play Wiggins, which seems like a win. Yeah, I wish this adjusted for guys who played their first minute with the team vs who happened to hold the draft pick. The former is far more relavent.
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Jul 25, 2021 00:44
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JackBandit posted:They also had KAT as being the 3rd or 4th “best” draft pick, which doesn’t make any sense. The idea there is KAT was way better than the guys following him, so the Wolves get value for not loving up. It makes sense on one level (#8 in one year will have a different expected value than another) but it needs to be baselined against, like, Hollinger's draft board or something because it definitely gives a lot of credit when the pick was obvious (the model obviously doesn't know that).
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Jul 25, 2021 02:40
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Dejan Bimble posted:The Timberwolves are losing Evan turners $28 million. It looks like they have a lot of Space, anyone know what they are likely to do, what would you like to see them do? They really don't have much. 131 in guaranteed contracts oh a cap of 112 and a tax of 136. They probably won't do anything beyond minimum fill ins unless they make some trades, and I'm guessing they do some trades. They won't go into the tax unless it's a solid playoff team though.
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Jul 25, 2021 05:18
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Dejan Bimble posted:I am really bad at reading sporTrac Last year was a beast on them too. I think they'll be in play for the play-in (which isn't what you want when your capped out either), Beasley looked really solid too. They have talent but they are really guard heavy.
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Jul 25, 2021 05:38
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"Trade includes Kuzma" is the 14 years later version of Theo Ratliff's Expiring Contract
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Jul 25, 2021 19:18
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Durant was basically built in a lab to dominate FIBA rules but it must be his entitlement rather than playing a condensed season and deep playoff run after an injury that is frequently career ending.
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Jul 25, 2021 21:58
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Sinteres posted:He was playing out of his loving mind at the end of that playoff run, so I don't really buy that he's suddenly incapable of playing basketball due to that either tbh. This guy just ran a marathon why can't he immediately turn around and be just as good at running a marathon? Playing out of his mind after the injury and this season probably took more out of him than anything he's done prior. Honestly anyone who made the playoffs should have been out. Its asking way too much.
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Jul 25, 2021 22:20
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