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Strong Sauce posted:i'm confused. how can the dealer's card be marked.. you're sharing the same shoe right? does that mean all cards are marked.. or? i thought you were talking about some kinda machine until you mentioned the dealer having to correct pushed hands. All card backs are marked (colored) and the shoe is designed to cover the next card so you can't see it until it's out.
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This poo poo's getting too expensive now. Like I need $100 on the table just to be able to throw dice at people.
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Aug 9, 2022 22:32
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Face up Pai-Gow is definitely my game of choice at the Casino and what's more it seems to be taking over now.. Last time I was in Vegas the only casino we found it at was New York - New York and it was this weird thing I had never seen before that we decided to try out and ended up loving. Now from what I've read it's like 60-70% of the Pai Gow tables you'll find in Vegas and the old commission based game is basically fading out of existence. I've taken my friends who have never gambled before and they've had a ton of fun playing Pai Gow poker because it's relatively easy for anyone to pick up once they understand they can ask for help setting their hand whenever they need it... a good game for people who plan on taking full advantage of those free drinks they bring around the table as I do  I think the fact that the dealers are able to help you play optimal strategy and the game is so slow actually makes for a better vibe around the table - it feels like the dealers are on your side. One bit of advice I have is if you aren't an expert in the game and you decide to place a bet for the dealer you should really let them set your hand for you based on the house way lol.. Just advice to avoid any awkward situations that could potentially pop up  I've heard that the latest scam the Casinos are pushing is a resurgence in crapless craps, the triple 0 roulette of craps. From what I'm reading it's becoming more and more the case that the only table the lower limit player can afford to play at is the one with the biggest house edge - the 6:5 blackjack table or the triple 0 roulette wheel. Is there any other examples of scam games I should steer my friends clear of when I'm down there? Have they figured out a way to make baccarat odds worse for the player yet?
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Aug 21, 2022 23:43
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Starsfan posted:Is there any other examples of scam games I should steer my friends clear of when I'm down there? Have they figured out a way to make baccarat odds worse for the player yet? https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/ This is a list of casino games with house edge listed. You can see some absolute bangers on that list, like Big Six and Keno are just absurd. The best game - and the only game with no house edge - is still the sensible boring bets at Craps.
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Aug 22, 2022 01:04
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Leperflesh posted:https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/ yeah.. I've been kind of turned off of craps because as others have mentioned I just don't have the bankroll to play it consistently for an evening - especially not on the strip in Vegas where you get these 20 and 25 dollar minimum tables. I mean if you are playing "correctly" and taking max odds on your wagers and making come bets occasionally you can easily burn through a couple thousand bucks in a night if the luck goes sour. I know that's a worst case scenario and it's not like someone has a gun to your head making you place max odds when you don't have the money to do it, but I prefer a game that's less boom and bust. I'm going to take a looksie at that link you gave me and see if I can find any new favorites
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Aug 22, 2022 01:28
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Leperflesh posted:https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/ Heading back to Vegas in October, I've always wanted a spin at craps--took a free class a few years ago at Cromwell and left more confused than I had been before the class. This is the kind of info I need to buck up and just learn it the right way--hang around a table, watch, and ask questions. Thanks! e: I'm also glad that face-up Pai Gow has taken over, it's a much better game than OG Pai Gow. gently caress them quarters
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Aug 22, 2022 01:30
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it's a really good page, in addition to the table of house edge (based on optimal play) there's an explanation of "element of risk" and also an allegedly leaked table of hands-per-hour with the house edge of "average" play that are worth looking at. Pai Gow does seem to be a decent game to play, the house edge is listed as 1.5% for optimal play or 1.65% based on actual play, with just 30 hands per hour helping to keep the burn rate down.
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Aug 22, 2022 01:40
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^^^ Yeah I once calculated out a huge spreadsheet of every common casino game in Vegas to figure out how much is actually being "wagered" per hour playing the best strategy / typical table limits and Pai Gow came out #1 by a healthy margin despite typically a higher table minimum.. slow rate of play combined with 40%+ of the hands being a push means you can usually hang in there for hours even on a limited bankroll and even if things don't go so well. Face up Pai Gow might be even more push heavy than typical pai gow because you push automatically on a dealer ace high pai gow and sometimes you can set your hand unconventionally to get a push in a hand you would otherwise lose.Judgy Fucker posted:Heading back to Vegas in October, I've always wanted a spin at craps--took a free class a few years ago at Cromwell and left more confused than I had been before the class. This is the kind of info I need to buck up and just learn it the right way--hang around a table, watch, and ask questions. Thanks! Yeah you should give it a spin - don't be afraid to go up to the table and watch for a bit or find an open table (easier said than done regretfully) and talk to the dealers, the main point of playing craps is to have fun and I think you will pick up the game pretty quickly once you get going at it.. I actually prefer playing on an empty table with just me and my friends when possible, but the game is so popular and the tables are more expensive for the casinos to run that they have it pretty well optimized to where they don't often have tables with nobody at them. If you find yourself suffering a couple bad beats and suddenly the bankroll gets lower you can always revert to placing numbers (the 6 and the 8 make the most sense) where you are just betting a fixed amount that gets paid off every time a number is thrown. It's not as high upside as the odds on the pass line bet but the house edge is very reasonable and you can just make close to the minimum bet on the table instead of several times that amount to play most optimally. Although the one thing that is kind of important to know about placing 6 or 8 (that hopefully the dealer will remind you of) is that you should bet those numbers in multiples of $6 to avoid getting cheated on the payout for a win which is paid at 7:6. **and you are heading down there just before me, so make sure to come back with a report on where all the action is!
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Starsfan posted:**and you are heading down there just before me, so make sure to come back with a report on where all the action is! I absolutely will--I hit a four of a kind and a straight flush at FUPG back in March and absolutely intend to repeat my successes, so I'll naturally have to brag about them. And thanks a ton of the craps advice--rotating between video poker and FUPG usually keeps me pretty entertained but I know a few of my buds will want to play craps so I'll be sure to tag along when it comes up.
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Aug 22, 2022 02:48
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craps with minimum place bets on 6/8 is alright if you dont want the exposure of multiple times the minimum bet on pass odds. and just pass line without odds is a decent house edge too without the exposure if you like high variance you can just let the bets ride, or take them off if they pay
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Starsfan posted:If you find yourself suffering a couple bad beats and suddenly the bankroll gets lower you can always revert to placing numbers (the 6 and the 8 make the most sense) where you are just betting a fixed amount that gets paid off every time a number is thrown. It's not as high upside as the odds on the pass line bet but the house edge is very reasonable and you can just make close to the minimum bet on the table instead of several times that amount to play most optimally. Although the one thing that is kind of important to know about placing 6 or 8 (that hopefully the dealer will remind you of) is that you should bet those numbers in multiples of $6 to avoid getting cheated on the payout for a win which is paid at 7:6. This is a really fun way to try and catch a hot shooter and cap your downside if it's running cold. You can literally play for $12/shooter and if a shooter catches fire you can easily make 5-6x your initial investment in the hand, easy. In a perfect world, I start with taking 2 hits so I net +2 for the roll no matter what, then use winners to cover the 5/9 then branch out to 4/10, alternating between pressing and taking. Fun strategy, $120 can get you through 10 shooters which will almost assuredly get you a good roll mixed in along the way. There's also an additional  factor of being able to rationalize away the 'house money' that you eventually lose on a 7 out.Can easily be scaled up, too, if you wanted to do it on a higher limit table while not requiring a mid 4 figure buy-in. TheKevman fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Sep 12, 2022 |
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Sep 12, 2022 23:01
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I just came into this thread to say that I have fallen in love with 3 Card Poker.
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Mukulu posted:I just came into this thread to say that I have fallen in love with 3 Card Poker. What do you like about it? I've never played it and would like to know more. Also sorry I never did a craps report, we did not in fact wind up playing craps. But my bud did hit a minor jackpot on FUPG. poo poo was cool
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It was super easy. I'm not a really a card player, but I caught on pretty quick. I liked that I wasn't playing against other players so the atmosphere and people were easy to get along with. You all play against the dealer. There is a fun little side bet where you can bet your three cards with the dealer's three cards. So you've got a chance to get big straights, flushes, and full houses and stuff.
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3 card poker was my go to years ago, but it gets a bit boring after a while. I can't get away from the hold-em table games though.
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how bad is the house edge?
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And how long does a game around the table take? 'Cause the two things you mentioned--not playing against other players and side bets--are what I like about FUPG, which also has the benefits of frequent pushes and taking a bit longer to resolve than other table games I've tried.
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I would love FUPG, however it's not offered anywhere around where I live, and there are like half a dozen casinos I could easily go to.
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Judgy Fucker posted:And how long does a game around the table take? 'Cause the two things you mentioned--not playing against other players and side bets--are what I like about FUPG, which also has the benefits of frequent pushes and taking a bit longer to resolve than other table games I've tried. When the table was full, I think five people, the whole thing took like three minutes.
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LorneReams posted:3 card poker was my go to years ago, but it gets a bit boring after a while. I can't get away from the hold-em table games though. UHE has the only bad side bet I like because it isn't that bad for house edge and adds just enough "realistic" variance to be really fun
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Feels Villeneuve posted:UHE has the only bad side bet I like because it isn't that bad for house edge and adds just enough "realistic" variance to be really fun Which one?
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El Generico posted:Which one? trips. increases house edge but the variance is too fun
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