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Kanos posted:G-Reco in X was really weird because they actually included a lot more units than I expected them to but a lot of them were weird half-baked inclusions with like one attack. I'm part of the G-Reco fan crew and I probably would have been happier if they included less units but fleshed out the ones they did include more.
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I liked in V how you had Gaine for like, half a stage before he combined into Might Gaine. Looks like they're not doing that for J-decker which is a shame IMO.
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Sep 28, 2021 10:05
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I liked mixing Gundam parts in that MS Saga jrpg and actually seeing it visibly. That game was a treat.
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Sep 28, 2021 13:18
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Rascyc posted:I liked mixing Gundam parts in that MS Saga jrpg and actually seeing it visibly. That game was a treat. I'd love to see a new one. So much Gundam has happened since then too! A sequel would have like 15 years of parts to draw from.
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Sep 28, 2021 14:10
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Sep 28, 2021 14:26
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Rascyc posted:I liked mixing Gundam parts in that MS Saga jrpg and actually seeing it visibly. That game was a treat. The customization in MS Saga is neat but the plot combines all the gundam cliches with all the JRPG cliches to create something entirely void of original thought.
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Presumably 'Unicorn is not DLC' means 'Unicorn will be a secret.' They did show Banagher in PV2, and the unicorn does appear briefly in a flashback in Narrative, so you can fudge it to get it in without having to have Unicorn as an entry in the series list. Probably a standard get Banagher a certain number of kills thing.
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Maybe banagher under X kills for that inner peace thing?
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Sep 28, 2021 15:04
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Wonder what the cut-off for DLC was as far as time goes. 2019? Last year?
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Sep 28, 2021 15:41
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What do they mean by "surprise" entries? As in all-new never before seen series entries?
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Sep 28, 2021 15:51
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I assume they mean there that series that were complete oddballs in Omega won't be DLC, so no Heybot, Pop Team Epic, etcetera.
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Endorph posted:Presumably 'Unicorn is not DLC' means 'Unicorn will be a secret.' They did show Banagher in PV2, and the unicorn does appear briefly in a flashback in Narrative, so you can fudge it to get it in without having to have Unicorn as an entry in the series list. Probably a standard get Banagher a certain number of kills thing. I guess it depends on if Unicorn means the Unicorn Gundam or Unicorn the series.
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In similar robot strategy game news: PS4/PS5's Relayer is coming out in Japan on February 17th, 2022. They alleged to have a global worldwide release planned so that may be our release date too. Big gameplay blowout coming in Famitsu on the 30th.
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EclecticTastes posted:I will readily admit I'm That Guy that liked how you could break up combining mechs and Gundams into the various constituent parts/core fighters, even though that feature was largely useless outside of one specific exploit. I also enjoyed how Combattler had like seventy-six different weapons, only five or six of which ever got used regularly. Like, I understand why that level of pointless detail is no longer feasible, I'm just also a bit wistful for those days. If it helps I think Terada has stated that he wants to do a "retro" style SRW some day - granted I have no idea how "retro" he's talking about so maybe he's talking so old-skool that the units are static sprites whose weapons pop into their hands as they float towards the enemy while vibrating a little. Even if he did get approval though I can't imagine that lasting for more than a single nostalgiabait game though, like even Mega Man 9 / 10 had to return to low budget 3D graphics eventually for 11.
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Droyer posted:I liked in V how you had Gaine for like, half a stage before he combined into Might Gaine. Looks like they're not doing that for J-decker which is a shame IMO. The biggest missed opportunity from the z series is not needing to deploy a small army in order to combine into ultimate gravion.
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Ethiser posted:I guess it depends on if Unicorn means the Unicorn Gundam or Unicorn the series.
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Dance Officer posted:Getting Great Zeorymer means you're not getting the IWSP pack, Gale in the Greimkaiser and layzner mk2. And the x-aestivalis. IWSP's main utility is if you're a Cagalli fan honestly, since Strike Rouge also benefits from it. It's about the only actual price you pay mechanically. (Other posters have mentioned how disjointed the route choices are though from a story perspective.) Davzz posted:If it helps I think Terada has stated that he wants to do a "retro" style SRW some day - granted I have no idea how "retro" he's talking about so maybe he's talking so old-skool that the units are static sprites whose weapons pop into their hands as they float towards the enemy while vibrating a little. I would guess that if he got approval for something like this they'd be aiming at something around an SRW J level of graphics/animation or thereabouts, since there was also kind of an implication such a title might not be voice acted.
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Davzz posted:If it helps I think Terada has stated that he wants to do a "retro" style SRW some day - granted I have no idea how "retro" he's talking about so maybe he's talking so old-skool that the units are static sprites whose weapons pop into their hands as they float towards the enemy while vibrating a little. For "retro" how about bringing back moving character portraits during Intermissions and Helmet-on portraits during Battle Animations ala the first two Alphas. Please? 
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Sep 29, 2021 02:51
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For retro SRW as frequent as stuff like gundam is in every game: I'd love if it did have 0079, classic mazinger Z and getter (despite how much I love Armageddon) and other series that fit that distinctly retro niche too.
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Sep 29, 2021 03:06
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Bring back the Z1 retro-styled effects.
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Sep 29, 2021 03:20
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more godmars jank please
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helll yeah!!
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Alacron posted:more godmars please
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Please god give us some UC gundams that aren't main series. I miss the 0080 and 0083 crews.
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"Playable Katejina in the Zanspine" is probably a bit much to ask, but 30 will probably at least give us Katejina in the Gottrlatan.
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Kitfox88 posted:Please god give us some UC gundams that aren't main series. I miss the 0080 and 0083 crews. I think next time 0083 comes back, Cima should be unlockable while Gato gets iced no matter what. She got a pretty raw deal in the original series, and SRW hasn't righted that wrong once in thirty years (Impact even has the Gerbera Tetra as a playable unit, without her), while Gato remained a hardcore Zeon supporter to the end, up to and including being personally responsible for one of the few successful colony drops in the UC. I say swap the two out. Also 08th MS Team should be in a game with GaoGaiGar, MightGaine, and Gurren Lagann. Cram as much Nobuyuki Hiyama as humanly possible into every video game. Wait poo poo that would mean more Gundam SEED. Okay maybe exceptions can be made.
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If they did 0083 again it'd be cool if they did the Rebellion manga instead of the anime. It's an overall better take on the same basic story, and has some cool new robots too.
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EclecticTastes posted:I think next time 0083 comes back, Cima should be unlockable while Gato gets iced no matter what. She got a pretty raw deal in the original series, and SRW hasn't righted that wrong once in thirty years (Impact even has the Gerbera Tetra as a playable unit, without her), while Gato remained a hardcore Zeon supporter to the end, up to and including being personally responsible for one of the few successful colony drops in the UC. I say swap the two out. Haman is also directly responsible for a colony drop that killed a ton of people and she's been recruitable multiple times. It would be neat to see some playable Cima representation, but I get the vibe that SRW barely remembers she even exists most of the time. She's certainly never really a major antagonist in any of the games like Gato is, and several of the 0083 inclusions don't even have her.
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Anyway while I’m begging gimme advance of zeta too
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Kanos posted:Haman is also directly responsible for a colony drop that killed a ton of people and she's been recruitable multiple times. I mean, I'm pretty well aware of the reasons why Cima gets sidelined so hard (aside from the more obvious reason, cultural ideas about loyalty hold that Gato is somehow a better person than Cima because she tried to betray Zeon, even though Zeon betrayed her first with the whole nerve gas thing), I just don't think it's fair. Plus, if Banpresto is looking more toward global releases going forward, I think international audiences would (rightly) be more likely to sympathize with Cima than Gato, so it would be a win-win. Also, it occurs to me that the reason 0080, 0083, and 08th MS Team haven't been in a mainline game in so long might have to do with their usual playable casts being made up almost entirely of non-Newtypes. Unless a player is specifically playing favorites with them, they almost always end up abandoned by the ends of the games they show up in.
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Gato comes with a cool chunky mech with a big nuclear bazooka, Cima would come with a much less notable and interesting unit. The Tetra isn't bad or anything, it's just boring compared to Nuclear Bazooka.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Gato comes with a cool chunky mech with a big nuclear bazooka, Cima would come with a much less notable and interesting unit. The Tetra isn't bad or anything, it's just boring compared to Nuclear Bazooka. And yet it's only in Alpha 2 and 3 that the GP02A is worth fielding, when they give it a beam bazooka attack and up the range on its head vulcans and beam saber so range boosting parts can be used. Cause otherwise, it's got range one head vulcans, range one beam saber, and a high morale one-shot map attack. Although granted, 0083 in a modern game would give you plenty of options to make it spam warheads. But I am absolutely echoing the desire for recruitable Cima. Long overdue.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Gato comes with a cool chunky mech with a big nuclear bazooka, Cima would come with a much less notable and interesting unit. The Tetra isn't bad or anything, it's just boring compared to Nuclear Bazooka. The GP-02 is canonically wrecked in battle with Kou, so it's not like one couldn't have a secret that lets you salvage the Physalis while having Gato just escape. It still bugs me how Impact just gives you the Gerbera Tetra. Not even as a secret, you just get it, sans pilot. It's kind of even more galling when you look at just how many obscure UC pilots they flooded Alpha 2 and 3 with, as though they feared we might run out, but couldn't make room to give Cima a chance to join in. Wouldn't want to make Birgit Pirjo, a character nobody remembered until literally this sentence, feel crowded out.
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I'll always remember Birgit for two reasons: 1. The original romanization some people used to use for his name was Billgeet, which is funny to say. 2. The man managed to die to a Bug while piloting a mobile suit, which is in the running for one of the most pathetic and humiliating deaths in the entire Gundam franchise.
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I was disappointed Birgit wasn't in X.EclecticTastes posted:Also, it occurs to me that the reason 0080, 0083, and 08th MS Team haven't been in a mainline game in so long might have to do with their usual playable casts being made up almost entirely of non-Newtypes. Unless a player is specifically playing favorites with them, they almost always end up abandoned by the ends of the games they show up in. The other thing is that there's a lot more Gundam these days - even when Alpha 3 came out, there were only 5 Gundam AUs and of those, Turn A's an odd fit with the UC and G's build around a premise that doesn't really work in an SRW stage. It's easy to fit Destiny, Wing, or 00 into a Super Robot War, and if you're going to put 3-5 units in it's probably going to sell more copies to have one of those casts compared to the people who would buy for some parts of UC but not the more mainstream ones. I do hope they get into a game in the near future though, they've always provided fun units to use and their plots have lots of obvious secrets. Between ace bonuses and half-upgrade bonuses, the recent games give better payoff for investing in supporting units beyond "that robot you like now has a finisher as good as a mid-tier protagonist attack", and that would suit all the side characters those series include.
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That reminds me, maybe I don't fully understand how licensing works, but Bandai-Namco owns Sunrise and the Gundam franchise, what exactly keeps them from using whatever mix of Gundam stuff they feel like in any given SRW, aside from animation/voice/BGM budget concerns? To the best of my knowledge, the series themselves should be completely free. Like, in theory, couldn't any game featuring Crossbone Gundam also have the original F91 around for Kincade?
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EclecticTastes posted:That reminds me, maybe I don't fully understand how licensing works, but Bandai-Namco owns Sunrise and the Gundam franchise, what exactly keeps them from using whatever mix of Gundam stuff they feel like in any given SRW, aside from animation/voice/BGM budget concerns? To the best of my knowledge, the series themselves should be completely free. Like, in theory, couldn't any game featuring Crossbone Gundam also have the original F91 around for Kincade? Marketability, popularity, if the SRW team request it or not, probably a bunch of other reasons.
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Inferno-sama posted:Marketability, popularity, if the SRW team request it or not, probably a bunch of other reasons. I mean, I know why they would/wouldn't put a lot of work in to include something, but a lot of the time there's not much cost involved. To give a specific example, why didn't they just copy/paste the F91 from X into T as a unit-only inclusion? As I recall, more than a few people were dissatisfied with Kincade being stuck with the watered-down X-1. Don't even record new lines, just have Kincade say his generic dialog, and I'm pretty sure cut-ins are assigned to attacks on mobile suits automatically (I doubt someone assigns each cut-in for every possible pilot manually), so there'd be literally no additional work beyond just getting it copied over.
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