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i dont use the term crazy to describe ppl really since its not much different than the R word if you actually care about mental health but yes there are many contentious things going on in the world and i dont / didnt associate with people that have nearly entirely homogenous views as i doubtlessly people that think differently than i have opinions on me wearing a mask and brightly signaling my adoration for things dark and gay
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Mozi posted:what are some words we can use for nominally normally-brained people who act like they don't have one. because really when you think about it, moron, idiot, r-word, crazy, etc etc are all derogatory towards people who didn't have a choice in the matter well, when you refer to another parties mental state as such it implies that u are somewhat unerringly correct in whatever u believe i would personally highlight the conflicts themselves and the frusterations & consequences of it, and maybe start to consider or discuss some of the root causes like fear, ignorance, a right wing propaganda machine that inflicts untold damage by manipulating ppl
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A Fancy Hat posted:Edited the title to reflect this. thats cool tbh, fwiw it was kind of an idle observation and i didnt really think you were a shitbag for it or whatever
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that being said ive probably gone off the deep end tbh i dont really think that any of the various groups rightfully clamoring for equal rights and representation are going to get anywhere nonviolently how could they when the entirety of congress literally isnt human enough to even know when rent is due? so, when i read various polls and statistics about who is and who isnt getting vaccinated, i feel as though i've pulled beyond the "we can do this together, world" phase and i am now in the "i cant wait for the anti mask/science/rights/humanity" crowd to self genocide conversely, i am reminded of something a really wonderful goon said to me some years ago about a similar sentiment re: would be oppressors, which, to paraphrase was just a reminder that cockroaches always have a tendency to survive even the worst holocaust ps, miss you wfp, hopefully you're being really safe, smart and funny somewhere offline
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Decon posted:It's entirely fair to see oneself as unerringly correct in their belief in a spherical earth. honestly you picked the funniest example you probably could have for this, thank you so if somebody is anti vaxer despite vaccines working we should categorize them negatively too? what about among groups with reasons to distrust vaccines? or the government? i think a good% of whatever flat earther anti vax anti mask that exist people would not exist if they were raised in a different system with different values and as such its hard for me to designate vast swathes of people as mentally ill Worf fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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i do not know whats going on w them but i am sad that they do not have a spouse that will go to the concert with them it is particularly painful to see ppl denied basic happinesseseses e: otoh u wouldnt catch me at a concert in a million years these days unless it was one of those like, hang out in ur car at a drive in ones or some poo poo
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oh also that being said i think its perfectly ok to laugh at tio goya as a latino that whole debacle was actually pretty amusing in its WTF nature because, like, theres not too many things in life you just assume have your back but, goya going pro trump and the ensuing white people propping it up was legit one of the funniest things i seen to come out of politics lately which in all fairness politics is not very funny lately. altho i did watch a video of chuck schumer cutting mitch mcconnell off in line to address the media and claim majority privilege and that made me lol, but mainly a sad lol that theyre there cracking jokes while being part of the same government body thats like "oh poo poo lmao is it the first of the month already?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_cOsgRY7w
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my father was formerly politically active, has run for federal office a couple times in the past. he's a socialist and immigrant and even he seems to have mostly given up at this point tbh. maybe he just wants to spend the rest of his time here hanging with his wife and relaxing. when he chooses to talk about politics or the state of affairs in this country its like talking to an amateur boxer that tried to beat tyson or ali or something InediblePenguin posted:i think this applies to many mental illnesses as well. the brain is a product of its environment. i do not say this as an argument in favor of ableism, merely as an observation from one nonstandard brain agreed, and i blame a lot of those bad n gross environs on the intentional machinations of a lot of evil and gross people, but most of them probably arent the average people on the streets too wrapped up in their stuff to save their own lives + many others in a pandemic unwitting soldiers in a war against their own existence. i can spend time hating them for helping make poo poo worse but honestly its not a healthy place for me to be at and probably not constructive. conversely, i do think that recognizing the massive amount of systemic momentum that helps perpetuates this behavior is worth doing and may acutally help some day
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Yaldabaoth posted:I don't think rightwingers are "crazy" so much as the laws of natural dictated that humans had to act like violent psychopaths to survive the same way a dung beetle has to eat poo poo to survive. Difference is humanity has more options now but these people want to keep eating poo poo because simply because they genetically programmed to, so it feels normal and the "correct" way to behave to them to the point where the ego makes countless assumptions about the world to justify killing anyone who's not a cis-white evangelical male. i was walkin down the streeet sweating mballs off earlier thinking this exact same thing today as i realized that trying to reprogram these people is not gonna wrk since its firmware level problems see: my statement re: solving this nonviolently theres also the reality, imho, that taking the stance that "these other ppl are crazy" is an absolutely untenable position to actually approach the situation with. theres plenty of the same mental illness on either ends of any political spectrum or divide i have little doubt. imo one cant come up to a person or group and pretend to have constructive criticism based on the premise that anybody that displays virtues or actions similar to theirs are lesser-than. its not a way to have a receptive audience on that end imo and its even worse when like minded ppl (liberals/democrats/left/whatever) effectively form a team with that stance. you never want to create 2 different teams of people if you can avoid it, its exactly why we are in this problem today. so thats partly why i do not like the "we are sane, they are crazy because:" approach to anything. its not really because i care about peoples feelings, its because i care about how people feelings can impact what i'm trying to accomplish divide and conquer is such a basic n true concept its p fnny really Worf fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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after 4 years of trump, i for one, find the term alien conspiracies offensive
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Who What Now posted:My dad a few years ago got a job in his factory in the tool closet or whatever signing in and out parts and tools for other workers. It gives him lots of time to browse random YouTube videos on his tablet and I was terrified he'd become a chud but instead he's been watching anime on Netflix and I wonder which is worse maybe hes watching right wing anime
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Carwash oval office posted:Is he posting about it on facebook? As long as it is contained, I think anime is fine. ngl somebodys dad posting about anime on facebook "at our age" is funny to me more than anything
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Meloncholric posted:i want to hit you over the head with a xbox ngl you may have found the best use for them
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Fiddler on the Reef posted:That's pretty awful and I hope you reconsider once your kid is vaxed. One of the rare posts where I can't tell if I'm blazingly stupid and not following correctly or you actually think a familial relationship constitutes reason to put the rest of the family at risk. This is a pandemic. People need to start treating it like one.
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Fiddler on the Reef posted:see that's the thing: "might". if you want to be logically consistent, you would never let your kid go into a car since that might hurt them. They shouldn't be let outside because something might happen. You can't make a blanket statement like that without assessing the relative risk. it seems logically consistent that a person that isnt doing what they can to protect themselves in the first place is also exposing themselves to it unnecessarily. vaccinated people can carry and transmit covid. the parents are not only looking after themselves but also anybody else that should be reasonably expected to want insulation from the pandemic. i don't actually think society has room for your opinion on this lmao also, just because somebody is a grandparent doesn't mean their presence in anybody's life is inherently beneficial. doubly so when you elect to parrot and follow right wing talking points that are killing people 
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ben shapino posted:cars are incredibly dangerous and should probably be banned. agreed. yeah its crazy how people can mitigate necessary risks or choose which risks are essential for their lives. i dont go driving out in snow storms because inclement weather is less safe and not necessary to be involved with. so are inclement immune systems
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Aug 5, 2021 17:05
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Mafic Rhyolite posted:Lmao if youre going to parrot nazis you should just get treated like one people need to start getting ostracized more for these things. its really the point of the thread, tbh
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ok fine i retract the nazi parrot remark. you're just echoing a false narrative propagated by a group of people that have no adherence to science(when convenient), little interest in human rights beyond their own, are actively engaged in the literal actual disenfranchisement of anybody that disagrees with them- and continuing generations long efforts at sustained disenfranchising historically marginalized people. their efforts to perpetuate systems and machinations that are designed to lessen the existence of people they deem unfit makes them, their ilk, and most things tangentially related to them- disagreeable. i mean that barely even qualifies as an abridged version but i guess if invoking nazis is counter productive, i can adapt
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hawowanlawow posted:the coming black uprising i wish at first i thought you were talking about a cool relative then i realized they were not supportive of that 
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Skypie posted:My wife's parents have always been conservative but went nuts with posting Prager U stuff and defending Trump and being generally awful to the point my wife straight up told them if they continue to be hateful, she's going to cut them out of her life I think wife's feelings are justified I'm not sure what a mini breakdown is but being in an elevated emotional state bc your family is existentially toxic seems reasonable I say good job wife for being brave n making a difficult choice E: also it's a shame that trying to treat places of worship exactly like they should be- agnostically- (closing them for safety) was met w cries of persecution and probably hampered vax and mask efforts Worf fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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My director hired a motivational speaker who ended up just reminiscing about all the drugs and romance he had in prison It was awesome. My director never put on a similar event again
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Dear Watson posted:Oh I had a friend from college that last year used to post tons of acab and BLM stuff during the riots. I was like hell yeah! Weird n sad
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Tyler the creator, so prescient We simply misunderstood what he meant by cyber bully But he knew
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Derpies posted:So my insane conspiracy but friends who’ve poisoned all their kids with brain worms have had the college there daughter goes to require vaccination now. The daughter had gotten a full ride so basically guaranteeing she drops out now. so mormons that dont need gainful employment?
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i dont really gently caress w social media much anymore. i was at a friends house and they were scrolling through FB on their laptop and i was like yo, i dont miss seeing peoples dumbshit fuckin thoughts or just scrolling through all the dumb poo poo. i hate being on some internet treadmill bullshit like a webring you dont even know you're flippin thru i guess i do use twitter for news occasionally tho come to think of it but yeah all the """"dogwhistle"""" poo poo during the Obama presidency p much soured me. not even from my friend group just on like, comments in articles n poo poo
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Scathach posted:My MIL didn't come to our wedding. Because I don't get along with her creepyass abusive Trumper older son, and instead married the son that doesn't take her (terrible) advice, she's disowned us. My husband just found out his family is moving to another state and weren't going to tell him. They call him "the orphan" now because he chose a woman that doesn't out up with their abusive poo poo. I knew they were terrible people but didn't realize how bad. Good loving riddance, Candy Crane. Glad your mom gave you a lovely name. F them anyway tbh gj not taking older brother in law's bullshit
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My parents came almost 3000 miles to visit me and I turned them away at the door for being unabashed republicans that either lament " things being politicized" or alternatively mention how little they pay attention to current events Literally spent a small fraction of an hour with them on a trip they thought was gonna be for the entire summer E: also I have 4 parents and don't bother to distinguish which pair im talking about, but 2 were born in USA and 2 were born in south America and so if people are wondering how I can have separate but equal stories of republicans and socialists this is why Worf fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Martman posted:Did they not even warn you they were coming? They did
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Arven posted:It was brought up on like page two, but someone mentioned how these people have no hobbies and I really really think that's what is going on here. The pandemic cut people off from their actual hobbies, and even if their hobby was just watching TV they basically had no new content for a year. Watching fox news/youtube conspiracy videos became their hobby for lack of anything else to do, and it's fully consumed them. It's the exact same thing as people who get so into being a furry that they walk around in public with cat ears and a tail. Trumpism is a fandom. A quick google shows I'm not the first person to realize this, and holy gently caress it fits so well. This has been a problem for years and years and decades that far predates the pandemic really Let me tell you it's not because they're bored it's just because they're racist f****** assholes with a low IQ
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I festoon myself with rainbows so people don't mistake me for a bad person
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Arven posted:You're both absolutely correct in that they've always been racist morons. However the entire republican party believing the conspiracy horseshit that they do now is absolutely a new thing, and I'm proposing that the fact they didn't have anything to keep their simple brains occupied for the last year and a half helped usher in their new beliefs. We have been heading that way since Obama took office, but covid hit the fast forward button. What we're seeing with them now is new to the last few years, as per the thread title, yeah? Demonizing people of color for generations et al is no different than buying into conspiracy theories. This is the logical extension of what happens when it's no longer frowned upon to say the bad words out loud It was always there, the evidence is basically in years and years of justifying the vast amounts of machinations in place to solidify white males as the dominant power Just as it still is being used for today Red scares, war on drugs, it's all the same poo poo
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