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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



:siren:NO SPOILERS.:siren:





What happens when your long-running franchise finally achieves mainstream success after 10 years, just as you've definitively wrapped up your main protagonist's character arc? You introduce a new one and do a soft reboot! Yakuza: Like a Dragon is the eighth mainline title in Ryu ga Gotoku Studio's Yakuza franchise, starring newcomer Ichiban Kasuga in a whole new saga.

On New Year's Eve of 2001, the Arakawa family of the Tojo Clan finds itself in dire straits - a high-ranking member of the family has murdered a lieutenant of a rival family. Ichiban, eager to repay his patriarch for everything he's done for him, takes the fall, and is locked away in prison for 18 years.

Upon his release, Ichiban realizes that the world has changed while he was gone and everything he knew has been turned upside down. Kamurocho, the traditional setting of the series, has been taken over by the Omi Alliance of Kansai, and his beloved boss is now the head of the Arakawa family of the Omi.



This will be an informative LP where I show off the main story and as much content as I can manage. I'm joined by my usual co-commentator sworn brother Jobbo_Fett, who has actually played this game so is not flying blind this time around. Even so, let's try to keep things spoiler free for this game and anything else in this franchise. Ichiban's story is pretty much a clean break from everything that came before, so people who haven't played any of the other games should be able to jump in without really spoiling much of the other games! If you do want to find out what happens in some of the other games though, we have done several LPs of other games in this series, which are linked below. As for this LP, we'll shoot for two updates a week. This game is incredibly long and we have a ton of ground to cover.



Chapter 01 - Light and Shadow


Chapter 02 - Bloody Reunion


Chapter 03 - The Town at Rock Bottom



Chapter 04 - The Dragon of Yokohama



Other Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio LPs we've done
Yakuza 0 (Cut commentary)
Yakuza Kiwami (Cut commentary)
Yakuza Kiwami 2 (Cut commentary)
Judgment (Cut commentary)

ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Sep 24, 2021

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



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PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


The first Yakuza game to have an undiagnosed schizophrenic as the main character, looking forward to it. I just beat it myself about a month ago, but it'll be fun to see if I missed anything interesting.

theenglishman
Jun 24, 2009



That reminds me of that one episode of Star Trek where Sulu saw his father get shot in the face and then took over a yakuza clan.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

It would be a sad error in judgement to mistake me for a corpse.


Clapping Larry

Awww poo poo here we go again...

EricFate
Aug 31, 2001

Crumpets. Glorious Crumpets.

Going into this blind ... you are in for SUCH a treat.

theenglishman
Jun 24, 2009



Regarding the "end of the 21st century" stuff as discussed in the first video - there is actual debate over whether a new decade starts on year 20X0 or 20X1. It's one of those silly "is it a gif or jif?" arguments that can be very serious business for some people.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

This statement is a lie!


Nani!? English voice acting in a Yakuza game!?

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.


Solitair posted:

Nani!? English voice acting in a Yakuza game!?

And the VA knocks it out of the loving park. Although so does the original, to be fair.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


I think the only bad English Yakuza VA I can recall in the games I've played is Hamill's Majima, which is weird, because Hamill is usually a drat good VA.

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010




I'm still on the fence wrt buying this game, mainly because of the combat system. Seeing it in action like this will definitely help me make a decision.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


Geemer posted:

I'm still on the fence wrt buying this game, mainly because of the combat system. Seeing it in action like this will definitely help me make a decision.

Personally, despite liking the game, I felt like the combat system was probably the weaker part of it. It was very close to breaking out of the generic jRPG mold, and while it's not bad, it's just a hair's breadth shy of being really good, which is a shame.

achtungnight
Oct 4, 2014

Adequacy Achieved!

So youíre just skipping Yakuza3-6? Donít blame you, Yakuza 7 is better than all of them put together. Enjoy yourself! I will enjoy watching. :D

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



achtungnight posted:

So youíre just skipping Yakuza3-6? Donít blame you, Yakuza 7 is better than all of them put together. Enjoy yourself! I will enjoy watching. :D

I'll get around to those eventually, but I was just so enraptured by this game that I immediately wanted to get to work on doing an LP, just like with Judgment, haha. Since this game's more or less a soft reboot with few story ties to the original game, I figured I could give Ichiban a spotlight sooner rather than later.

Geemer posted:

I'm still on the fence wrt buying this game, mainly because of the combat system. Seeing it in action like this will definitely help me make a decision.

The combat system's got a few odd warts, since they pivoted to this genre like 8 months out from release, but its pretty fun if you're ok with a relatively basic turn based JRPG battle system. It reminds me a bit of Chrono Trigger's system.

Solitair posted:

Nani!? English voice acting in a Yakuza game!?

Judgment and Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise also had English VA! According to Scott Strichart, they had enough data to show that not having a dub was a significant barrier to entry, so they tested the waters with those two games and the reception was solid enough that they went for it here too! And they also have some improved animation tech that lets the models better match the English dialogue with mouth flaps!

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP



Its really obvious how low down on the ladder Ichi is compared to Kiryu. Hes practically a nobody working the dregs of Kamuro.

achtungnight
Oct 4, 2014

Adequacy Achieved!

Here's some more comments now that I've watched the video.

I like to think Mitsuo's back tattoo is the same as the phoenix on his jacket, for an obvious gag should we ever see that tattoo.

Jo Sawashiro is voiced by Brian Bloom. He's my personal favorite character in the game.

In an alternate universe, Captain Sawashiro is very happy Ichi got the guy's wallet. He uses the credit and ID cards within to totally scam and ruin the poor man. Ichi naturally is not told about this.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.

My friend has been trying to get me to play this ever since it came out last year. So I'm very keenly interested to see where it goes!

White Coke
May 29, 2015


Apart from this game and Resident Evil 7, are there any games thatíve combined the Japanese and non-Japanese titles?

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




It's on like Donkey Kong as they say.
Have had a bunch of friends rave and gush about it and I've seen bits here and there so this will be interesting.

azren
Feb 13, 2011




I remember watching Yahzee's review of this, and thinking it sounded pretty amusing. Looking forward to this, this series has always sounded like a weird blend of serious crime drama and wacky antics.

theenglishman
Jun 24, 2009



azren posted:

I remember watching Yahzee's review of this, and thinking it sounded pretty amusing. Looking forward to this, this series has always sounded like a weird blend of serious crime drama and wacky antics.

7 is a great starting point for newcomers. Its tone is very emblematic of the franchise, and itís a proper sequel that doesnít require any knowledge of the previous games, without breaking continuity.

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


theenglishman posted:

Regarding the "end of the 21st century" stuff as discussed in the first video - there is actual debate over whether a new decade starts on year 20X0 or 20X1. It's one of those silly "is it a gif or jif?" arguments that can be very serious business for some people.
As far as I can see, it all has to come down to how they're named. So when you say "the 20s" that has to include all years in the relevant century that end 2n, eg. 2020 to 2029. Whereas if you say "the third decade of the 21st century" then that comes down to when the 21st century started - which is 2001 - so that would be 2021-2030. Same goes for centuries.
    The 18th century: 1701-1800
    the 1700's: 1700-1799
Millennia only really get referenced in terms of ordinal numerals, so the third millennium is always 2001-3000. Which is why the correct name for the big computer problem that everyone was concerned about in 1999 is the Y2k bug, not the millennium bug. It related specifically to the rollover to the year 2000, not the end of the millennium.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


azren posted:

this series has always sounded like a weird blend of serious crime drama and wacky antics.

"I have to prove my innocence and restore JUSTICE to the yakuza!"

"Right after I help this kid buy a jRPG."

"Right after I help Putin become a pasta chef."

"Right after I buy skin mags for these children."

"Right after I race with these little cars."

"Right after I play grabber games to make this little girl happy."

"Right after I deliver this pizza."

"Right after I figure out how the gently caress Mahjong works."

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.


Kiryu is bad at crimes.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather


Oh hell yes!

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


Fat Samurai posted:

Kiryu is bad at crimes.
More than that, he doesn't really seem to understand what the yakuza is. He's surrounded by all these guys who want to get rich and powerful by doing crimes, and he's like "I joined the yakuza to help people." He'll do crimes - no problem - but not for immoral reasons.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

It would be a sad error in judgement to mistake me for a corpse.


Clapping Larry

Kiryu?

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


Tiggum posted:

More than that, he doesn't really seem to understand what the yakuza is. He's surrounded by all these guys who want to get rich and powerful by doing crimes, and he's like "I joined the yakuza to help people." He'll do crimes - no problem - but not for immoral reasons.

I mean, yes, he WILL do crimes, but most of what he does is entirely legal, depending on how limiting Japan's self-defense laws are.

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


PurpleXVI posted:

I mean, yes, he WILL do crimes, but most of what he does is entirely legal, depending on how limiting Japan's self-defense laws are.
Also depending on how much of what the player experiences is canonical. Is he actually stabbing, shooting and beating people unconscious, or are we supposed to understand that there was actually a brief scuffle in which no one was seriously hurt? The gameplay and cutscenes present two very different narratives.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!


Tiggum posted:

Also depending on how much of what the player experiences is canonical. Is he actually stabbing, shooting and beating people unconscious, or are we supposed to understand that there was actually a brief scuffle in which no one was seriously hurt? The gameplay and cutscenes present two very different narratives.

Hey, Kiryu has never killed anyone.

Ever.

Especially not those 200 or so people he's gunned down during car chases, and all those other people he shot and stabbed were just mildly embarrassed and recovered once the bruises went away. Just like how none of the necks Majima's snapped ever killed anyone.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



ally_1986
Apr 3, 2011

Wait...I had something for this...


I picked up Judgement based on your LP and loved it. Was hoping you would get around to this.

Still on the fence about getting this due to the change in the combat. Would like to hear if people like it or no?

Can anyone explain the whole deal (or link any good articles) about these drinking clubs(what is the proper term)? Is it more about companionship? I find it really odd and fascinating. I have many questions!

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather


ally_1986 posted:

I picked up Judgement based on your LP and loved it. Was hoping you would get around to this.

Still on the fence about getting this due to the change in the combat. Would like to hear if people like it or no?

Can anyone explain the whole deal (or link any good articles) about these drinking clubs(what is the proper term)? Is it more about companionship? I find it really odd and fascinating. I have many questions!

They are called "Host(ess) clubs" and are featured quite extensively during the series, especially in Yakuza 0. Basically, Japan has quite prude laws against pornography and prostitution. The free market tried to move around it and to fill the demand with the given supply. That's why there are countless businesses, which aren't real prostitution but as close to it as the law allows.
The clubs themselves are (baring backroom dealings) just that. You go in there, and a bunch of pretty girls party with you and goad you into spending excessive amounts on food and alcohol for the table and give huge tips. It's a prude strip club.

I don't want to demean women in that industry. I guess you need more than just looks to manipulate patrons, which is a skill.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Aug 8, 2021

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP



The Japanese sex business has tried to exploit as many loopholes as they could find.
Another example of this are Soaplands, which got mentioned in the first episode, specifically shangri-la. Customer comes in, pays for a bath, then a massage with a happy ending, except on the books they only paid for the massage, and the sex happened of the masseuses discretion after they get 'acquainted' with the customer, so its not 'prostitution'.
Though from what I know japanese law against prostitution is kind of strange and oddly specific. In that prostitution is specifically 'Paid penetrative sex between two strangers'.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 8, 2021

achtungnight
Oct 4, 2014

Adequacy Achieved!

The new combat system took some getting used to- I hadnít played any turn based RPGs in a long time. But the characters are fun enough you want to learn how to fight as them. So it wasnít too bad. There were certain fights I wanted to be more challenging but that may have been because I played on Easy. Other fights I wished were less repetitive, but thatís a common issue with this type of game.

White Coke
May 29, 2015


I assume the Omni alliance taking over Kamurocho is how the game justifies everything being covered by waist high grass.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



achtungnight
Oct 4, 2014

Adequacy Achieved!

Sorry, Ichiban, it's quite hard to find somewhere to get a duck and a hose at this hour. A duck, anyway.

Hmm, the last time a protagonist in this series unjustly went to prison for a best friend, he ended up Chairman of the Clan. Wonder if this will work out as well.

I too enjoyed the pun enemy names.

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Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




So is the main bad guy going to be all about how goose is so much better than duck?

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