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Leperflesh posted:I was on a road trip and busy and did not catch any of the draft, how did my 49ers do? I think they didn't even have a first round pick right. They did not. They drafted some receivers, edge rusher and a 3rd round RB. They also got Mr. Irrelevant who is another QB so I guess there's some competition for the backup spot.
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OGS-Remix posted:They did not. They drafted some receivers, edge rusher and a 3rd round RB. They also got Mr. Irrelevant who is another QB so I guess there's some competition for the backup spot. And some DBs and IOLs. They covered all their needs, but how well they did 
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Peachfart posted:Kiper thought drafting Wilson in the 3rd was a terrible waste, I wouldn't pay attention to anything he says. is this true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIpsbN1kqbQ Kiper explicitly states that Wilson is the perfect test case for if a QB under 6' can succeed, because he's an otherwise great prospect e: "If he was 6'2" he'd be a top ten pick" "I love Russell" "Played behind the tallest line in college" "if you were grading his character from 0-10 he'd be a 15" e2: good to see ole' Coked up Gruden at the draft lol Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 15:41 on May 3, 2022 |
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shocked and appalled about the low-grade beaver tranquilizer https://twitter.com/DeAndreHopkins/status/1521301792176283649?s=20&t=fLaStqFwRw_HNPa__sJ3Cw
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Ornery and Hornery posted:is this true? Oh poo poo, I have misremembered this for nearly a decade, lol. Sorry about that, I wonder who it was that was making GBS threads on Wilson that I confused for Kiper.
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Peachfart posted:Oh poo poo, I have misremembered this for nearly a decade, lol. Sorry about that, I wonder who it was that was making GBS threads on Wilson that I confused for Kiper. I don’t know who you’re thinking of, but if you want to enjoy a lot of really dumb tweets about it, here you go. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.thecomeback.com/freezingcoldtakes/nfl/russell-wilson-drafted-mel-kiper-others-saw-seneca-wallace-type.html There’s a whole lot of “but what about Matt Flynn?!!!” in there that is extremely hilarious in retrospect.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:There’s a whole lot of “but what about Matt Flynn?!!!” in there that is extremely hilarious in retrospect. https://twitter.com/mflynn3/status/1475836675070779397?t=MmQqayVESV2NDg7YoW-QOQ&s=19
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Play posted:I have no clue what to think about the Rams draft. I don't know anything about most of those guys. It was a very Rams draft but I will say I don't think they helped themselves all that much. The Rams seem really good at developing o line so I'll trust them on that, the rest of the picks were whatever. Logan Bruss seems like the prototypical McVay guard, able to move around in space and perfect for zone blocking. Needs better footwork and hand placement techniques. The running back they took is a slower, power running kind of guy who apparently is good in pass pro? The corner I've seen compared to Courtland Finnegan, a true nickel guy who is good in run support. The rest is probably depth/development guys, the OLB they took has off the wall athletic testing numbers and was super productive in college but went to an FCS school. It was a very Rams draft which means the 6th round safety they took will start 68 games in his first 4 years and sign a 15 million a year deal in Jacksonville in 2026. Nit Wit Dog poo poo posted:Rams UDFA signings: Dicker the Kicker! Really surprised they didn't sign another QB, maybe they are planning to give Luis Perez another shot once the USFL is done.
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Tank44 posted:Was away on vacation the past week but still got to follow the draft in mexico. I am all abroad the Seahawks draft. Wanted OT/DE with the 1st two picks. Was surprised by The RB pick but am OK with it. We need RBs to :run: A local OT in 3rd round that could have gone in the 2nd, I am starting to sour on the RB pick. Read an article yesterday that basically outlined the “optimal” usage of cap space would be to draft another OT and get an RB in FA. The reason being that the 41 pick costs the same regardless if it is RB or OT and FA RB contracts are significantly cheaper. Made good sense and the only reason to not focus on best value per cap space would be if you hated all the FA RBs. So, this is really, Pete got excited about a guy and the only way to get good value (comparative to drafting a lineman) out of him is is if by year 2 he is a top 5 RB. I guess we will see. My season ticket upgrade was yesterday and got to move to the front of the section and closer to the middle of the field. My wife hated the choice afterwards because we are going to be too close to the aisles so I guess I hosed up. nollij fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 4, 2022 |
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going into day 3, I was hoping for either of the 2 CBs drafted in the 4th and we end up with both.
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people becoming obsessed with value and efficiency. RB is necessary for the offense to go. FA RBs and who you have on the team are not reliable enough to make the offense go. Pete wants to establish the run and needs a top tier runner. Swinging at that with your 3rd pick is way better than swinging at a QB or whatever is "optimal"
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Swinging in a qb in this class would suck. Using that second round pick on any other premium position (assuming it’s a prospect actually estimated to be valued as a second rounder) would be better than spending it on a second. One of the reasons to not take rbs high is because good rbs can be found later. Which is actually super super important and valuable because most 5-7 rounders struggle to even make the roster. But serviceable rbs can come from those rounds. It turns late round picks from almost worthless to actual value if you use them on RBs.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:One of the reasons to not take rbs high is because good rbs can be found later. Which is actually super super important and valuable because most 5-7 rounders struggle to even make the roster. But serviceable rbs can come from those rounds. It turns late round picks from almost worthless to actual value if you use them on RBs. This doesn’t seem true at all. You can find “a guy” but you can also find “a guy” to be your third string MLB or swing OL in those rounds as well. You’re rarely finding a difference maker. http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb You’ve got to go back to maybe 2017 and Aaron Jones to find a guy taken in those rounds that I’d actually consider good for the position rather than just replacement level from the UFA stockpile.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Swinging in a qb in this class would suck. "serviceable" is not good enough for the Seahawks offense that wants to lead the league in rushing. You gotta have that no bullshit actually good RB. Walker looks like he could be that guy more than penny did when he was drafted. I am excited to see how preseason works out cause penny did look decent and they could be a good 1 - 2 punch on a run first offense. I need a list of "good" RBs from the 4th round and back to assess that, but the a lot of the best RBs, (Jonathan taylor, Nick Chubb) all came in the 2nd round. Carson im pretty sure is dead.
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nollij posted:My season ticket upgrade was yesterday and got to move to the front of the section and closer to the middle of the field. My wife hated the choice afterwards because we are going to be too close to the aisles so I guess I hosed up. I'm in 314 and on the aisle. I love the aisle as you have more space and less annoyed by moving for someone to get by than be that person having to get past everyone . I've had my same tickets for 17 seasons now and have built a family around us.
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2021 RBs, Top 8 by Y/A Conditions:
pre:Player Team Y/A Round Overall Good QB? Past Wildcard? Jon Taylor IND 5.5 2 41 No No Nick Chubb CLE 5.5 2 35 No No Miles Sanders PHI 5.5 2 53 No No Dalvin Cook MIN 4.7 2 41 Meh No Elijah Mitchell SFO 4.7 6 194 No Yes James Robinson JAX 4.7 UDFA UDFA No No Aaron Jones GNB 4.7 5 182 Yes Yes Damien Harris NWE 4.6 3 87 No No 1. lol Urban Meyer 2. Teams with good OL have good RB production 3. Teams with good offensive coaching have good RB production 4. I had not paid attention to Damien Harris 5. Trevor Lawrence was 32nd in passing yards per attempt in 2021. Lawrence averaged 6.0 yards per attempt. Further research I will do more seasons.
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I say take your formula and expand it to the last ten years (big ask I know, five if that's better for you), and instead of a game limit put a minimum of 700 yards on the season
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Shanahan guys are almost cheating. He can get production out of almost anyone but also does the platoon thing to keep guys fresh, so it doesn’t really make sense for the 49ers to spend high on a guy who is only going to get a 3rd of the workload. That said, they also lose half their backfield every year and spent a 3rd on Ty Davis Price so maybe he’d like to have a bellcow back if he can find one that can stay on the field. I’d also prefer to see which guys show up year after year. Lots of guys have one good season and then get injured or sign with another team or whatever and are never heard from again. Even if you’re spending a late round pick on a guy you don’t necessarily want to treat them as disposable, you’d like to get more than one decent season out of them. And there’s other things too, that are hard to quantify. Does their pass blocking and route running ability allow them to stay on the field on 3rd down? Are they going to get run down from behind if they get behind the safeties? Will they shatter into dust if they care the ball more than 200 times?
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Oh gosh, what does it mean?  https://twitter.com/stragosaurus/status/1522052858098577408?s=20&t=fPbVVslhVqTwfVTfIaFPJQ I hope someone types up a 9,000 word article on the possible implications!
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Coldforge posted:Oh gosh, what does it mean? Seems good, to me, if you’re a 49ers fan who wants him to stay with the team.
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Coldforge posted:Oh gosh, what does it mean? He's in the stalking ex phase of the breakup, Coldforge.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:
That is a pretty good list of 2nd rounders. Although, I believe, Nick Chubb was the only one who was really productive in their rookie year (my optimism is not set on the playoffs for 2022 so meh anyway).
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Footbawwww How many years does Trent Williams have left in the tank ?
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Footbawwww He was still very good when he played last year, but injuries tend to snowball on a body that size. Niners are certainly considering their post Williams plans
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DariusLikewise posted:Really surprised they didn't sign another QB, maybe they are planning to give Luis Perez another shot once the USFL is done. Here's the rest of their UDFA's: Jamal Pettigrew, TE, McNeese State Lance McCutcheon, WR, Montana State Benton Whitley, OLB, Holy Cross Dion Novil, DL, North Texas Elijah Garcia, DL, Rice TJ Carter, CB, TCU Duron Lowe, CB, Liberty Jairon McVea, S, Baylor Luis Perez is "still on the board," but they do have Bryce Perkins as their third.
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Nit Wit Dog poo poo posted:The Rams have already waived TE Roger Carter, DB T.J. Carter, LB Andrzej Hughes-Murray, DB Dan Isom, WR Lance McCutcheon. Some of them are back! https://twitter.com/ramsnfl/status/1527038631772160000?s=21&t=-IwrNxOJXHKsIroD4yasTw
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DariusLikewise posted:Some of them are back! Yep. Came here to post the same. What the hell is the purpose of doing that? Is it a money thing?
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https://twitter.com/cmikesspinmove/status/1527359072579702806?t=dj9OMd8MFOx0CDeYYNhPhQ&s=19 Seatte IFA Aaron Badonkadonkor.
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seiferguy posted:https://twitter.com/cmikesspinmove/status/1527359072579702806?t=dj9OMd8MFOx0CDeYYNhPhQ&s=19 Well done, sir.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Barton sucks so bad Yeah. I wouldn't be opposed to a KJ reunion, but it seems like the Hawks aren't interested.
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shirts and skins posted:Yeah. I wouldn't be opposed to a KJ reunion, but it seems like the Hawks aren't interested. Last noise that came out was they wanted him back, but not on the field. I know former players aren't always great coaches, but I hope they can get him in the pipeline. KJ seems like a nice dude and he was an underappreciated piece of those great defenses.
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Lifespan posted:Carson missed that start of OTA (not surprising) and so did Penny (not surprising... but sigh). Penny is hurt lmao
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Bob Socko posted:Anyone know if this John Canzano guy is trustworthy? The name's vaguely familiar, looks like he's a Blazers commentator? Everyone has been waiting for this since Allen died, so not shocking.
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