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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

gently caress I am tired. thank gently caress itís friday tho

*does raise the roof hand signals*

:boom: maybe I will sleep tomorrow :boom:

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I was tired because I fell asleep reading my phone half sitting up in bed at about 2am and woke up in the same position

somehow without agony

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

6am
still havenít slept yet

pre-emptive tired-posting

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

farm time

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

on one hand farmers have turned what would be nice native land into a large messy cricket field
which is bad


but on the other hand we need them to survive

thankfully we will all be saved from farmers ravaging the land when we go communist because apparently everyone just wants to organise spaces and no one actually wants to do anything menial, saving us from the farmer

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

idk man.. eating usually makes me tired


surely youíre identical to me

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

this thread serves a purpose

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

yeah work sux

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

do you know what the problem is

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

there are three phenomenon that probably all occur
but a lot of people assume itís only the first one

carb crashes

large meals

most people get mid arvo energy slump anyway (siesta cultures obv worked this out centuries ago and embrace it rather than push thru it)


thereís a hypothesis that large amounts of carbs mean your body then has to dump a lot of insulin in the body which can lower blood sugars and blah blah thereís probably something in here because carbs defo do this to a lot of people, but the effect isnít as strong or simple as anti-carb people will say

also large meals in of themselves put the body into a rest and digest mode where energy is diverted to the GI system to digest food and itís kind of your bodies cycle (you can easily see this in large predator animals that embody the feast/famine dichotomy)


so even large low-carb meals can make ya tired


less carbs is usually always better in general unless
youíre training for something and smaller meals might be necessary to avoid the tiredness regardless




also you got family history of diabetes? coz i get those energy crashes worse than anyone else I know and I can look back at my pre-diagnosed days and remember feeling SOOOO exhausted - not tired - at that time of the day

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

here in nz we donít have ranch dressing and if you said ranch dressing someone else would just think you were talking about what moocow wears on the farm

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

ew lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

lol turn on your monitor

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

could have just-hosed-for-no-good-reason disease

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

yeah tired sucks but at least I can sleep when I lie down thank gently caress 🥵

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

i have to get up

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

iím not tired but I am about to get out of my car and walk into work and thatís the same thing

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

akadajet posted:

I canít even fall asleep if I drink too much. itís just tossing and turning

you release cortisol to counteract the depressant effect of alcohol but this can last longer than being drunk

so lying there, in the morning, hungover as heck, and the stress hormone is pumping thru your veins. you went to bed at 2am and itís now 5:30am and why the gently caress canít I sleep

itís going to be a long day

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

i stayed up too late

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Poopernickel posted:

I got about 7 hours of total sleep over the last two nights. I keep waking up at 2AM and I can't get back to sleep.

This is slowly killing my mind and body, and I don't know how to solve it.

are you in the US? can you buy melatonin ?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

i was loving around until 5am last night lol and woke up at 7 and now just realised iím about to do 6 days work in a row! what a dork

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Poopernickel posted:

Yes to both. Does that stuff really work? What kind of dosage do I want?

Sometimes I take 12.5mg of doxyamine (half tablet of unisom), and it knocks me the gently caress out. But I wake up groggy and cranky - hard to dad well the next morning.

melatonin can often help but ultimately depends on why someone isnít sleeping well

same with magnesium. itís an essential ingredient to a good sleep, but by itself isnít a sleep aid

give some melatonin a shot. its definitely a better approach than sedating antihistamines

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Roosevelt posted:

magnesium will give you the shits, too

only if you do it wrong

magnesium is always present as a salt and the other ion matters, some tend to cause constipation, others can tend to cause loose bowels, some have better absorption than others.. a good magnesium supplement will be a good blend of salts that minimise side effects

most of the time with most supplements you can easily compare value for money and just get the cheapest but with magnesium you sorta gotta get the good ones

apparently magnesium threonate is very good but we donít have it here so donít know so much about it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Beeftweeter posted:

idk about that but most magnesium you can buy for human consumption will make you poop

not instantly, though

no offence but who probably knows more about magnesium supplementation between you and me

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Silver Alicorn posted:

I need to figure out how to go to bed earlier

do you do drugs in the evening

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Silver Alicorn posted:

what, like mescaline?

amongst others, yes

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

post hole digger posted:

doctor's best brand magnesium uses magnesium glycinate lysinate chelate and i have found that it does not make me need to poop.

this is what I am talking about

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

reminder that magnesium is an essential ingredient to sleep

it doesnít make you sleepy but you canít sleep well without magnesium. itís always the first thing to address if youíre not sleeping well

some will act like a laxative - donít get that one

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Silver Alicorn posted:

I slept a good 8 hours last night and Iím already tired again.

have you considered if youíre low in iron

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

Silver Alicorn posted:

i'm probably low on most things

the effect from low iron - mild anaemia - isnít so much tiredness but exhaustion. doesnít matter how much you sleep, thereís just no gas in the tank.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

itís a pain in the rear end to supplement, maybe literally since it causes constipation, but it may be worth finding a solution

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

to get more light in your life surely you can just turn on your monitor

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