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Black August posted:okay so this is 'taking it too personally' and I am advising you to have FUN with the good game that is not actively hating on women, and just chill out I'm allowed to have opinions that aren't yours.
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Y'all, I'm not telling you how you should feel about the game when I tell you how I felt about the game. I know it's the internet, but c'mon, now.
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Nov 29, 2021 05:45
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LividLiquid posted:Y'all, I'm not telling you how you should feel about the game when I tell you how I felt about the game. You don't actually get to pull this card when you posted things like "And if that is what's interesting, why do you think so, and why poo poo on all the little girls who grew up with, or could grow up with, a protagonist who has their poo poo together outside of cutscenes?" That goes beyond giving your opinion and pretty bluntly trying to imply misogyny from people who liked the game.
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Nov 29, 2021 05:52
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Liquid has always been like this. Samus rules. Dread rules. Participation just leads to more derailing
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Nov 29, 2021 05:58
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oh they're an idiot freak, gotcha, thank you the best redemption for Other M's contemptible failure has been Dread Samus' complete no-sell of fear throughout the entire game, especially her absolutely incredible outrage and violence towards Raven Beak for having the NERVE to capitalize on his Chozo advantages to try galactic domination right at the end, seeing her starving hand grabbing for his terrified face like it was the last twinkie in the galaxy was a spine-tingler
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Nov 29, 2021 06:13
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LividLiquid posted:I wish I could agree, but this game, much like most of the last games, has been all about Samus being afraid. Pretty sure the only one this actually applies to is Other M and that's why people hate it so much. There's a big difference between Samus being afraid of something and pissing herself in terror as her character is treated like a beaten dog, and simply knowing she isn't ready to tackle a specific hazard yet and intelligently avoiding what would kill her until she's better equipped. If you'd rather the scenario involve her being able to tackle any hazard at any time with upgrades only making life easier instead of hard gating progress, then yeah I kinda agree that might be an interesting idea for a game but was never part of the series formula since the first. Swilo fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 08:39
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LividLiquid posted:That's just it. She did. I didn't, and that's what I didn't like. you're a huge loving dumbass who has basically zero media literacy
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Black August posted:seeing her starving hand grabbing for his terrified face like it was the last twinkie in the galaxy was a spine-tingler 
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Nov 29, 2021 12:13
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ImpAtom posted:Samus has literally never felt more powerful during standard gameplay than in Dredd. I genuinely am not sure what you are expecting short of something that is not Metroid. Grud, I would absolutely love a Metroidvania of Judge Dredd working his way up Peach Trees blowing up slomo labs and blasting the drokk out of perps.
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jackhunter64 posted:Grud, I would absolutely love a Metroidvania of Judge Dredd working his way up Peach Trees blowing up slomo labs and blasting the drokk out of perps. Melee counters have Dredd slam a perp on the floor and cuff them.
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Nov 29, 2021 12:42
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You don't get to say passive aggressive bs like this:LividLiquid posted:That's just it. She did. I didn't, and that's what I didn't like. And then act like you have the moral high ground: LividLiquid posted:Y'all, I'm not telling you how you should feel about the game when I tell you how I felt about the game. You c'mon now
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Nov 29, 2021 13:37
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 Behold, the actions of a woman rendered helpless with terror. Edit: The only person in-universe even suggesting that Samus is afraid or helpless is actively attempting to deceive and manipulate her. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 15:20
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girl dick energy posted:
Can you not FEEL the terror in her body language in this shot?   Let's not even mention the sheer terror she displayed when she delivered that axe kick onto Kraid's lower jaw and proceeded to pump missiles directly down his throat while forcing his mouth open for several seconds.
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Nov 29, 2021 15:58
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Poor samus, so terrified. So weak. 
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Nov 29, 2021 16:03
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i was one of the villains in Metroid Dread. mmy name was "Loser Fuckface Nerd " and my catchphrase was "i cant fight her! shes too strong".
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Nov 29, 2021 16:09
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RBA Starblade posted:i was one of the villains in Metroid Dread. mmy name was "Loser Fuckface Nerd " and my catchphrase was "i cant fight her! shes too strong". Escue, is that you?
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Nov 29, 2021 16:12
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TaurusOxford posted:Escue, is that you? Hhelp she keeps sparking me
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Nov 29, 2021 16:13
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Seriously, how do you not understand that running away from a currently impossible foe isn’t weakness, it’s loving common sense. If anyone really walked away from Dread thinking “wowowow they just can’t show Samus as a strong, independent woman” then I can’t help but imagine what hot takes they would drop about Fusion lmao. That game starts with Samus admitting “this is by far the weakest I’ve ever been and I’m supposed to deal with a version of me at my absolute strongest, shits hosed.”
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Nov 29, 2021 16:32
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TaurusOxford posted:Escue, is that you? I liked the space pirate logs in Metroid Prime that boiled down to "oh poo poo oh poo poo she's coming"
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Nov 29, 2021 16:58
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Kassad posted:I liked the space pirate logs in Metroid Prime that boiled down to "oh poo poo oh poo poo she's coming" I liked seeing this from both sides; the Chozo, wondering if they were seeing visions of the future with her arriving in a streak of burning vengeance vs the new interlopers…or the space pirates, immediately terrified that The Hunter had arrived, and OH GOD KILL HER ON SIGHT YOU IDIOTS 
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Kassad posted:I liked the space pirate logs in Metroid Prime that boiled down to "oh poo poo oh poo poo she's coming"  those logs were very good 
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Oxxidation posted:samus' first encounter with the EMMI reflects how you deal with them in-game as well. she shoots it with her beam, shoots it with her missiles, and when it no-sells both, she goes "well this isn't working" and then kicks it in the head and goes on the hunt for a tool that will. she's not helpless or vulnerable against the EMMI, she's just being smart As an aside, these cutscenes struck me as an odd bit of pacing. The instructional nature of the cutscene introducing the white EMMI is so obvious and natural both for the player and diegetically that it's easy to forget, like here, that it's not the typical player's first encounter with an EMMI. The first EMMI is the busted one that can't climb, and Samus never tries to shoot it with anything during its cutscene. It feels very vestigial, like the white EMMI's introduction was made first (possibly for the reveal trailer), but then they later decided they wanted an earlier introduction to the basics of the EMMIs and made the busted one, and forgot or didn't have time to move the cutscene's very simple lesson of "shooting this doesn't work, all you got is dodge and counter" from the white EMMI to the busted one. Player experience still works fine, it just seems so glaring that a slight design tweak would have laid the EMMIs out even more naturally.
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I Am Just a Box posted:As an aside, these cutscenes struck me as an odd bit of pacing. The instructional nature of the cutscene introducing the white EMMI is so obvious and natural both for the player and diegetically that it's easy to forget, like here, that it's not the typical player's first encounter with an EMMI. The first EMMI is the busted one that can't climb, and Samus never tries to shoot it with anything during its cutscene. It feels very vestigial, like the white EMMI's introduction was made first (possibly for the reveal trailer), but then they later decided they wanted an earlier introduction to the basics of the EMMIs and made the busted one, and forgot or didn't have time to move the cutscene's very simple lesson of "shooting this doesn't work, all you got is dodge and counter" from the white EMMI to the busted one. I think that is because the first is to tutorial the grab/escape mechanic. It is weird though.
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I Am Just a Box posted:As an aside, these cutscenes struck me as an odd bit of pacing. The instructional nature of the cutscene introducing the white EMMI is so obvious and natural both for the player and diegetically that it's easy to forget, like here, that it's not the typical player's first encounter with an EMMI. The first EMMI is the busted one that can't climb, and Samus never tries to shoot it with anything during its cutscene. It feels very vestigial, like the white EMMI's introduction was made first (possibly for the reveal trailer), but then they later decided they wanted an earlier introduction to the basics of the EMMIs and made the busted one, and forgot or didn't have time to move the cutscene's very simple lesson of "shooting this doesn't work, all you got is dodge and counter" from the white EMMI to the busted one. Adding to the above, you could argue Samus isn't sure what the droid is doing of yet narratively, so letting it get too close is a mistake anyone could make. The second time, there's zero doubt all of them are enemies, so time to open fire. EDIT: Also, ADAM did tell her in the intro to treat the Federation tech with care, so not the time to fire on them yet. bladeworksmaster fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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bladeworksmaster posted:Adding to the above, you could argue Samus isn't sure what the droid is doing of yet narratively, so letting it get too close is a mistake anyone could make. The second time, there's zero doubt all of them are enemies, so time to open fire. Right, all she knows going in is that they've lost contact, not that they've gone kill crazy. The first EMMI shows that they're hostile and incredibly lethal, the second shows that on top of that, they're also largely indestructible.
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The first emmi is missing an arm and face plate, so while being a threat, you already know there's a bigger fish out there
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Makes you wonder what busted it up in the first place. Kraid?. Certainly not chozo rocksteady and bebop.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B1beXTnvEI A good video worth watching.
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There’s art you get in the gallery that shows Raven Beak blowing that EMMI’s face off
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IDK if this is a thread that cares, but I completed my first Any% NMG speedrun of Dread. 2:31 IGT, which I'm pretty happy with, (especially since I broke from the route at the beginning because I hate those first two pseudowaves. They're a pain in the rear end to do with joycons.) Just IGT for now, because I regularly had to pause and check the routes and rewatch trick vids, but I'm pretty sure I'll be doing RTA within just another couple runs. This is my first time speedrunning a Metroid game. The movement just feels so good and the game rewards improvement. I'm pretty sure I could shave off half an hour just from learning how to evade and run through enemies more effectively.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Makes you wonder what busted it up in the first place. Kraid?. Certainly not chozo rocksteady and bebop. You get this in the post-game images for item completion. 
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Holy poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N63Ot1bRkrs
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I had to watch it twice to catch it. Holy crap!
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Replaying, can confirm game still rules
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Kind of incredible that someone actually took the time to program that into the game simply because it makes physical sense.
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Someone in the comments on that video points out that the bridge and void below it where Samus first fights Raven Beak is flooded when you activate the water systems and come back.
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Kassad posted:I liked the space pirate logs in Metroid Prime that boiled down to "oh poo poo oh poo poo she's coming" The pirate logs in Prime are so good. Everyone knows the morph ball one but my second favorite was in Echoes when they realize Samus and Dark Samus are two different beings and they are just like "oh poo poo oh gently caress there are TWO OF THEM NOW"
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Ending for metroid 6: The federation has cornered Samus in a foundry! An android Adam implores her to turn herself in. "We'll extract the metroid dna from you! Don't worry we won't use it for evil!" Samus stares at him, then allows herself to fall backwards into a big smelting pot thing. "Nooooo!!" screams Adam. It's a long, slow, emotional shot with swelling music. Samus is wearing the gravity suit so she just walks away.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Seriously, how do you not understand that running away from a currently impossible foe isn’t weakness, it’s loving common sense. Heck if you want the "Samus is a loving dumbass" angle, there's the Japanese version of the Varia Suit segment in Other M which has you covered on that front.
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Araxxor posted:Heck if you want the "Samus is a loving dumbass" angle, there's the Japanese version of the Varia Suit segment in Other M which has you covered on that front. Wait, was that even worse originally? Because the localised one was pretty loving dumb. (I've probably forgotten tons of stuff about Other M like this)
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