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| War Horse |
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| Mr. Hands |
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Dr Christmas posted:I probably have COVID. I visited my sister this weekend, she texted me on Tuesday saying she got it, and now I have a fever and feel like poo poo. You realize the 'brain tickler' test isn't what you're going to have to do; you'll just be wiggling a q-tip just inside your nostrils maybe 1/4" and swirling it around, not trying to strike oil.
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Yeah they haven't needed to shove it 3 inches into your skull since like summer 2020.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:03
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Is brain-tickling not required for Binax tests? I've still been doing it and I hate it. If somebody is around to do it for me, it's okay, but doing it to myself is just terrible for whatever reason.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:06
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You only have to have the end of the swab covered, no brain tickling.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:31
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At-home RAT's only go up the nose like 2cm. Please read the manual.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:34
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James Garfield posted:You only have to have the end of the swab covered, no brain tickling. Needs to go in a bit deeper than that, though.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:35
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Just read the drat instructions people, please.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:35
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It's about as deep and uncomfortable as a good thorough nose picking session, and the reward is certainty about your covid status. Just get it over with
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Jun 23, 2022 20:37
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah they haven't needed to shove it 3 inches into your skull since like summer 2020. My hospital must just be sadists or something, they go for the brain tickle every single time (I haven't had a test since Fall 2021 there, but that was the case back then at least). But yeah, RATs only have to get to the "mildly uncomfortable" level. My 6 year old self-administers them and does a decent job.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:48
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haveblue posted:It's about as deep and uncomfortable as a good thorough nose picking session, and the reward is certainty about your covid status. Just get it over with Not really, unless your immediate result is positive. Rapid antigen tests are less sensitive for the Omicron variant compared to the Delta variant in nasal samples, especially in the first 1-2 days after infection. However, rapid antigen tests can more reliably detect infectious cases of the Omicron variant in combined oral-nasal samples. Individuals can collect these samples by initially swabbing both cheeks, followed by the back of the tongue or throat, and then both nostrils. The pooled sensitivity for the detection of Omicron infections is only 37.1% by RAT. Serial test on a negative result, while assuming positivity and taking appropriate precautions. Source: Use of Rapid Antigen Tests during the Omicron Wave
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Jun 23, 2022 20:58
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The worst part about swabbing my nostril is that it tickles and makes me sneeze. That's as uncomfortable as it gets, it's not going way up deep into your head.
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Jun 23, 2022 20:58
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spankmeister posted:Just read the drat instructions people, please. edit: quoted the wrong post i guess Binax test manual posted:To collect a nasal swab sample, carefully insert the entire absorbent tip of the swab James Garfield fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Jun 23, 2022 21:26
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Read the instructions that come with your test and follow those. That's how they were evaluated by the FDA or other relevant health authority in your country.
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Jun 23, 2022 21:57
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Stickman posted:Unless you need a positive test for work/school/whatever there’s nothing particularly wrong about just assuming you have it and acting accordingly. If it’s not COVID it’s most likely something else contagious! Just monitor your symptoms and talk to a doctor if you start feeling worse.
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Jun 23, 2022 22:59
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Two-and-a-half years in Europe without getting it, then three days in the USA, and I test positive (probably got it at the airport, but if I had to make a guess, it was in the interminable passport control line in the international arrivals section of the Seattle airport, that had a grand total of three booths open for four planes full of people). So our first vacation in nearly three years has been reduced to sitting in a hotel room watching Netflix.
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I have previously discussed a bill, the FDASLA (aka FDA Safety and Landmark Advancements Act), that includes provisions that will improve regulation of dietary supplements (thereby seriously undercutting groups like the alt-right, antivaxxers, Dr. Oz, and Alex Jones). The bill is going to pass, but it is not clear that the House will support these dietary supplement provisions in the final version. If you'd like the antivaxx movement or groups like the alt-right to lose a major source of funding, please contact your House of Representatives member and tell them you want the dietary supplement provisions from the senate version of the FDASLA bill in the final version. This is especially important if the Representative is on the House House Energy and Commerce committee, which is the one handling the bill. Context: this is a bill that has to pass every 5 years (it reauthorizes basic drug approval systems for FDA), so the inclusion of mandatory product registration requirements for dietary supplements is a critical chance to actually get these products regulated. This bill would make supplement companies send FDA their product information and label. That information goes into a public database (basically a public supplement registry), and FDA can instantly seize and stop supplements that aren't in that system. (It also means FDA will actually know what products are even on the market, since right now there's zero premarket approval or scrutiny for supplements) The short version is that the bill will let FDA crush fake Covid cures and other scam products much, much faster. The bill also includes a massive reform expansion of regulations on cosmetics products. The politics involved are complicated, but the short version is that it's worth making this call no matter what party they are a part of or where you live. This doesn't fall along the usual partisan or even industry lines, and hearing even a single call or email of public support could actually change whether this happens. Talking points: Here's the author of a similar bill talking about the need for supplement listing: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ynKOZAVMrzxR You can mine the video for talking points(it's a good watch), but some basic starters:
Cunningham offered some more general info about contacting a congressional office: cunningham posted:My own comments (as one who routinely communicates with congressional staffers): If you would like more specific info, context, or talking points for a particular office, PM me.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Two-and-a-half years in Europe without getting it, then three days in the USA, and I test positive (probably got it at the airport, but if I had to make a guess, it was in the interminable passport control line in the international arrivals section of the Seattle airport, that had a grand total of three booths open for four planes full of people). Sorry man, that loving sucks. At this stage in the game that's my biggest concern: not the virus itself but the moral/legal obligation to isolate if you have it. I'm going overseas for the first time since 2019 in a few months and I'm gonna go 100% hermit in the week leading up to departure.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I think the implication is that that a pandemic level where it was seen as completely fine and normal to support sterilisation of shoes and tins of food upon re-entering a house where your kids have been locked away for months have passed by. That yes, people are getting sick and some even dying (alongside other preventable deaths such as obesity, smoking, adventure sports, etc) but the absolute quality of life destruction (through direct disease effects and the control measures required) that was in effect in the before vaccine times is behind us. Not light switch "we all lived happily ever after" but "the worst has happened and the effects will linger but life goes on". Nurses figuring out proning significantly shifted the ifr. Vaccines did too. Deployed right- eg, when wastewater pops hot, local transition to a zero-contact economy and rollout of stockpiled vaccines- the vaccine could have significantly impacted r0. You wanna kick the virus in the junk with a 2-week zero-contact economy, then reinforce that with the 13-week immunity the vaccine provides. Instead, we did a slow roll out concurrent with exponential growth, failing to realize the potential benefit while allowing the virus ample opportunities to evolve to where the vaccine is less effective. So now it just takes the sting out of your (individual, not population) first (of, inevitably, many) exposure. The science all points to this contagion being a Final Boss, compared with West Nile or swine flu or h1n1 or bird flu or any of the other emerging diseases (save SARS-1) we've closely following during the life of this forum. Zika looked to be one that would impact quality of life in developed nations, but for some reason the encephalopathy in utero didn't pan out in rich white countries. And the initial presentation of covid absolutely confirmed the danger. I haven't run numbers or any analysis, but it 'feels' to me like the transition to covid being 'mild' corresponds to the global adoption of proning as treatment, more than vaccination efforts or the virus evolving away from deadlier expressions. The prevailing narrative groups people as vulnerable - immunocompromised, old, etc; and 'normal' people (who will all catch it, for which it will be mild, etc). There's a better way to think of it. There's the medically vulnerable - who the disease would kill; there's the SuperVectors - people that, in the course of a normal day, are likely to share air with dozens of people; and the remaining population has a sort of 'default' r0 around 1.1 (optimistically, 0.8) or so (conceptually, not empirically). Both the vulnerable *and* the supervectors ought mask (anytime they share air); vaccine deployments in response to waves (detected early, with sewer data) should focus on supervectors (whereas we favor medically vulnerable people - who are much less likely to be involved in superspreading). This, coupled with a timely transition to a temporary zero-contact economy - might (but probably isnt, and is less likely to be with modern variants and international travel) be enough to mute any local wave with the majority of people never receiving vaccines or wearing ppe. The supervectors instead were labeled 'front line workers' and praised and sacrificed as they spread it from the jet set to the medically vulnerable. No effort was made to differentiate FedEx delivery persons (who need not share air with anyone in the course of a shift) from grocery store cashiers (who cannot avoid it, without ppe); nor cops from nurses and teachers, nor snowplow drivers from Lays delivery truck drivers and insurance agents. Uglycat fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Uglycat posted:The science all points to this contagion being a Final Boss,
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Inferior Third Season posted:It could easily turn out to be a miniboss who eats through the resources of bad players so that the actual boss wipes them out immediately. Humanity is poo poo at the public health game. We've used up all our megalixirs on covid and barely have enough HP to scrape by the next few random slime encounters. If an actual Final Boss showed up, it's game over. Exactly right. It's mild. E: or, it was a final boss, and if we beat it we'd watch end credits where humans adapt to climate change with minimal loss of life, by mutual aid and universal access to free health care (that includes birth control), and abandon fossil fuels while pulling off acts of geoengineering and two thousand years from now historians pour through the somethingawful archives from the library of congress desperately looking for a thesis that hasn't already been done... But we lost the boss battle, and were in the 'bad ending' sequence presently. Uglycat fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Yeah covid is a gear check boss and we're severely under geared and underleveled. It could be a whole lot worse, but we cant stop standing in the lava.
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Jun 27, 2022 22:47
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Two more of my coworkers stood in the lava. 
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Jun 27, 2022 23:01
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Uglycat posted:Nurses figuring out proning significantly shifted the ifr. Vaccines did too. I’m not disagreeing with the gist of this, but wasn’t proning a fairly known and standard treatment from the beginning? I remember reading about it even during the early 2020 outbreaks in NYC/Italy as a effective method of treating patients who were at or near needing to be vented.
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Jun 28, 2022 01:10
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TheSlutPit posted:I’m not disagreeing with the gist of this, but wasn’t proning a fairly known and standard treatment from the beginning? I remember reading about it even during the early 2020 outbreaks in NYC/Italy as a effective method of treating patients who were at or near needing to be vented.
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Jun 28, 2022 15:51
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My partner has COVID right now. Is there a consensus on when it is actually safe to start seeing someone again after their diagnosis/symptoms? I recall reading that the CDC's guidelines were driven more by political necessity than science.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:My partner has COVID right now. Is there a consensus on when it is actually safe to start seeing someone again after their diagnosis/symptoms? I recall reading that the CDC's guidelines were driven more by political necessity than science. The old advice of "ten days after symptoms subside" seems pretty safe to me. That's how long we waited and I didn't get it.
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Jun 29, 2022 03:12
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10 days after you first get symptoms, but I'd give it a week after all the symptoms are gone. Technically you can never be 100% sure though.
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Jun 29, 2022 03:13
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So it sounds like a negative test or two isn't enough?
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Jun 29, 2022 03:39
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If it's PCR you're probably good to go imo
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Jun 29, 2022 03:43
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:My partner has COVID right now. Is there a consensus on when it is actually safe to start seeing someone again after their diagnosis/symptoms? I recall reading that the CDC's guidelines were driven more by political necessity than science. My husband had it and he isolated (away from me) for 9 days after first symptoms and positive home test and I didn’t catch it. He did have to go back to the office after the first 5 days, masked of course.
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Jun 29, 2022 04:04
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:My partner has COVID right now. Is there a consensus on when it is actually safe to start seeing someone again after their diagnosis/symptoms? I recall reading that the CDC's guidelines were driven more by political necessity than science. This gets touted around a lot but it's not entirely fair. People focus a lot on the 5 days but in actuality they say it's 5 days after symptom onset if you're fever-free for at least 24hrs and then 5 additional days of wearing a tight fitting mask to stop spread Of course most people only remember the 5 days and forget the other two things.
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Jun 29, 2022 05:34
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spankmeister posted:This gets touted around a lot but it's not entirely fair. People focus a lot on the 5 days but in actuality they say it's 5 days after symptom onset if you're fever-free for at least 24hrs and then 5 additional days of wearing a tight fitting mask to stop spread Yeah. The 5 day thing is 100% economic policy that has nothing to do with the progression of the actual disease. There is no scientific basis to it. Here's what it should look like: When you get a close exposure:
When you get a positive antigen test:
A positive PCR will tell you if you had covid, but not whether you are in the above 10 day window. You can still test positive for ~90 days on a PCR. The combination of a positive PCR + symptoms though is a pretty good sign that you're positive. If you follow the isolation guidelines and test daily you'll eventually probably overcome the lovely detection rate of the antigen tests.
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One difficult situation that screws with the timelines (and I haven't found any good advice for dealing with) is what to do for Paxlovid rebound infections. Day 10 after starting Paxlovid (which wiped out all symptoms by day 4 of treatment and had me testing negative on rapid tests from day 3-9), mild cold symptoms came back and I've tested positive on rapid tests for 5+ days. Best I can do is treat it like a new case and start the isolation process again, but it's rough because it's going to end up being 3+ weeks of quarantine.
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Insurrectum posted:One difficult situation that screws with the timelines (and I haven't found any good advice for dealing with) is what to do for Paxlovid rebound infections. Day 10 after starting Paxlovid (which wiped out all symptoms by day 4 of treatment and had me testing negative on rapid tests from day 3-9), mild cold symptoms came back and I've tested positive on rapid tests for 5+ days. Best I can do is treat it like a new case and start the isolation process again, but it's rough because it's going to end up being 3+ weeks of quarantine. I wonder if the answer to that will just be 'take it for longer.' It may be it just isn't getting enough time to wipe it out and its just suppressing it. Kind of like stopping your antibiotics after you start to feel better.
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So looks like we're getting an omicron booster in the fall. (from the ever informative YLE newsletter, really, go subscribe)quote:Does the committee recommend inclusion of a SARS-CoV-2 Omicron component for COVID-19 booster vaccines in the United States? Some notes: quote:The CDC also shared that the second booster is already making meaningful impact on death among those aged 50+. People vaccinated with one booster dose had 4 times the risk of dying compared to people with 2 booster doses. (Unvaccinated people had 42 times the risk of dying from COVID19 compared to those with 2 boosters). This is consistent with data coming out of Israel. quote:Clinical trials originally tested the effectiveness of a BA.1 booster formula against the BA.1/2 virus and it worked great. But since then, a new Omicron variant has come on scene (BA.4/5). Pfizer and Moderna presented new data showing that the BA.1 booster formula is also effective against BA.4/5, but the impact was less. This was regardless of age or previous infection. (This is what we expected, given that we are seeing Omicron mutate more to escape neutralizing antibodies, but overall good news.)
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Oracle posted:I wonder if the answer to that will just be 'take it for longer.' It may be it just isn't getting enough time to wipe it out and its just suppressing it. Kind of like stopping your antibiotics after you start to feel better. Fauci is infected and his first round of pax caused symptoms to stop and test neg, but then later symptoms and positive tests came back so now he's on round 2.
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droll posted:Fauci is infected and his first round of pax caused symptoms to stop and test neg, but then later symptoms and positive tests came back so now he's on round 2. yeah its the stopping and starting again later that's beginning to worry me, that's exactly how you create resistant strains.
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Jun 29, 2022 18:20
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Paxlovid for 5 days really isn't enough. I've heard countless examples of people rebounding like mine—anecdotally, way more than the 2% pfizer reported. I wonder if the increased infectiousness of the newest omicron variants have something to do with it.
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Oracle posted:So looks like we're getting an omicron booster in the fall. (from the ever informative YLE newsletter, really, go subscribe) This is interesting, thank you. I'm going to have to travel in late August/early September. I had been considering trying to get a second booster before that trip. Will I wish I hadn't if this Omicron booster comes out after I return? I don't know if getting two boosters within months of each other is bad or anything like that. Of course if the omicron booster is out by early August I'd just get that. But the phrasing makes it sound like it'd be later in the year most likely.
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incogneato posted:This is interesting, thank you. It won't be til fall, and I'm in a bit of the same boat, so I'm thinking I'm going to get the 2nd booster as well. Since they seem to be wearing off after 4 months if you get it now you'll be due again anyway by October. Remember: it takes two weeks after your booster for full efficacy so take that into consideration.
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