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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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OP UPDATED ON OCTOBER 13th

The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, or IATSE, is a union that represents various less-glamorous positions in the production of television and film in North America. For the first time in their 100+ year history, the IATSE may strike on October 18th if negotiations with the AMPTP, which represent the studios, do not result in an agreement. The driving force behind this potential strike come from streaming media becoming mainstream over the past 10 years while wages, hours, and opportunities have stagnated. Should October 18 come without a deal, pretty much all production will cease in North America, with some notable exceptions (HBO, Showtime, Starz, and other premium channels have different agreements with the IATSE).

Why is this different from the 2007-08 writer's strike? Well, unlike then, this strike includes camera crews, editors, and art directors, making even reality TV impossible. Essentially, if it's not ready for distribution when the strike starts, it won't be ready for distribution until the strike is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUO83uZxsrI

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Oct 15, 2021

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Mal-3 posted:

Any word on the vote yet?

We'll know fairly soon - the vote goes until tomorrow.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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You never want to strike, but sometimes you have to strike. Hopefully the AMPTP comes to their senses.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Yeah, unless it’s ready NOW, it’s not going to be ready until the strike is over.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Well it's only like 2-3 months before the winter olympics... Maybe this will make them actually cover more than ice skating and skiing?

The Winter Olympics are in Beijing - everything on NBC will be tape delayed.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I mean, that’s just one job being covered. Who’s going to edit the show?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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We’re still on the first page and people still aren’t reading the OP :negative:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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And I made a thread and everything!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Ratification vote begins November 12, with results coming out November 15. If there's no strike, you might as well unsticky this thread.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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There are a lot of pieces written about how the Rust incident could cause the union members not to ratify, but nobody knows for certain how the hundreds of thousands of individuals will act. Needless to say, they're more likely to not ratify now then they were when the union heads made the agreement with the AMPTP back on October 16.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Here's an important note from Deadline:

Opposition Growing To Proposed IATSE Contract As Members Prepare To Vote & Industry Faces Uncharted Waters posted:

There are actually two separate contracts up for ratification: the Basic Agreement, which covers 13 Hollywood locals, and the Area Standards Agreement, which covers 23 locals outside of Los Angeles. Opposition appears to be strongest among the Hollywood locals, which raises the possibility that the Basic Agreement could be rejected and the other accepted.

If either or both of the contracts are rejected, IATSE leaders could then ask the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to return to the bargaining table to try and come up with a better deal. The AMPTP doesn’t have to return, but if it does and refuses to budge – perhaps noting that IATSE leaders have already called the agreement a “landmark” deal “that meets our members’ needs” – IATSE president Matthew Loeb could then launch a strike on the contract that was rejected. Having received overwhelming authorization from the members to call a strike last month, he wouldn’t have to ask them again.

The industry would be in uncharted waters if one of the contracts is rejected and the other accepted by the members.

If the Basic Agreement is rejected and the Area Standards Agreement is accepted, a strike would shut down productions across the country because three of the 13 Hollywood locals – the Cinematographers Guild, the Editors Guild and the Art Directors Guild – have national jurisdiction, and they would be on strike everywhere in the country.

If, on the other hand, he Basic Agreement is accepted and the Area Standards Agreement is rejected, productions could continue in Los Angeles, but most shows shooting elsewhere around the country would be struck.

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Well, everything got ratified. Time to close the thread.

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