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Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.



Hey y'all, welcome to the couch coop thread. This OP is going to be short overviews from the perspective of someone decent at games who coops with someone bad at games. Every game mentioned is recommended to some degree. There will be tons I miss, especially FPSes, and you should absolutely post your own perspective on those. Let's get to it.

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This is what being bad looks like

Couch Coop Chaos, or Overcooked-likes
This genre is defined by
-Simple controls (usually single joycon-able)
-All players on a single unsplit screen
-A good plan and communication is stronger than flawless execution of a weak plan
-Generally played against the clock for points, other time pressure options are available.
-Usually up to 4 players, often designed for at least 2

Overcooked Series (All)
The genre definer, and still the greatest. All the pressure of working in a professional kitchen, with none of the pressure. All You Can Eat is an enhanced compilation with 1 and 2, all of the DLC, and a half dozen levels unique to it.

Moving Out (All)
Get everything into the moving truck as fast as possible, frequently by throwing the bed out of a second story window. A little more execution focused than Overcooked, but still very communicationy.

Very Very Valet (Switch)
A bunch of muppets are special agent valets. Not very communication focused, but by that token probably the best to play drunk out of your gourd.

Tools Up (All)
Interior decorator: the game. The most unique aspect is you can rotate the semi-fixed camera, and often have to in order to paint all of the walls. Not perfect, but you get a lot of game for your buck.

Out of Space (All)
Move into a proc-gen space apartment, clearing out hostile aliens as you go. Kind of light on content when I played it, but they've expanded it since. Arguably not CCC genre, but gently caress you, it's my post.

Other CCC
There are at least 4 straight up clones of Overcooked that I've seen, but Catastronauts is the only one that I think is worth playing. Think of the children is a nice way to spend a couple of hours. This Means Warp just released a demo. Unrailed was a bit too technical for us.

Adventure Games

It Takes Two (PC, PS, XB)
A coop adventure where you play as two parents transformed into dolls. Every level has unique gimmicks, and none of the gimmicks outstay their welcome. Same company also made A Way Out, which I haven't played but is supposed to be good coop too.

Phogs (All)
Absolutely adorable. Solve puzzles as a tube of dog in a brightly colored dream world.

Biped (All)
A pair of quite cute robots finding their way through a world. Kind of Wall-e-y.

Human Fall Flat (All)
Marshmallow people trying to physics their way around the world.

Lego series (All)
There are approximately one thousand games in this long running series, largely unchanged since the PS360 era. Just pick up Lego City Undercover or an IP that sounds good to you.

Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime (All)
Pilot a spaceship and man turrets in order to save the universe.

Chariot (All)
Get the dead king's wheeled coffin to a burial place his ghost finds satisfactory. If you liked ninja roping in Worms you'll enjoy this.

Other

Nom Nom Galaxy (PC,PS)
Build a soup factory while fighting off mercenaries from rival soup corporations. Eventually you can automate an impressive soup generating machine.

Heave Ho (PC, Switch)
Physics based game about throwing your friends to success. Got technical towards the end, but was good fun.

Snipperclips (Switch)
Take bites out of each other to make the right shape. Eventually opens into more dexterity based puzzles.

Good Job! (Switch)
Nepotism, yay! Do office tasks like install the fax machine, either while minimizing damage or breaking through walls and focusing on speed. My niece calls it "make a mess game"

Stardew Valley (All)
Pixel graphics Harvest Moon. I haven't played the coop, but many recommend it.

Jackbox series
Mostly not actually coop, these are collections of party games. I'm including them because the main goal is to have fun with friends, the points matter exactly as much as you want them to.

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Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters


Well, there's the Borderlands series, allowing you to play through the entire campaign of all four games with a partner (though it is split screen and so the UI is a bit of a pain to navigate).

The Earth Defense Force series as well lets you and someone else shoot thousands of giant insects, robots, frog aliens, diet Godzilla, UFO's, and bees with a wild array of weapons including a rocket that flies slower than walking speed that can level a city block, a machine gun that fires bullets faster than god, and what basically amounts to a handheld calliope. They're janky as hell, full of B-movie dialogue, and I love em.

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013





Castle Crashers is a great beat em up for coop.

Helldivers is pretty fun though it works better online where each player can have their own screen.

A lot of people like the quick and dumb action of Broforce but I don't personally enjoy it.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."





Grimey Drawer

Streets of Rage 4 is an amazing co-op brawler and should be on everyone's radar.

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



I played through ibb and opp with a buddy, and that was super fun. Itís a cute, chill platformer with some gimmicks

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004


Ultimate Chicken Horse was a great breath of fresh air for my group after completely exhausting Overcooked and Jackbox. Requires a little bit of platforming but is an extremely goofy and fun time that doesn't over extend its welcome.

The thing for games like Overcooked and Helldivers that I dislike is how they get progressively more difficult and takes actual coordination to complete. Lots of times it would be great at the beginning but then people start to get upset if you fail a couple times and need to really be serious gamers to beat.

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013





I love how tough Overcooked/Helldivers can get but I agree that they ramp up to that level too quickly. I'd prefer a lot more levels that can be played casually with separate challenge campaigns for when we want to really test our group.

Oh yeah, also add Cuphead to the list for the more difficult cooperative games.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000



Awesome, weíre always hunting for good couch co-op games! I have a few to recommend (hopefully others can help flesh out the descriptions a bit):

RPG
  • Divinity: Original Sin series (D:OS 1, D:OS 2)
    Excellent pair of RPGs that allows you and your partner to either work together or split up and go do your own entirely separate sidequests. Best-in-class for co-op RPG.

  • Salt and Sanctuary
    Basically a 2D Dark Souls-like. Thereís a bit of a procedure involved with enabling co-op for some reason, read about that here.


Platformer
  • Spelunky series (1, 2)
    Brutally hard but excellent procedurally-generated platformers. Spelunkyís pretty infamous and TBH Iím going to assume youíve already heard of it

  • Broforce
    Hilariously daft and over-the-top shooty mans action.

  • Caveblazers
    Procedurally-generated platformer in a similar vein to Spelunky but with a different vibe. I personally think Spelunky is far superior, but Caveblazers can be a blast as well.

  • Trine series (1, 2, 3, 4)
    Puzzle platformers where you and your partner switch between three characters with different skills. Iíve only actually played a couple of these and they were gorgeous at the time, donít know how well theyíll have held up though.

  • Guacamelee series (1, 2)
    Lucha libre-themed combo-based beat-em-up platformers.


Action
  • PixelJunk Shooter
    Action/puzzle game where you have to save the trapped explorers, fight enemies, and get to the exit of each level. Classic game stuff with slick controls that looks lovely

  • Monaco
    Stylish heist game that usually ends in chaotic attempts to escape after a bungled mission. Lots of different possibilities opened up by combinations of different character abilities and a real good laugh.

  • Magicka series (1, 2)
    Goofy wizarding with friendly fire enabled and a giant range of possible spells achieved by combining elemental effects. My partner didnít like this so I didnít get to play very much but it seems like a great time :(

  • Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes
    You and your partner work together to defuse a bomb; one person looks at the screen, the other person only looks at the bomb defusing manual. Youíll want a printer for the manual and a comfortable sofa to sleep on because Iíve never seen a game so certain to cause intense heated arguments ó enjoy!

  • Untitled Goose Game
    :honk:

TACD fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Oct 3, 2021

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

i love ye and i preciate ye and im thinkin bout ye ever day and night

There's a ton of games that draw on Gauntlet type mechanics, ranging from your very corporate polished Diablo 3 (note that the remaster of Diablo 2 does NOT have couch co-op), to the hip indie pixel art Children of Morta.

Good times.

Item Getter
Dec 14, 2015


Pikmin 3 split screen co-op was great.
Also Warriors/Musou games are nice chill split-screen co-op where you don't have to coordinate closely but both players can be off in different parts of the map completing different objectives but feeling like you are both contributing. Split-screen in some levels of Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity felt like it was killing the Switch though.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

On a planet that increasingly resembles one huge Maximum Security prison, the only intelligent choice is to plan a jail break.



There weren't many episodes with Couch Coop I don't think, but here's one that was particularly stylish

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

On a planet that increasingly resembles one huge Maximum Security prison, the only intelligent choice is to plan a jail break.



Item Getter posted:

Pikmin 3 split screen co-op was great.
Also Warriors/Musou games are nice chill split-screen co-op where you don't have to coordinate closely but both players can be off in different parts of the map completing different objectives but feeling like you are both contributing. Split-screen in some levels of Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity felt like it was killing the Switch though.

Many of the Musou games handle split screen by significantly reducing the number of on-screen enemies which kind of defeats the point of a Musou game :smith: My friend and I were both very into them but we would buy each new one and excitedly sit down to play co-op and end up thinking "Well this kind of sucks" when we would each only have 5-10 enemies on our screen at a time. It leads to a lot of situations where you do things like stand around a lot waiting for more enemies to appear on-screen so you can kill them, and fights against enemy generals often involve all the regular enemies disappearing until the officer dies. I wish I had a better sense of which ones handled it well so I could suggest them but I can't even find a list online, so if you're going to pick up a musou game for co-op I would suggest reading up on what co-op is like in that game first. There are some that are particularly worth avoiding co-op in. Warriors Orochi 3 for example - player 2 can't manage characters, leveling, equipment or switching weapons plus all the text and character portraits cover their screen almost completely.

But that being said yeah they're fun as hell co-op games if you're playing one of the ones that handled it well. I remember us getting really into Warriors Orochi 4 in particular but it definitely had enemy pop-in problems in co-op.

e: I think the spinoff IP games are particularly bad about co-op and the mainline Dynasty/Samurai/Warriors Orochi games are better for it (in general) because the spinoffs have a ton of other things going on to eat up system resources, but someone correct me if I'm wrong and there's a spinoff one that doesn't kill the console like Hyrule Warriors does. Persona Strikers might be a good co-op example (Haven't tried it) because it has fairly low-ish enemy counts in the first place and is more about making each fight a bit more nuanced than spamming you with larger numbers.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Oct 4, 2021

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters


Persona 5 Strikers doesn't have any coop at all - wouldn't really work, given how it's less a Musou and more a standard RPG with Musou-like combat.

Item Getter
Dec 14, 2015


deep dish peat moss posted:

Many of the Musou games handle split screen by significantly reducing the number of on-screen enemies which kind of defeats the point of a Musou game :smith: My friend and I were both very into them but we would buy each new one and excitedly sit down to play co-op and end up thinking "Well this kind of sucks" when we would each only have 5-10 enemies on our screen at a time. It leads to a lot of situations where you do things like stand around a lot waiting for more enemies to appear on-screen so you can kill them, and fights against enemy generals often involve all the regular enemies disappearing until the officer dies. I wish I had a better sense of which ones handled it well so I could suggest them but I can't even find a list online, so if you're going to pick up a musou game for co-op I would suggest reading up on what co-op is like in that game first. There are some that are particularly worth avoiding co-op in. Warriors Orochi 3 for example - player 2 can't manage characters, leveling, equipment or switching weapons plus all the text and character portraits cover their screen almost completely.

But that being said yeah they're fun as hell co-op games if you're playing one of the ones that handled it well. I remember us getting really into Warriors Orochi 4 in particular but it definitely had enemy pop-in problems in co-op.

e: I think the spinoff IP games are particularly bad about co-op and the mainline Dynasty/Samurai/Warriors Orochi games are better for it (in general) because the spinoffs have a ton of other things going on to eat up system resources, but someone correct me if I'm wrong and there's a spinoff one that doesn't kill the console like Hyrule Warriors does. Persona Strikers might be a good co-op example (Haven't tried it) because it has fairly low-ish enemy counts in the first place and is more about making each fight a bit more nuanced than spamming you with larger numbers.

Only ones we have played are Samurai Warriors 4 and Age of Calamity. Didn't notice any issues with SW4.

ultrachrist
Sep 27, 2008


It's a real bummer how rare split screen has become.

A big one not mentioned yet is: Don't Starve Together. Over the past several years it's become my wife's favorite game. Then, during the pandemic, we played a ton of it with another couple.

There's an annoying lack of split screen + online with another split screen. We've also done Castle Crashers and Nom Nom Galaxy which both support split screen/online.

DarkAvenger211
Jun 29, 2011

Damnit Steve, you know I'm a sucker for Back to the Future references.

My brother and I had been playing Kingdom Two Crowns while he was down and it's a pretty chill time. Very atmospheric and is very satisfying to build up a huge fort

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters


DarkAvenger211 posted:

My brother and I had been playing Kingdom Two Crowns while he was down and it's a pretty chill time. Very atmospheric and is very satisfying to build up a huge fort

Yeah until you get a huge wave of enemies and impotently watch as they destroy your poo poo :(

drat those big guys. Though it's funny how much easier it is with two players. Being able to be in two places at once makes that game far more manageable.

I think my gf and I are on the last island....really should finish it.

Pragmatica
Apr 1, 2003

what.


Nice, excited to follow this thread! I play a ton of coop games with my husband, and we are always on the lookout for something new to try. Iím hilariously bad at platformers, so we avoid those which sometimes makes it really tough.

I was going to mention the Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 as they are two of my favorite coop games, but see them mentioned already.

One I donít think I saw is Operation: Tango which is an asymmetrical coop game, where one person is the hacker and the other is the person running around inside.

Weíve also played some escape room and ghost hunting games, but thatís not really the same as two player coop gameplay.

Tartan Target
Jun 1, 2001



Surprised nobody mentioned A Way Out yet.

Kind of a Shawshank Redemption vibe, good fun if a bit generic towards the end.

Bullet Proof
Sep 3, 2006


This thread is great!

My wife and I loved playing both overcooked games together, and despite it being one of the only games she's ever played we managed to 3 star all the levels just through good communication and planning.

We just finished untitled goose game, and were on the hunt for something else to play.

Moving Out and It Takes 2 look like they're the top contenders. Which of these would be better for someone who is really pretty terrible at gaming?

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.




I was combing through my steam library looking for a good co-op to play with my kid tonight, and I happened upon a game I don't remember ever seeing, let alone purchasing, called Fight'N Rage that was a surprisingly fun beat-em-up, which felt gameplay-wise like a mashup of Final Fight and Streets of Rage. We played through the whole thing in like an hour, but it appears there's a poo poo ton of endings and we got the worst one, so we'll probably play it through a few more times to unlock some more characters and modes and stuff.

Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime is a great pick if you can get 4 people in the same room, although I feel like it loses something if you don't have at least 3 people to play with.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.




External Organs posted:

There's a ton of games that draw on Gauntlet type mechanics, ranging from your very corporate polished Diablo 3 (note that the remaster of Diablo 2 does NOT have couch co-op), to the hip indie pixel art Children of Morta.

Good times.

Does Diablo 2 at least have local co-op across multiple consoles? I'll settle for sitting together on the couch with our switches if that's a possibility.

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.



We've been playing KeyWe, and it's fun but I can't help but feel like it needs just a little more generosity in the controls, or something.

Bullet Proof posted:

Moving Out and It Takes 2 look like they're the top contenders. Which of these would be better for someone who is really pretty terrible at gaming?

If you can do Overcooked 3 stars, you can at least get through Moving Out. It Takes 2 had a couple of sections we had to swap controllers, but it never required both players to be good at the same time.

Pragmatica posted:

Weíve also played some escape room and ghost hunting games, but thatís not really the same as two player coop gameplay.

I figure if it's a video game you play with people in the same room, or at least shouting range, it counts.

Which reminds me of Spaceteam. Every player gets a control panel on their phone/tablet with technobabble labeled switches, and instructions pop up like "Set Flux Nozzle to 3". Most of the instructions are for someone else, so you end up shouting utter nonsense at each other.

That Little Demon
Dec 2, 2020



Brain Curry posted:

I played through ibb and opp with a buddy, and that was super fun. Itís a cute, chill platformer with some gimmicks

lmfao

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!


Bullet Proof posted:

Moving Out and It Takes 2 look like they're the top contenders. Which of these would be better for someone who is really pretty terrible at gaming?

My wife often gets frustrated with managing the camera in 3D games, but she and I have had a good time playing It Takes Two.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.




I love Overcooked but Moving Out didn't really do much for me personally, it just felt really dull and repetitive in a way that Overcooked doesn't. YMMV of course, maybe the pretty simple gameplay will make it a better fit for someone who's not that good at video games.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

i love ye and i preciate ye and im thinkin bout ye ever day and night

raditts posted:

Does Diablo 2 at least have local co-op across multiple consoles? I'll settle for sitting together on the couch with our switches if that's a possibility.

I don't believe so. They took out tcp/ip during development I think. I'm not 100% sure since I have it on Xbox, not switch.

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.



Are there any farming games besides Stardew Valley with local coop? Especially ones without the 16 bit sprite look.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.


External Organs posted:

(note that the remaster of Diablo 2 does NOT have couch co-op)

Absolutely mind blowing to me and such a missed opportunity.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters


Unreal_One posted:

Are there any farming games besides Stardew Valley with local coop? Especially ones without the 16 bit sprite look.

Did a search for 'local coop farming' and whoops not the kinds of results I wanted (unless I wanted to find local farm co-ops in my area, which I did not).

I'm not finding much that's local. There are a few multiplayer ones, but if you're looking share the same screen, you may be out of luck.

CYBEReris
Dec 15, 2007



I still feel like Worms: Armageddon is a gold standard for this. You could and still can have a bunch of people huddled around one person's computer, new players won't necessarily be able to use the bread and butter bazooka and grenades well but can still have fun with less physics-influenced weapons, there's often funny poo poo happening, and people who aren't taking their turn can chill and shoot the poo poo.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.


Apparently Gears 5 on PC can do splitscreen coop for the campaign but when I tried it, it didn't seem to let us do it

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I am inavoidable


Pork Pro

Great thread idea. I'm gonna throw a link to it from the PS5 thread op.


Also, here was a lagacy list of couch co-op games I had posted there.


quote:


- Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
- Guacamelee
- Guacamelee 2
- Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
- Geometry Wars
- Little Big Planet 3
- Rayman Origins
- Rayman Legends
- Resident Evil 5
- Resident Evil 6
- Trine 2/3
- Towerfall: Ascension
- Rocket League
- Defense Grid 2
- Knack 2 (lol)
- Dragonís Crown Pro
- Divinity: Original Sin II
- Helldivers
- Alienation
- Virtua Fighter 5: Ultimate Showdown
- Soul Calibur 6
- Resogun
- Dying Light
- Catherine: Full Body
- Earth Defense Force
- Overcooked
- Overcooked 2
- Enter the Gungeon
- Broforce
- Puyo Puyo Tetris 2
- Mother Russia Bleeds
- Nidhogg
- Nidhogg 2
- Cuphead
- Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls
- Spelunky 2
- Everybodyís Golf
- Gang Beasts
- Windjammers
- Tricky Towers
- A Way Out
- It Takes Two
- Castle Crashers
- Salt and Sanctuary
- Donít Starve Together
- Trackmania Turbo
- Until Dawn
- ďPretty much all of the Lego gamesĒ
- Sackboy: A Big Adventure
- Crash Team Racing: Nitro Fueled
- any WORMS title
- Tony Hawk 1+2
- Gran Turismo Sport
- Ultimate Chicken Horse
- STREETS OF RAGE!!
- Scott Pilgrim vs The World
- Nex Machina
- Sega Classics Collection
- Capcom Beat 'em Up Pack
- Stardew Valley
- No Manís Sky

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.


Cook, Serve, Delicious 3 and Unrailed are what we're mainly playing atm. CSD3 works great for remote play or locally with controllers / 1 player on keyboard, and Unrailed is very easy to pick up.

I disliked Out of Space a lot.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!


oh wow, unrailed sounds like pure uncut goon-bait

quote:

Unrailed! is a cooperative rogue-like multiplayer game where you have to work together with your friends to build a railway track across endless procedurally generated worlds.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.


This thread only reminds me of how criminally rare it is to find splitscreen coop in today's major AAA games, especially for the PC platform. Off the top of my head, only some of the modern CODs and Gears 5 offers it when you're looking at the big mainstream offerings. Not even the upcoming Halo Infinite will have it. It's absolutely criminal.

Despite Blizzard's horrendous background I am looking forward to Diablo 4 just for the same screen coop.

WarpedLichen
Aug 14, 2008


raditts posted:

I love Overcooked but Moving Out didn't really do much for me personally, it just felt really dull and repetitive in a way that Overcooked doesn't. YMMV of course, maybe the pretty simple gameplay will make it a better fit for someone who's not that good at video games.

Same, there's not enough variety in the things you do compared to Overcooked and too much of it is just coordinating with your team mate moving the same awkward box.

SmallWorriedNoise
Nov 25, 2020


I had a lot of fun playing through Streets of Rogue co-op with my son. It is much easier than playing the game solo, since dying doesn't mean game over as long as the other player can revive you. Lots of different player characters give lots of possibilities for mayhem.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!



For something much more casual, Ibb & Obb is very charming and friendly to new players. It's a simple, chill co-op puzzle platformer with the core mechanic that the level mirrors across the middle and players must interact from one side to the other to get through.

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TACD
Oct 27, 2000



Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Despite Blizzard's horrendous background I am looking forward to Diablo 4 just for the same screen coop.
Oh I didnít know that was planned, neat. Weíll probably give it a go if it turns out good

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