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seiferguy posted:I get the Veteran's committee can do whatever they want but I still think it's dumb they put Jack Morris in. May as well put Jamie Moyer in while you're at it. The page of Moneyball with Moyer yelling "Just tell me what you want and I’ll throw it.” belongs in the Hall.
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shirts and skins posted:Yes do this unironically The better "Jamie Moyer is old" commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVdETLnA9E He went on to pitch 8 more years after this!
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shirts and skins posted:Yes do this unironically Sigh. M’s haven’t been to the playoffs since this 20 year old commercial aired.
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seiferguy posted:The better "Jamie Moyer is old" commercial: Jamie Moyer is old fun facts: - One of 29 players in history to play in 4 decades - He's the oldest player in history to record a win (though it was against the Padres, so) - He's pitched in 50 different ballparks - He's given up the most dingers in history (522) - When he retired, he had faced 8.9% of all hitters, ever - Got his first win at 23, and his last win at 49 - He skipped school to attend the Phillies' WS victory parade
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Jan 27, 2022 05:26
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Another Jamie Moyer fun fact or two: He pitched while Pete Rose was still an active player He won 235 games after turning thirty, but just 34 games while he was in his 20s
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Jan 27, 2022 06:15
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This is still the pinnacle of baseball player commercials imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxy58ybzQro
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Jan 27, 2022 06:56
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seiferguy posted:I get the Veteran's committee can do whatever they want but I still think it's dumb they put Jack Morris in. May as well put Jamie Moyer in while you're at it. The closest I got into trouble with an editor on social media is when someone asked me in a chat why someone would vote for Jack Morris for the Hall and I answered cocaine. My editor saw it and was annoyed both that I implied we had other writers on cocaine and the fact that I was mock-replying about how cocaine use *is* very serious. What was lucky for me was there was usually someone else making far more trouble than me at any given time. I was small potatoes. Like this one time, when the MLB e-in-c was replaced but she had no idea who I was or what I did, so I basically just sat around with nothing to do for a month until someone brought up the fact that I existed.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This is still the pinnacle of baseball player commercials imo My favorite is Bret Saberhagen rapping about the new Ford Ranger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyVnOBdKw64
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how quickly we forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-2YW0IzUU
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Jan 27, 2022 11:16
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The best commercial is The El Duque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9gGWqVoxvU The best bad commercial is probably the Arroyo one. The poo poo, would you believe a double line is still used in tons of drops
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mcmagic posted:You're comparing this to spousal abuse or grooming a child? What, uh, are you reading into asking if Ortiz was the guy who violently and disproportionately expressed his frustration and anger on an unrelated thing with a weapon on national television?
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DSzymborski posted:The closest I got into trouble with an editor on social media is when someone asked me in a chat why someone would vote for Jack Morris for the Hall and I answered cocaine. My editor saw it and was annoyed both that I implied we had other writers on cocaine and the fact that I was mock-replying about how cocaine use *is* very serious. This is loving gold right here.
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Casnorf posted:What, uh, are you reading into asking if Ortiz was the guy who violently and disproportionately expressed his frustration and anger on an unrelated thing with a weapon on national television? We get it, you don’t like Ortiz and you secretly hope he’s an abuser so you can justify your distaste in a way that’s comparable to bonds etc It’s weird af but we get it
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I'm on a meeting so I am assuming one of those youtube links that purports to be the best commercial is the one where Ken Griffy Jr fouls a ball into the dugout to prevent Sammy Sosa from stealing his Pepsi.
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NiceGuy posted:We get it, you don’t like Ortiz and you secretly hope he’s an abuser so you can justify your distaste in a way that’s comparable to bonds etc Again, an odd read to the actual words of actual text there. Do we glorify violence unless? Do we consider only on-field activities? Is beating the poo poo out of anything that cannot defend itself ever acceptable behavior? I'm asking about the double-standard here -- not exclusionary but in whatever way you want the thing to go. The Hall itself showed its rear end long ago, but fans making clear there are acceptable levels of violence in any regard is giving you an opportunity to show yours.
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Sorry but this is the best player commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE5TkHCtlYI
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IcePhoenix posted:Sorry but this is the best player commercial  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLECMCargd8
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Jan 27, 2022 16:43
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There was an ESPN ad for 'The Rick', but it was just a recording of his voicemail. Peter Gammons: "No, I will not ask Tony Gwynn if you can have his kidney stones."
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 if Monfort hosed owners cause he's too dumb to keep his mouth shuthttps://twitter.com/EugeneFreedman/status/1486318701414690820
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Casnorf posted:Again, an odd read to the actual words of actual text there. Do we glorify violence unless? Do we consider only on-field activities? Is beating the poo poo out of anything that cannot defend itself ever acceptable behavior? I'm asking about the double-standard here -- not exclusionary but in whatever way you want the thing to go. The Hall itself showed its rear end long ago, but fans making clear there are acceptable levels of violence in any regard is giving you an opportunity to show yours. Super weird hill you’re choosing. That’s like comparing a diddler to someone who hosed a pie.
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you all just sitting idly by while baseball players literally smash baseballs with baseball bats? I bet you're okay with tackling in football too you monsters
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RCarr posted:Super weird hill you’re choosing. Are you good at patching drywall?
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More accurately, if it's unacceptable for a person to punch holes in drywall then why is it acceptable for a baseball player to do so? I'm comparing destroying a bullpen phone with a bat to a similar display of physical violence that I am quite certain most people can relate to. I don't know why anyone here is so quick to jump directly to comparing apples to nukes when there is a comparison to be drawn; just not that one.
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It’s a stupid thing to do, but no I wouldn’t say it’s absolutely unacceptable. I wouldn’t be friends or have any contact with a person who beats women, but if someone punched a hole in their wall or broke their phone because they were angry, I’d probably just laugh about it and tell them to go to therapy.
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I will cheerfully agree there. I have a little less tolerance for essentially pointless rage-outs; we're humans and they happen but when there's no ownership of your own actions, no idea that you have to take responsibility for having done a lovely thing no matter the degree to which it is bad, well... I'm just not as willing to give a free pass to a charming dude who otherwise doesn't seem to even acknowledge he did anything wrong. Nothing happens or is judged in a vacuum, and my only point of contention now that we have established a question asked in earnest (because I honestly couldn't remember if that was him) was accurate is that aside from laughing about roid rage the whole incident is otherwise forgotten. What is the difference between that and implicit approval?
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It wasn't forgotten the Orioles literally made a joke about it when he had his ceremony there because that's what you do with something dumb like you laugh about it years later whereas you don't do that with victims of DV
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The lou pinella voice i'm a north side guy is an important part of chicago culture
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Breaking your own phone is something you have to deal with, but what if you break someone else's phone? Seriously I do not understand why the immediate leap to worst case reasoning here. Is it because it's much harder to hold someone to account when the action is something you can see yourself doing? It's much harder to see yourself physically abusing a partner or spouse, so separating yourself from the accountability is loving easy. There's nothing hypocritical about this stance: I'm good at patching drywall, and I can be a real dick at times. I don't think it's acceptable or excusable when I have done that poo poo, so why should I just accept it when anyone else does? If I smashed a bullpen phone you'd throw me on an ignore list with little further consideration and I strongly suspect any mention of it would not be in the form of jokes or anything resembling comraderie. This is how a PR campaign works.
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are people seriously pretending to care that a baseball player broke a bullpen phone
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GalacticAcid posted:are people seriously pretending to care that a baseball player broke a bullpen phone
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See, this is what happens when there’s a lockout and the stove is outside in the snow.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Sir, I would like to bar all of the players from the Hall who attacked the Gatorade dispenser or broke a bat in the dugout as well I will not stand for this. A Hall of Fame without Sean Rodriguez is a travesty.
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hal mcrae is probably best known for loving up a phone, and i'd be fine with that as my legacy as i hope he is
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Casnorf posted:Breaking your own phone is something you have to deal with, but what if you break someone else's phone? Seriously I do not understand why the immediate leap to worst case reasoning here. Is it because it's much harder to hold someone to account when the action is something you can see yourself doing? It's much harder to see yourself physically abusing a partner or spouse, so separating yourself from the accountability is loving easy. Who cares though? What could we possibly say a decade after someone broke a phone in frustration? What would appease you in this debate? Like, yea he did a stupid thing, that he shouldn’t have. We all do on a regular basis. No one got hurt, no lasting damage was done, so who cares?
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GalacticAcid posted:are people seriously pretending to care that a baseball player broke a bullpen phone Just me, really, I think, because I've seen what kind of damage that can do to a person who is merely nearby. If you've never seen someone cower at the merest idea that the display could be turned toward them, even if it never has and never would...No one deserves to live in fear, and if you have to worry that an outburst like that can happen at all then, yeah, it's lovely loving behavior. You don't have to touch a person to affect them, and that has been a hard motherfucking lesson to learn. That this came out of just loving asking if that was the guy, loving christ. quote:no lasting damage was done, ...Asking "who cares?" is literally in the text you wrote dismissing that I care and whether that matters to you or not telling me my hard-fought experience in this realm is worthless is also kinda lovely. Being lovely to me, I can take it, but does that make it okay?
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I totally get criticizing a dude for clubhouse anger toward inanimate objects to an extent, but equating it to actual domestic violence is absolutely bizarre and not at all equivalent.
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They should put Vince Coleman in the Hall for getting rolled up in the tarp machine
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Casnorf posted:Just me, really, I think, because I've seen what kind of damage that can do to a person who is merely nearby. If you've never seen someone cower at the merest idea that the display could be turned toward them, even if it never has and never would...No one deserves to live in fear, and if you have to worry that an outburst like that can happen at all then, yeah, it's lovely loving behavior. You don't have to touch a person to affect them, and that has been a hard motherfucking lesson to learn. That this came out of just loving asking if that was the guy, loving christ. 
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FlamingLiberal posted:Sir, I would like to bar all of the players from the Hall who attacked the Gatorade dispenser or broke a bat in the dugout as well Breaking a bat over your own head? That's a paddlin'
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