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this is a thread to post about state violence and other reactionary violence. it is also a thread to post about the structural foundations of state and reactionary violence. to put it another way, it’s not just cops and it’s not just amateur fascists. it takes an entire village, a judicial system, a legislature and the tacit support of broad segments of the community to allow other segments of the community to be accosted, assaulted and often æradicated while protesting in the united states seems to have tapered off now that covid is over, biden is president, racism is over, and the wedge has returned to abortion rights, american police still straight up kill people on a pretty regular basis. this little girl for instance or this guy or totally coincidentally leneal frazier also while protesting in the united states has tapered off direct action is getting off the couch and getting the goods outside elsewhere in the world right now as we speak. conversely, pipeline protests and water rights/access activity are going to be a permanent fixtures of our climate apocalypse hellworld. no matter how lib infected the line 3 protests are, indigenous rights and reparations are inseparable issues from state violence. cretins attempting vehicular homicide on abortion rights protestors demonstrates that being on the right side of any issue and being vocal about it is an invitation to be attacked quick administrative stuff: re: opsec. don’t talk to cops, also everyone on the forum and at least half the people in real life are cops as a disclaimer for thread etiquette, please don’t wish death on anyone, even cops. you really don’t have to
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quote:Cases like this exemplify how the invocation of domestic counterterrorism efforts against the right will inevitably harm the left, given the state’s reactionary ideological tendencies. hey natasha, gently caress off with your inference that the only thing that won't "harm the left" is to be inert and silent and take all the mods and posters who have been echoing that sentiment with you
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Judakel posted:the toe terminator has logged on just like to point out that being a fascist is a conscious choice. you don't have to go out and beat up the queer and unhoused. you don't have to stage "counter protests" or antivax/antimask protests as an excuse to pick fights. you don't have to shoot people or run them over for speaking up about racial or social equality.
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while I have nothing against bagging on anarchists, particularly ones who go down for supporting the state, I believe that article is making a case that the state will express leniency towards regressive and reactionary miscreants, which is true, and that that is just the way things are, which is not true. I believe the article, through both content and structure, is also making the case that the best thing to do about right wing violence is nothing, which is not only false, it's immoral
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ummm, there's already a thread specifically about tiny's toes to poo poo up with this exact subject consider this: the anarchist and the skinhead are like a particle/antiparticle pair that when reunited cancel each other out. anarchists don't do anything per se, but they do maintain a sort of cosmic balance 
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Oct 18, 2021 01:01
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Junpei posted:It's so sad to see a lack of left unity two common enemies, ourselves
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mawarannahr posted:has a phone recording of police resulted in any consequences so far? that whole george floyd thing was pretty big and resulted in one cop being found at least temporarily guilty
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until that charge results in a conviction it is completely reasonable to suspect police retaliation because it happens whenever possible. the competing theory, which is equally unflattering for america is that police vehicular homicides are just such a common occurrence that this had an unlikely but not ridiculously unlikely probability to happen
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Judakel posted:the anarchist thread brings out the worst in people imo no, I think it's cops being utterly despicable monsters who have no accountability that is irritating people
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Oct 26, 2021 23:14
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no one's calling you an anarchist. anarchists punch nazis, you fellate them
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which? the nazi punching, the nazi fellating or the group ridiculing of forums poster judakel? I condone the first universally. the other two I think would really have to be evaluated on a case by case basis
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new friend from school posted:this judge in particular has never denied such a motion in another case. hmmmm... I wonder why he was hand selected for this particular case of clearly not self defense
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nudejedi posted:One anti-anarchist circle jerk thread wasn't enough? Pretty greedy for supposed socialists, if ya ask me. I actually started this thread so we could have a cop thread without the white noise anti-anarchist pro police circle jerk bullshit. not content to kill their lovely thread with their bullshit they migrated over here. ironically, it's the one place that's safe for them to post in because no one here will report them to get them probed
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I don't think anyone had to report that, I think that's just crusty doing her job, like she did in the last thread
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yes, excellent analogy. dissimilar only in that she's not an agent of state violence
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you're the one who demanded it in your garbage thread
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you want to quote, like, the next post down where one of the seattle network news stations confirms that fact? go take this poo poo back to the johnny five paces thread
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Judakel posted:were the anarchists on twitter going on about the shot placement also contractors? interesting how the constant assertion that anarchists are really loving stupid no longer applies to them in this one specific instance
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Judakel posted:you don't think killing black teenagers is stupid? sure, I never stated that cops aren't stupid
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Southpaugh posted:Seem to be misunderstanding anarchism as something other than community organisation. If anyone else starts a cop thread and devises some way to keep it clown free I will be glad to close this one
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the trump supporter is made uncomfortable by the talk of opposing fascism to push the ignore button is considered cowardice such a dilemma
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it used to be to post about how flawed cops and justice systems are but that makes judakel uncomfortable so now I guess it's to post this image over and over again
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ever notice how cops always carry guns? like that every cop is an explicit constant threat of violence, that a cop car patrolling a neighborhood is the equivalent of putting up a big billboard that says "hey, if you disagree with us we can kill you, usually with impunity!"
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Judakel posted:That's another thing cops and anarchists have in common. I would contend that america is, as a whole, such a stupid demon cracker nation that gun ownership is a necessary evil, that the prospect of mutually assured destruction is the only thing big enough to penetrate the willful ignorance of the racists and stooges and monsters that comprise the american right wing. I would also contend that a bilateral expectation that violence can be met with violence minimizes the bloodshed for both parties. I would implore you to read this nonviolent stuff will get you killed to see how this tactic worked for the civil rights movement While I like to avoid counterfactuals, I would further contend that a piece of poo poo like kyle rittenhouse crossing state lines with intent of shooting people is a behavior that would be strongly dissuaded by "anarchists" actually being armed and, here's the big counterfactual, having the discipline and organization to turn that presence into a political force
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lollontee posted:in the past 21 years the finnish police have shot dead 10 people, the reason is that finnland, to the best of my knowledge, never leveraged racial separation against labor solidarity. american cops are slave catchers, this isn't flippant hyperbole nor does it come down to the abhorrent personalities of individual cops. it's baked into the laws and the unspoken norms of the legal system and it's by design. genocide of the indigenous people and enslavement of the african people are american empire, that's the foundation and largely the definition of the country, it's where history starts, it's the driving force of american institutions
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Ronwayne posted:How viable is that with death squads of Marshals teleporting in like Payday cop spawns to pop any leftist that waves/fires a gun at a chud? The civilian chuds get emboldened when the cops brutalize/kill the people that fight back against civilian chuds, and the left gets demoralized when the state has enough will and power to simply kill any leftists escalating to firearms and does public street executions. again, the counterfactual part there is discipline, dedication and organization. waving and firing guns are signs there's been a failing on two of those points. imagine a group where half the members have just gotten back from winning a war and the stakes are recognized and the values are shared by all the member of that group. it worked to a degree for the civil rights movement in america. similar conditions worked for cuba and vietnam. how viable it is comes down to who constitutes the left, how hard they work at it and what the goals are
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Judakel posted:One of the guys was armed. no, kyle shot his arm off
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Ronwayne posted:I'm not sure what possible leftist organization could survive a combo of that. a very large one such as what tends to develop naturally as a result of material conditions turning to poo poo or foreign invasion
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3983694
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good news thread. despite living in a post chauvin world it seems most police can still absolutely massacre black people with legal impunity https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/11/07/grand-jury-no-charges-2018-aquantis-griffin-austin-police-shooting/6301968001/
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Chard posted:shoot 100 dogs and you get a free frozen yogurt w/ blueberry swirl you've uhhh pretty much spoiled one of the gags in the lego thing I'm making
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was there ever a chemical assay on the defoliant/carcinogen/abortifacient murder gas the thin blue war crime doused portland with last year or any litigation over it?
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look at these flaming loving röhmos
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lol hey look what came up on a totally unrelated search https://www.mystateline.com/news/politics/tiny-wrists-in-cuffs-how-police-use-force-against-children/ cops do so much bad poo poo they're skewing the algorithm
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really surprised palmetto state armory hasn't made a rittenhouse ar lower yet. also found out that the south carolina flag looks oddly arabian
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