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Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
It's always kind of weird whenever Lupin and his crew do something that almost definitely kills a bunch of cops who weren't doing anything particularly evil besides "trying to catch Lupin," although the police of every nation do seem to have decided that "unchecked lethal force" is appropriate in spite of Lupin's case in spite of the fact that, aside from occasionally using rocket launchers against the police force, is a surprisingly nonviolent criminal.

After thinking about this it is probably because there is not much for the police to actually do in a high-speed car chase against a master criminal and his borderline-supernatural accomplices if they aren't allowed to deploy ranged weapons.

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Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I don't think it was meant as a punchline because the same thing happened in the Part 5 finale and it was weird there too.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Maybe I should go through all of Part V again and just make a note of how many antagonists died/probably died/definitely died.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I feel like assuming that all police are exactly like American police is giving American police too much credit by assuming that their corruption is inevitable rather than the result of choice and systemic factors.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

MonsterEnvy posted:

Also these are Interpol. Like their whole job is not to deal with normal crime, but international criminals.

That said it is kind of weird that police are constantly shooting to kill Lupin even in his red jacket days when he's absolutely not a violent criminal, but it's kind of established that this is how it works.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

chiasaur11 posted:

As for the episode, it felt like it could have done a better job with the Holmes upsell. The detective part, where Lupin ran through their criteria for the hideout, and then went "Yeah, this guy would have found us by checking the same thing." was a good bit of one-upsmanship for Holmes, but Jigen and Goemon came off as total chumps. They didn't do anything cool, and Holmes didn't counter them by showing off a clever plan or improvised use of his environment. Jigen just couldn't hit a man running in a straight line, Goemon couldn't cut him, and in general, everyone just let Holmes win.

He sure did a lot, but he's a season-long antagonist who more or less has to stand up to the whole Lupin crew, and I think it was ultimately fair.

Goemon can cut anything with his sword and rarely misses, so Holmes used his cane to prevent Goemon from drawing his sword in the first place. (Goemon is notably not the kind of swordsman who's comfortable starting a bare-handed fight if he can't use his weapon.)

Jigen rarely misses with a gun, and Holmes dodging his shots was 50% "super-awareness, plus he's just that good" and 50% "carefully keep Goemon in the line of fire (see 'super-awareness')."

He seems to have gotten around Fujiko via a combination of sheer sex appeal and the fact that she was primarily protecting the poster and he didn't actually try to take it from her like she was expecting (also it's incredibly dangerous to assume that you've charmed Fujiko Mine or that it means anything if you did).

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And then Holmes just lets Lupin go, making it unclear what his motive was in this whole thing.

He wanted to try and convince Lupin to just go away, which was very unlikely to work but he wanted to take the chance for Lily's sake.

MEANWHILE IN THE LUPIN III "HOW DOES KILLING INTENT EVEN WORK" WATCH:
  • Lupin fires his gun at Zenigata's car, clearly aiming for the tires, which causes the car to spin off a bridge and into the Thames. Neither Zenigata nor Yata pretend to be anything more than irritated by this.
  • Lupin sets off bombs that completely demolish an abandoned building, starting with the bottom floor, while Zenigata and a bunch of cops are on the top floor. Somehow, this kills absolutely nobody.

Violence! What is is good for?

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Having watched the most recent two-parter, both of Zenigata's subordinates are very bad at their job and he absolutely should not rely on them in any way.

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Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I feel like Zenigata could use a sidekick, at least occasionally, because it gives him someone to talk to (rather than just yelling "Lupin!!!!" at empty space) and the opportunity to show more sides of his character by mentoring younger detectives and not just repeatedly failing at the one thing he does.

Unfortunately his sidekicks suck.

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