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Yeah, that's a weirdly unintuitive ruling. Like the instinctive reading is you get your HP/hit dice/spells back because you got a full night's rest, so why wouldn't that work for elves even if they 'sleep' less?
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Elves should sleep more because they live longer. 3 day long rests but maybe they get a few more spell slots or something.
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TotalHell posted:Hilariously, this is not actually the case. They get the “same benefits of a human who slept for 8 hours” but this is also “not intended to replace a long rest.” They actually changed this. https://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/SA-Compendium.pdf quote:Racial Traits I guess because it makes zero sense having a 4 hour trance elf still needing an 8 hour long rest and they finally realized how stupid that was.
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blackcross posted:They actually changed this. Oh thank god. I always hated that ruling.
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TotalHell posted:Hilariously, this is not actually the case. They get the “same benefits of a human who slept for 8 hours” but this is also “not intended to replace a long rest.” I don't understand all the consternation over this, given that the language usage is perfectly clear. You don't take a "long sleep," you take a "long rest." PHB 186: "A long rest is a period of extended downtime, at least 8 hours long, during which a character sleeps or performs light activity: reading, talking, eating, or standing watch for no more than 2 hours." In fact, RAW, you become exhausted when you can't eat or drink, but not from lack of sleep. Taking a long rest does allow you to recover from 1 level of exhaustion if you were able to eat and drink, though. If you trance for 4 hours, then you still need to spend 4 hours of "light activity," including no more than 2 hours on watch, in order to complete the long rest, and you can't benefit from a long rest until you have completed one. A human doesn't need to sleep for 8 hours, either, and the rules expect at most a "6 hours sleep, 2 hours watch" in a party of 4 PCs, with one PC on watch every 2 hours. Given that previous editions often led to bizarre 11+ hour sleep cycles to allow everyone 8 hours sleep plus have a watch set, this was obviously intended as an improvement.
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Antitonic posted:Probably not going to get a single thing correct, but excited to watch eventually once timezones and prior engagements finally finish. Maybe December some time? Fingers crossed! Turns out, not only am I absolutely terrible at maths, I’m about as bad at reading my own schedule. I just have to wait until Saturday morning like it’s a cartoon. So that’s nice.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:Huh. I’m pretty sure that’s not how Matt ruled it for Essek that one time, since it’s what had Laura making the joke that the whole party should be elves. I've seen at least one other podcast DM rule it that way, too. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the way most people play it. Also if I were the only elf in the party I'd be pissed at always getting 4 hours of watch duty every night.
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Narsham posted:I don't understand all the consternation over this, given that the language usage is perfectly clear. You don't take a "long sleep," you take a "long rest."
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Senjuro posted:It's a dumb RAW. People associate long rest with sleep because it doesn't make sense that sleep is technically never required. one of the few rulesets i actually wish matt would re-read if he's going to keep doing the super-survival-heavy rests constantly getting interrupted thing he relied on towards the end of S2 it'd be better to just not rely on that at all, because it's annoying, but the whole "you couldn't get 8 hours of sleep" thing was extra-annoying
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eke out posted:one of the few rulesets i actually wish matt would re-read if he's going to keep doing the super-survival-heavy rests constantly getting interrupted thing he relied on towards the end of S2 He didn't have that problem with Vox Machina for some reason despite them reaching higher levels and often being called overpowered.
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Hulk Smash! posted:Are the 3 other names misspellings of "Mica"? I know its probs going to be Mica but I put Will Friedle anyway because one of my favourite Talks moments is him trolling Brian with his mini primetime ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7C9z-bbeOM
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Dragonstoned posted:I know its probs going to be Mica but I put Will Friedle anyway because one of my favourite Talks moments is him trolling Brian with his mini primetime ad I guessed Mica, and I do like her, but I honestly think I’d prefer Will Friedle.
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Liam going to step outside his comfort zone with this brooding melancholic antihero being broodier than normal.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, that's a weirdly unintuitive ruling
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Dragonstoned posted:Who's gonna be the Tortle? I have my prediction as Sam as a Tortle Druid
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It will be weird to see Sam with a (potentially) normal-sized drinking vessel. Which is why I think he might be a kobold.
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TotalHell posted:It will be weird to see Sam with a (potentially) normal-sized drinking vessel. Maybe he'll go the other way, and have like a tiny rear end mug that he refills a lot and be a goliath.
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Senjuro posted:It's a dumb RAW. People associate long rest with sleep because it doesn't make sense that sleep is technically never required. I’ve never gone 24 hours without water, but I have been dehydrated, and I have gone two days without sleep (and several weeks with less than 8 hours of sleep per night). Dehydration was much worse. I haven’t seen anybody confused about short rests, which don’t require sleep at all, although I admit the Catnap spell exists. It mattered in C2, and as others have noted, it’s unclear why Matt relied on denying the M9 long rests anyway.
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Having just now watched the set reveal, C4 is going to be just a volume set like Mando.
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Want them to be sent out into the desert to find some artifacts. One of which is a stargate. Spelljammer things ensue.
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Twenty-twenty-twenty-two hours to go, I wanna be sedated~ I went for Mica for the Talks host, but belatedly I realised what I actually want is Mica and Will both, in a Conan O'brian/Andy Richter setup for Talks.
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Dameius posted:C2E001 had low 100ks concurrent audience. What is everyone's guesses for C3E001? The final episodes of season 2 had between 650k-1.9M views, so I'm gonna guess we have an easy 1 million. At least until after the characters are all introduced and people start bailing when they don't like someone's choices.
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Here I was, thinking I’d just be a genius and get the number off the YouTube video of C2E1. I don’t think 14M+ is a fair, or accurate number to compare to.
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Antitonic posted:Here I was, thinking I’d just be a genius and get the number off the YouTube video of C2E1. I don’t think 14M+ is a fair, or accurate number to compare to. Yeah, that one is lifetime views. To be fair, the numbers on the Twitch vods may also include people who watched after it aired, but they're only 6 months old compared to the numbers off episode 1.
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Senjuro posted:It's clear that he was struggling with challenging the party near the end. Hence the inability to rest, the completely overpowered intuit charges, and Lucien's at will antimagic cone that dispels magic instead of just supressing. My theory is they're trying to keep episode lengths down, but to challenge a seven person party outside of bosses, you need a lot of enemys which slows down the combat a lot and they want to avoid all-episode combats and/or six hour episodes Just a guess
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Dameius posted:C2E001 had low 100ks concurrent audience. What is everyone's guesses for C3E001? I'll be curious to see how many people watch on twitch VS youtube for the premiere more than anything, I'm gonna be going youtube for this whole season if possible.
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Bounced off C2 somewhere around the midpoint I think (late 60s episode wise) for some reason I don't even remember. Obviously finishing it by the time C3E1 goes up on Youtube on Monday is basically impossible, so is there any point late in that makes for a good jumping in point? If not, I'll just do longer catchup between C3 eps and stuff. No formal predictions for C3, but Sam better play a Wild Magic Sorcerer. He might be the only one who can make that work!
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It's Thursday Yet! Also:Paracaidas posted:
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Lotus Aura posted:No formal predictions for C3, but Sam better play a Wild Magic Sorcerer. He might be the only one who can make that work! Or a wild magic barbarian. 
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Nemo2342 posted:The final episodes of season 2 had between 650k-1.9M views, so I'm gonna guess we have an easy 1 million. At least until after the characters are all introduced and people start bailing when they don't like someone's choices. Overlord K posted:I'll be curious to see how many people watch on twitch VS youtube for the premiere more than anything, I'm gonna be going youtube for this whole season if possible. I'm going to guess peak concurrent across all platforms, including theater tickets will be somewhere around 500k +/- 100k. I realize that is a fairly big swing but I just can't make up my mind which way this will go. I think closer to 1m as a peak concurrent is maybe possible but also poo poo that just sounds so outlandish for a bunch of nerdy rear end voice actors playing D&D.
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Come ooooooooooon Tortle PC
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Dameius posted:C2E001 had low 100ks concurrent audience. What is everyone's guesses for C3E001? Lotus Aura posted:Bounced off C2 somewhere around the midpoint I think (late 60s episode wise) for some reason I don't even remember. Obviously finishing it by the time C3E1 goes up on Youtube on Monday is basically impossible, so is there any point late in that makes for a good jumping in point? If not, I'll just do longer catchup between C3 eps and stuff. For my favorite stretch you've missed (light spoilers): In C2E93, Laura becomes a god, which leads to Jester learning more about her god in C2E94, which leads to Marisha learning that Matt is a genius in C2E102. This was probably my favorite non-Pirate run of the campaign. If you are looking to bounce in around the endgame, C2E132begins the exploration of Aeor, which had the feel of Matt loredumping everywhere in a way that could be relevant for C3. From there it's the bodyhorrorish endgame that worked for some and really didn't for others. A quick note that the actual finale is like 7 hours long because lol
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After seeing this, I'm hoping they announce tonight that Paizo backed up a dumptruck full of money to their studio so they are switching back to Pathfinder.character buffing guide for the hardest difficulty level on the latest Pathfinder CRPG posted:Sample buff routine for melee (Monk-based):
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bagrada posted:After seeing this, I'm hoping they announce tonight that Paizo backed up a dumptruck full of money to their studio so they are switching back to Pathfinder. Given how not well Starfinder and Pathfinder 2.0 have done, I doubt Paizo HAS a dumptruck full of money anymore. The wheelbarrow full of loose change they do have probably isn't enough to move the CR dials any. Not compared to D&D Beyond money, anyway. e: And anyway, if they were to do that, they'd want CR to play Pathfinder v2 which is NOT the game you're remembering, so you wouldn't get that regardless. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Oct 21, 2021 |
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