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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



is this still the microsoft thread? i upgraded my PC to Win11 last night. was surprisingly quick and painless. none of my settings got hosed with and i've had zero issues. it feels nice and snappy, the new UI is growing on me feels good, start menu is total dogshit though

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



just been trying out WSLg on Win11 and it's neat as heck. ofc i can't think of any linux GUI apps that i actually want to run sooooooo

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



oh neat

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



HappyHippo posted:

upgraded to 11. they removed the "never combine taskbar buttons" option? gently caress this poo poo. my taskbar is 99% empty and the two windows open are combined.

they also made it so that the taskbar context menu only appears if you right-click the start button when previously it would appear if you right-click anywhere on the taskbar. i'm super used to launching task manager by right-clicking the taskbar so it's driving me crazy.

that ofc is a minor nuisance and the worst part(s) of the win11 UI is the removal of full-screen start and its replacement with this bullshit:



there's no way to disable or hide that "Recommended" section so it is just foreverially wasted space. previously i've always used full-screen start as it's the best loving way to do poo poo. pin your primary apps to the taskbar and pin your secondary apps to the start menu where they appear as big buttons that you can launch with winkey+click button. now instead you've got a 6x3 grid of medium sized icons along with a bunch of dumb wasted space it's so stupid

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



oh also the reason i came here:

https://twitter.com/PubicZirconium/status/1479161707083751424

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



yesterday i discovered that applocker isnt available on windows server core. fuckin bizarre

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



burning swine posted:



I plugged a samsung phone into my windows pc today to grab a picture or something and this immediately happened

event log says windows itself downloaded the driver responsible for this garbage as soon as the device connected

nice operating system good job

i wonder if they hosed up that installer like razer did: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/razer-bug-lets-you-become-a-windows-10-admin-by-plugging-in-a-mouse/

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



sometimes when i reboot after installing a microsoft update (windows cumulative or even .net framework cumulative) the audio output devices for my graphics card disappear (HDMI/DP audio out). rebooting again brings em back, truly bizarre. also i've noticed it often likes to reset whatever output format i select for an audio device, keep having to switch it from 16bit/24khz to 24bit/48khz (or 24bit/192khz for my headphones connected via S/PDIF)

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007




yeah i know. i just like bigger number, because surely it means better

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Carthag Tuek posted:

welp teams just stopped working. was fine on wednesday but now its not showing video (just grey). i have no idea if im visible on the other end either lol

i use the high contrast theme in teams because it owns and they broke that as well. in the chats list it used to have the contact's name in yellow and most recent message snippet in white, now it's just all yellow. such a dogshit app lol

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Hed posted:

itís really loving bad and all I can figure is because itís using the worst technologies: share point and SIMPLE all packaged up to work on electron

they need to get the vs code team to un-gently caress teams. they seem to be the only ones capable of making an electron desktop app that isn't absolute loving rear end (as i understand microsoft dog-fooding vs code is part of the reason why it doesn't totally suck but maybe that's an urban legend).

e: ofc there's no fixing the whole god drat "SPO as a backend" garbage.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



jammyozzy posted:

This, the way I never get the menu I expect when clicking a tray icon and notifications randomly ignoring 'do not disturb' have led me to try a Linux as my main os, and I gotta say going from KDE back to W11, it's windows that feels jankier.

was going to post about how annoying it is to interact with onedrive from the system tray but they've "fixed it" in the most unintuitive way possible. left-click shows the usual onedrive menu and right-click shows the same menu however the cog in the top-right of the menu also expands to reveal a menu atop the menu ahahah

edit: no wait it's actually fuckin worse. one right-click shows the regular menu and spawns a tool-tip below the cog then if you right-click again it expands the menu from the cog like what in the gently caress

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Aug 19, 2022

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



mystes posted:

I could be wrong because this is just a baseless assumption on my part, but as horrifying as "sharepoint as a backend" is in general, I assume that with office 365 it's really more just like "sharepoint is another frontend to the same data" on the backend anyway? They still shouldn't integrate it with sharepoint because it makes everything about teams more complicated and dumb but I imagine that it's not like stuff in teams is breaking because it actually has to go through sharepoint apis or something

yeah you're probably right. obviously they'd need proper teams endpoints to do RTSP stuff, amongst other things. in those cases if it is using SPO on the backend wouldnt be an issue.

honestly it's hard to tell what is breaking most of the time when the app acts up but im p sure a lot of it is on that electron front-end. that said i just did 4 days of 8 hour teams calls this week for training and it didn't explode. ofc i didn't try to do anything else on my laptop whilst in the calls, doubt thta would have ended well.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Chris Knight posted:

or the way Sharepoint online has no way of just right clicking and opening links in new windows when in the page or document library, you gotta Get A Link instead, which then also has some janky rear end parameters randomly attached it them.

i love how if i open a document from sharepoint and it loads in like excel or word online i have no way of navigating from the opened document back to the original folder in sharepoint. at work ive got a bunch of docs in SPO bookmarked for convenience but i have no idea where they actually are in sharepoint.

oh also sharepoint URLs are amazing. just incredibly massive, even the special sharing ones you can copy.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



a few hours ago after a reboot i discovered that my audio output in windows had been set to mono. i guess at some point i must have accidentally clicked the button to enable mono output when i was changing output devices as i often do.



why microsoft decided to put that option front-and-centre in the sound settings is beyond me. literally the last thing anyone would want to enable.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



jammyozzy posted:

It's an accessibility option, I'm deaf in one ear and that setting lets me wear headphones.

Some games / programs let you set it individually, but many don't and UI designers can't agree if it lives under 'Audio' or 'Accessibility', so it's nice to be able to force it in Windows and be done with it.

oh wow i didn't realise that. i feel like a massive dingus now, more so than usual

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



microsoft have started pushing win11 22H2 over windows update. the list of new features is, for lack of a better word, lame as heck: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/windows/inside-this-update-93c5c27c-f96e-43c2-a08e-5812d92f220d. also ive heard theyve hosed with the audio section in the settings app even more by further burying previously convenient and easy-to-access options.

however because im a sucker for punishment as well as a literal sucker im going and installing it on my home PC. looking forward to getting ruined

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



trip report: very disappointed, the update installed fairly seamlessly and didn't break anything. looks the same as before.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



FWIW i've never seen a Win10 or Win11 update revert any settings made via Local Group Policy which is where you can disable 90% of the bullshit.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



this is the only new feature that i like in win11 22h2:

https://i.imgur.com/dM3GqOJ.mp4

seems easier than using win+arrowkeys and quicker than hovering over the maximise button of a window.

edit: i've got no use for it on my PC at home which is just hooked up to my garbage sony bravia TV that only does 720p except sometimes 1080p idk. however ive got an ultrawide at work so looking forward to using it there

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 28, 2022

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



yeah on reflection it's not exactly the height of usablitiy

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



so it appears that since installing 22H2 write speeds to my NAS via SMB3 have almost doubled. my NAS is connected to my PC via 10GbE and prior to installing the update i'd usually get around 500MB/s when copying from local SSD to the NAS. now since installing the update i'm getting around 1GB/s (averages between 800 and 900MB/s).

im not 100% sure whether or not installing the update is responsible for the change and it could just be a coinkydink but nothing else has changed with my setup other than installing the update. either way it's good news for the craven dingus data hermit named Pile Of Garbage.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



echinopsis posted:

one of my favourite piles of garbage

:)

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



my boi, look what they've done to my boi! they've massacred him!



i really can't fathom why they did that to task manager. it's functionally identical so going to town on the layout just feels like a listless UI person mucking around looking for something to do oh whoops their branch got merged

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Cortana politely notifies me that physically shaking with rage is not a supported full-body gesture.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

this is btw why if you're on windows 11 you likely have two incompatible versions of teams installed. one is the one you use and the other is the non-electron one.

isnt that just the user-mode installed one and the enterprise "machine-wide" installed one, both of which are identical otherwise?

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i *believe* the "machine-wide" one is indeed an edge evergreen trial run. i think both the way it is installed and the weird integrations it has with the garbage start menu is part of the api set that "platform" offers. supposedly teams as such is a single code-base, so they shouldn't differ heavily otherwise.

i doubt that the machine-wide installed version is being used as a trial-run for anything as that is the specific distribution which microsoft recommends for enterprises that want to roll-out teams to their fleet via SCCM/MECM or something else. given how averse enterprises are to change it's unlikely microsoft would recommend a package that was secretly a beta-channel test mode or some poo poo.

HOWEVER the thing is that it really doesn't matter how teams is installed as the application updates itself internally. at least it does some electron update thing and then tells you to "reload the app" to finish updating. all of which im certain is just downloading new js and assets.

another thing worth mentioning is that microsoft electron apps in general still don't have proper integration with the windows UI experience. for example in win10/11 if you hover the mouse cursor over the full-screen button of either teams or vs code the little screen snapping thingo doesn't appear. this is understandable as they're not proper windows apps.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



thank you cybernetic vermin and shaggar, now i know more about teams. also:

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

3) i am wasting my life

:same:

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



also im pretty sure uninstalling IE12 is a CIS recommendation so on windows server at least you should leave edge installed and if you still dont want it then install server core.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



nice!

e: lol it looks so good on my ultra-wide at work

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Oct 10, 2022

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



a common thing that im seeing in enterprise and government is forefront TMG (EoL 2009) instances running on windows server 2003 with >800 days uptime. good poo poo

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



so it appears that at some point after the win11 22h2 update but before the october cumulative update microsoft finally added back audio output device switching in the system tray (that they removed that feature pissed me off because i often switch between my TV audio and headphones):

https://i.imgur.com/O1DIb9a.mp4

also in the october cumulative update they added tabs to file explorer which they originally promised in the 22h2 update but apparently it was too hard. gotta say it sucks and is clearly hacked-on as there's a big delay from when you click the new-tab button to one appearing, presumably because it has to spin up a separate explorer.exe process in a tree outside of the parent but also linked to it or some poo poo idk

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



on a brand new M365 tenancy, enabled by default:



it's really getting ridic how much poo poo needs to be disabled/tweaked to properly shrink and secure the surface area of an M365 tenancy. my favourite example is from the AU DTA Protected Utility Blueprint re some poo poo called "Viva Learning": https://desktop.gov.au/blueprint/office-365.html#viva-learning (tl;dr: big time disable mode).

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



akadajet posted:

hey... hey you. why don't you bing it up your rear end?!

i like to believe that the bing up your rear end video is real and actually happened. it gives me strength to go on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i still can't work out how to delete a file that has been shared in a teams chat. like you can delete the message it was attached to but the file is still there in the convo under the files tab

edit: oh ok so deleting the message does delete the file it just took like a day to happen

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Carthag Tuek posted:

any way to get rid of this loving thing?



pops up every time i start remote desktop, and i always say no

why are you using the remote desktop UWP app you can just use mstsc

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



ah well lol

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i installed the latest cumulative update for win11 22h2 on my work laptop and now the task manager app is all hosed up. it's in night mode but also the text is black so you can't read anything. good poo poo A+

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



same issue after installing the update on my PC at home. this is what taskmgr looks like now:



i love how critical OS features that were previously bullet-proof are now susceptible to the same issues that you'd expect to see on lovely asset-swap unity engine game

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



i wonder when they'll make winver into a crazy UWP app

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