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mystes
May 31, 2006



Gentle Autist posted:

windows doesn’t work like this
That's because you're not using Windows S

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mystes
May 31, 2006



I hate with outlook how inevitably I often end up searching through massive threads and because one email had a word every copy of the thread will come up and it's impossible to determine why. (Also if an attachment is a hit I don't think it will even tell you that or which one it is which is absolutely infuriating.)

On the other hand the way gmail shows previews when you search is actually pretty half-assed too. It seems like google has kind of killed progress in a Microsoft-ish fashion where once gmail dominated the market they stopped bothering to improve it and nobody can compete with it so email will never improve ever again (if there's actual competition they'll probably buy it and kill it).

My other complaint with both of them is that it's way to inconvenient to create tasks for yourself based on emails. In gmail I sometimes use the completely idiotic method of assigning labels based on days of the week just because it's so much faster than other methods of keeping track of stuff.

mystes fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Dec 1, 2021

mystes
May 31, 2006



Well for one thing I'm not quite crazy enough to use a ticket system for my personal email, not would responding to myself be likely to get a ticket opened

mystes
May 31, 2006



I like that you can apparently now use Teams for personal use like some sort of skype replacement, as if that is something anyone in their right mind would want to do.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Shaggar posted:

the windows client does the reminders for old meetings too. thats almost certainly the favorite feature of some boomer product owner at microsoft who thinks its critical that you know you missed a meeting while you were out last week.
Yeah I don't know why anyone would want that.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Shaggar posted:

i could maybe see caring that i missed a meeting that started 10 minutes ago, but thats about it.
They should just stuff the old meeting notifications in the daily briefing/myanalytics emails and then burn them

mystes
May 31, 2006



fart simpson posted:

i had a big mac recently for the first time in a while. it was pretty good.
This is the microsoft thread, not the apple thread.

mystes
May 31, 2006



jesus WEP posted:

they should have and should always have had win2k look and feel as an option in every windows version
This but hot dog stand

mystes
May 31, 2006



Bingo is an insanely stupid name BUT I could almost see it working if they brought back the power pup office assistant and retconned that as its name

mystes fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Dec 27, 2021

mystes
May 31, 2006



polyester concept posted:

bingo already has bing in it plus it has “go” in it which makes way more sense to the kind of windows user who would ever use such an assistant. wtf is a cortana? doesnt office come with a font named cortana too? ballmer was right.
Ballmer did nothing wrong

mystes
May 31, 2006



Lol

mystes
May 31, 2006



https://twitter.com/louisnicholls_/status/1487179285177815047

(What they're actually doing is asking people to give consent to make the ads look like emails because otherwise it might be illegal in the EU)

mystes
May 31, 2006



~Coxy posted:

although I have to give MS props for letting you get free stuff from the windows store without having to have an account at all (until now, probably)
I think they changed it to allow that a couple years ago and you originally had to log in even to get free apps, so I don't know why they would change it back again, but I guess if you have to log in anyway they might figure it doesn't matter.

mystes fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 21, 2022

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i mean, generally i cannot imagine a situation where "oh yeah, install windows 11, just don't create a microsoft account" doesn't add up to awful advice. microsoft has a lot of nonsense going on in windows 10/11, all very legit to be upset about and switch away over, but given that you don't escape that poo poo anyway local accounts were already bordering on a misfeature and it'd for sure only get worse over time.
What advantage do you see for normal users to log in via a microsoft account?

If you use a microsoft account you can reset the password, but on the other hand.... I'm not entirely convinced it isn't better for most non-technical people to just not have a password on their account for a computer that they just keep at home (since it's not like it can be accessed remotely anyway)?

Forcing everyone to use drive encryption and storing the key in the microsoft account I guess is a higher default level of security, but like I'm not sure I want my extremely elderly grandfather to have to use a password/pin/fingerprint to log into his computer that has nothing on it and never leaves his home since I'm literally not sure he'll be able to handle that? They've already made it hard to install windows without a microsoft account so I'm not sure there's much point to actively make it impossible?

mystes fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Feb 21, 2022

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

password recovery options a normal person can use, support for the whole windows hello infrastructure (e.g. biometrics and so on), there not being weird traps with turning on bitlocker, and over time, more and more poo poo that'll expect functionality like onedrive since 99% of users do have it. plus of course a bunch of stuff more clearly straddling the line of being os functionality and account stuff, like find my device.

most of which microsoft could fix if they really worked at it, but then it'd be a secondary set of functionality seeing very little use, and even with decent effort put in (which they wouldn't) it'd no doubt turn out buggy and harder to get support for.
They shouldn't force you to use stuff like onedrive (honestly they're clearly moving back to illegal bundling territory) and again... you don't necessarily password recovery or biometrics for a computer that's just sitting in your home if you just... don't set a password on it. It's more secure to have a password, but for a lot of people the risk of someone breaking into their home and stealing their computer is at the bottom of their concerns whereas they're extremely likely to manage to get locked out somehow accidentally.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

this is, however, getting weighed against the advantages of local accounts: nothing whatsoever.
I just said several times that the advantage if you use a local account is that you can just not have a password set for non-technical users on computers that never leave their homes.

There's also no online account to get stolen/hacked.

mystes
May 31, 2006



tk posted:

Did you just advise a no-password setup and then double down on that being a security advantage?
For someone who isn't using full disk encryption and whose computer is not remotely accessible in any manner and is definitely going to forget their password and get locked out of their computer which also, as I said, never leaves their home that nobody else goes into, not setting a password does not really have a significant effect on security.

The advantage is that they aren't going to get locked out. I never said it was a "security" advantage (I didn't say that and neither did the question I was responding to).

If you disagree please feel free to explain what additional security is provided by an account password in this scenario (you think it's going to make UAC more secure? you think that someone's going to break into their house and have physical access to the computer but not be able to insert a usb drive to reset the password?).

mystes
May 31, 2006



tk posted:

The best reason you’ve got for keeping around local accounts is that you can avoid leaving a sticky note with the password under the keyboard?

On the other side of the ring you’ve got all sorts of simplified maintenance. I don’t like your chances in this fight.
Did I miss the part where you explained the additional security threat from not having a password set in the scenario I described?

mystes
May 31, 2006



Lol

Love to pay Microsoft $9/month for cloud file storage when I already have 1TB from o365

I can't wait to sign up for a monthly Microsoft Paint cloud subscription to unlock the eraser tool

mystes fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Mar 12, 2022

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

kind of doubt that is the pay structure it'll have, it is a screenshot of the clipchamp website which hasn't been changed since microsoft bought them a couple of months back.
The way they worded it made it sound like it was being installed on new installations of Windows 11 now but I guess maybe they just meant that it is decided that it will be in the future so yeah hopefully they'll change that and either stop the stupid limitations of the free version or include it with o365 or something.

echinopsis posted:

as far as I can tell you can't set no password for windows without detaching from an account

at least thats how I rememeber
I believe this is true and microsoft accounts are going to be mandatory now so it will essentially be impossible to not have a password.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Chris Knight posted:

had to figure out something for work, and now I like powershell
Sorry to hear it

mystes
May 31, 2006



post hole digger posted:

its weird but kind of fun in its way
It's actually not particularly weird but also incredibly annoying in various ways

mystes
May 31, 2006



I didn't know because I have it disabled anyway but apparently the weather widget thing in the taskbar was updated to show randomly changing stock charts?

mystes
May 31, 2006



ErrorInvalidUser posted:

is microsoft dead set on doing only windows these days or?
Microsoft, like google, is dead set on not having any idea what it's trying to do

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

yeah, hard to imagine anyone showing up to defend sharepoint, in the era of 365 especially. skype for business levels of bad.
I have some bad news about all the o365 business products for you

mystes
May 31, 2006



they're all sharepoint, op

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cold on a Cob posted:

i can't install w11 on my i7 mac mini, oh well :grin:
You probably can't install it on your Power Mac G5 or your IIGS either.

mystes
May 31, 2006



Shaggar posted:

they still dont have an API for getting chat events in a reasonable mechanism (i.e. websockets) cause they dont want 3rd party teams clients
Perhaps it's also because the o365 people are determined to push stuff like Power Automate / Power Apps and allowing real api access would get in the way of that?

mystes
May 31, 2006



Cold on a Cob posted:

i seriously doubt anybody would try to write a third party teams client
Does pidgin still exist?

mystes
May 31, 2006



Shaggar posted:

i would write one that just does chat and nothing else
Are you sure you aren't a linux user?

mystes
May 31, 2006



graph posted:

is it seriously called figma
figma balls

mystes
May 31, 2006



CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

i published an actual product with adobe flex
Weird but ok

mystes
May 31, 2006



qirex posted:

all interface design software has stupid names, it’s a rule for some reason nobody knows
Luckily all other software also has stupid names

mystes
May 31, 2006



When is a Microsoft not a Microsoft?

mystes
May 31, 2006



Armitag3 posted:

Introducing balsamiq the sql to vingr
Gonna map reduce that baby down to a syrup

mystes
May 31, 2006



CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

is azure even profitable
Are you thinking of GCP?

mystes
May 31, 2006



https://mobile.twitter.com/jsnover/status/1523010444570419200

Unfortunately they somehow ended up changing their minds.

mystes
May 31, 2006



PowerShell is kind of "Awful Taste But Great Execution" of a .net unix shell

mystes
May 31, 2006



Wait wtf is the built in app then?

You can already use the O365 teams app for personal use if you really want to for some inexplicable reason I don't understand how they're different?

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mystes
May 31, 2006



chaosbreather posted:

microsoft doesn't make actually make any productivity, communication, developer or business applications, just xbox games and platforms of a range of budgets and qualities. nerds have just tricked managers into thinking that that their very bad computer games are making the company money somehow by using lots of long words and charging them a lot of money.
Teams is an even worse idle game

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