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Fame Douglas posted:Hyping up a 0.9% seasonal decline this much seems a bit absurd. See the second tweet, he goes into detail.
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If there aren’t cars to sell sales will decline. Shits gotten worse with Omicorn and a sales decline might not be price / demand driven.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:If there aren’t cars to sell sales will decline. Shits gotten worse with Omicorn and a sales decline might not be price / demand driven. This is, after all, a supply chain crisis.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:It's bananas that something as expensive and difficult to maintain as a vehicle could be considered inelastic. It's incredible that American transport systems have hosed themselves into this corner. There's actually a new body of thought that contradicts the traditional view of economists, and identifies a fair amount of elasticity for gasoline. In particular they found mathematical errors with previous studies that heavily biased them towards reporting inelasticity. Modern research indicates that Americans do reduce their driving and switch to more fuel efficient vehicles in response to higher gas prices. https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2020/0616
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Kaal posted:There's actually a new body of thought that contradicts the traditional view of economists, and identifies a fair amount of elasticity for gasoline. In particular they found mathematical errors with previous studies that heavily biased them towards reporting inelasticity. Modern research indicates that Americans do reduce their driving and switch to more fuel efficient vehicles in response to higher gas prices. That makes sense. I remember during the Bush years when gas spiked there were all sorts of stories about "super savers" who would stretch their gas mileage as far as possible. That really only really applies to "consumers" not the economy at large tho. For example, if growing corn requires gasoline-powered tractors then the farming conglomerate who buys that gasoline doesn't really have an option to just buy less gas without significant investment in fuel efficiency etc. Thanks for the heads up.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:That makes sense. I remember during the Bush years when gas spiked there were all sorts of stories about "super savers" who would stretch their gas mileage as far as possible. That really only really applies to "consumers" not the economy at large tho. For example, if growing corn requires gasoline-powered tractors then the farming conglomerate who buys that gasoline doesn't really have an option to just buy less gas without significant investment in fuel efficiency etc. It seems like in the extreme the cost of tractor heavy foods would go up and tractor light foods would be cheaper. Like I’m not sure how it exactly maps to tractor use specifically but it’s a commonly heard fact a pound of beef creates 10x the greenhouse gas as a pound of chicken. People are flexible about that sort of thing to some degree.
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The tractor’s use of fuel is a fart in the wind of energy usage of commodity grain production.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:The tractor’s use of fuel is a fart in the wind of energy usage of commodity grain production. In a broader sense different foods require different amounts of energy and within limits people are somewhat flexible on food choices. If everything went up a million percent people would starve to death but if some stuff went up a lot and some things went up modestly people do change consumption
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Bar Ran Dun posted:The tractor’s use of fuel is a fart in the wind of energy usage of commodity grain production. It was an example to demonstrate elasticity, not energy usage.
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You (OOCC) make me very tired. Crops that don’t use a tractor are usually harvested by hand. They will not be cheaper to harvest than crops that can be mechanically harvested ever. They all get transported internationally. Most get fertilized. These are much bigger energy inputs than the gas used by a harvester. Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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Feb 8, 2022 04:12
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It’s just such a tiny slice of the cost it’s a bad example to pick.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:You (OOCC) make me very tired. Yeah man, I don’t think anyone is literally talking about tractors.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Yeah man, I don’t think anyone is literally talking about tractors. Owlofcreamcheese posted:It seems like in the extreme the cost of tractor heavy foods would go up and tractor light foods would be cheaper. Like I get the thought that was trying to come out, but pick better examples for your thought experiments.
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As American fuel prices start to climb out of the "negligible" value and into "low to moderate on a global scale", even farmers are beginning to consider fuel efficiencies of their tractors. In a 2008 study, the USDA estimated that diesel prices constituted 14% of the total increase in annual expenditures - one of the largest individual factors. As such, they are starting to include engine efficiency as one of the selling qualities for tractors and other farming equipment. They estimate that "1 hp-hr./gal. can mean a $1,300 difference in fuel costs over the course of a year". Not small potatoes in the world of farming. This sort of issue is only a good thing, because it encourages folks to actually reduce consumption. Higher gas prices might also mean changing crops to ones that are less fuel intensive (corn ethanol, for example, is much more energy intensive than beet ethanol), or passing on costs to consumers (maize is also a common beef fodder, which might ultimately raise the price of meat). Both would probably be a societal win, though they would clamor for more government subsidies. https://www.farmprogress.com/tractors/most-fuel-efficient-tractors Kaal fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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I think you likely see a transition to electric eventually, following the larger general trend of heavy machinery going electric that nobody is paying attention to because the machines basically look exactly the same.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Like I get the thought that was trying to come out, but pick better examples for your thought experiments. Sorry the literal police can’t understand metonymy.
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Kaal posted:As American fuel prices start to climb out of the "negligible" value and into "low to moderate on a global scale", even farmers are beginning to consider fuel efficiencies of their tractors. In a 2008 study, the USDA estimated that diesel prices constituted 14% of the total increase in annual expenditures - one of the largest individual factors. As such, they are starting to include engine efficiency as one of the selling qualities for tractors and other farming equipment. They estimate that "1 hp-hr./gal. can mean a $1,300 difference in fuel costs over the course of a year". Not small potatoes in the world of farming. This sort of issue is only a good thing, because it encourages folks to actually reduce consumption. Higher gas prices might also mean changing crops to ones that are less fuel intensive (corn ethanol, for example, is much more energy intensive than beet ethanol), or passing on costs to consumers (maize is also a common beef fodder, which might ultimately raise the price of meat). Both would probably be a societal win, though they would clamor for more government subsidies. Countdown till someone claims the free market will solve climate change...
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Sorry the literal police can’t understand metonymy. Generally analogies have to be valid.
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Stop making me check my bookmarks for your slapfight, If BRD didn't like my analogy that's fine.
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https://twitter.com/RetroTechNoir/status/1494133673532305410 To be more precise quote:The law of salvage encourages those on the sea to help one another. Accordingly, a person who helps a vessel that is in trouble is often entitled to a reward for risking his own safety to help his fellow seamen. The law of salvage may apply if there is a vessel in trouble or if a ship is already submerged in the water. The person who discovers the troubled vessel and helps to recover its passengers or contents is known as the salvor. The salvor has the responsibility to surrender the ship and its contents to the vessel’s lawful owner as long as the owner compensates the salvor for his or her actions. If the owner refuses to compensate the salvor then the salvor must surrender the ship or its contents to the United States Marshal and seek a maritime lien against the owner.
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I’ve done securing surveys on that ship. Not recently of course.
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Welp, I guess Titan is on it
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I’ve done securing surveys on that ship. Not recently of course. Either a German or a British channel did a neat hour long documentary on loading one of them and I was blown away with how...spacious it was. Like, I knew it was a parking garage on a boat...but I really didn't get how much it literally looked like a giant parking lot on a boat. It was a trip to watch them load all the different vehicle types. So like, how does the survey work?
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Either a German or a British channel did a neat hour long documentary on loading one of them and I was blown away with how...spacious it was. Like, I knew it was a parking garage on a boat...but I really didn't get how much it literally looked like a giant parking lot on a boat. It was a trip to watch them load all the different vehicle types. Is it damaged? Note where if it is. Take pictures. Longshoremen do the securing, depending on where you are you might witness this or not. Do a calculation either advanced calculation from annex 13 of Solas and the CSC code or a rule of thumb method. Let everybody know if securing is okay document lashing gear and take more photos. If it isn’t okay depends on who you are on for, if your principle is the carrier tell them they have to fix that poo poo. If your principle is another party explain why it’s wrong that you have documented that it is wrong and that you are requesting it be corrected. This goes better if you are well known for knowing your poo poo. RORO surveys can be fun because things can end up on a ramp occasionally, most people can’t modify the calculation to account for that.
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1495450390699122689?t=IuYX9oU4hLpfKqRFiALe4g&s=19
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I'm well past $3000 in port and warehousing fees now to ship a $600, 200-pound single pallet of metal hardware from China. How the gently caress Harbor Freight manages to do it all day I'll never know. Two months late gave them a lot of time to fabricate a lot of fees. edit: I feel like I would have sidestepped nearly all of this if I just squeezed it into two Airmail shipments... Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Zero VGS posted:I'm well past $3000 in port and warehousing fees now to ship a $600, 200-pound single pallet of metal hardware from China. How the gently caress Harbor Freight manages to do it all day I'll never know. Two months late gave them a lot of time to fabricate a lot of fees. The first time is always the worst unless you brought a whole team of people who know what they are doing in. Once a shipment has been figured out it becomes more routine. Until something changes then ur hosed. Whoop you shipped under deck on the tank tops or tween deck until now, this one is on deck and mistakes you had been making you were unaware of have suddenly cost you five million dollars. Or that transloading new terminal is a wet mud pit and you didn’t put your coffee on pallets. Whoops. it occurs to me I could start posting loss prevention resources... Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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