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merk posted:I will play. I'm only signing up because I think the last time I played a game merk said he was quitting mafia forever.
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merk posted:You’re going to have to be more specific I chuckled
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Nov 12, 2021 22:19
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Oh boy oh boy it's happening
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Nov 15, 2021 22:38
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Sandicap posted:In this player list, I would say either SNG or Dex or Tobbs, because they are back after extended absences. Dex might catch a shot from an oldbie settling an old grudge, but generally, when people come back after being away for a while, you give them a bit of time to exist. Rude ##vote Sandicrap
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Nov 16, 2021 00:06
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Dexanth posted:##Vote Maerlyn Know what kind of people say disingenuous? scum ##vote Dexanth
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Nov 16, 2021 05:11
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b-minus1 posted:You could not be more wrong Oh hey it's a town binus. Thank God.
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Nov 16, 2021 05:12
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[quote="Hal Insandenza" post="519293536"] Ohhhh ##enter shop [/quote
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Nov 16, 2021 13:37
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b-minus1 posted:This looks like a scumbus: I wish bee and I were scumbros and this was scumbusception. Alas we are town. Toalpaz is my nemesis so calling me out is alignment neutral. I'll try to chuck out some reads tomorrow. I just finished assembling and calibrating a 3d printer which took up most of two days and I am BEAT.
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Nov 17, 2021 04:04
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Bee movie's "you could not be more wrong" seemed super cocky and confident and came across as genuine. Maybe he's gotten more deceptive lately but it feels real to me. Scumbusception is bee saying I'm bussing Dex, but in so saying, were bee and I scum together, it could be interpreted as a scumbus within a scumbus. Ergo scumbusception. No relation to scumception apart from similarity of the made-up-words. Now let me drink coffee in peace.
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Nov 17, 2021 14:08
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Lean town: Bee because of confidence/cockiness Shellception and Maerlyn for wordiness/lack of sneakiness Lean scum: Tom due to disappeariness Dex for aforementioned reasons plus my town read of Maer A big block of low-posty high-coasty old-timers who I haven't made up my mind about yet. Strong neutral stance on Toal for nemesis-related reasons. Neutral on high-posty low-coasty Sandicrap who seems too cautious Neutral on people I don't know or care about
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Nov 17, 2021 15:39
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Shellception posted:Something I'd like town to learn in due time, please. Maybe it can upgrade certain players' abilities. Lots of isekais have a growth mechanic.
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Nov 17, 2021 17:00
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Dexanth posted:Some things feel scummy, sometimes. Maybe you are not, maybe you will develop feeling townie, but for the start, it pings me~ This vacillation on her read of Maerlyn plus the "pls" and the rest of this post reeks of faux innocence. It's been in my head since yesterday but I forgot that people can't read my mind.
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Nov 17, 2021 18:32
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Why is everyone sand anyways? Also there is zero chance of me being awake at 4am Friday. Apologies for this OOC post.
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Nov 18, 2021 00:10
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merk posted:But not as weird as this post. Got a thing for feeling posts, huh? Well, you do you.
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Nov 18, 2021 00:35
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b-minus1 posted:Hey guys I have a huge favor to ask. Can you all please exit the shop I ain't gonna risk faking a day action. But for giggles I exit the shop
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Nov 18, 2021 03:25
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I could see Hal, less for the "bad feelings about lurkers" thing and more "can't put down an opinion without hedging".Hal said this posted:Not getting good feelings about dex and also sng somewhat. Binus not coming across great this far either. Every opinion he's throwing out here is fungible and wishy-washy. I still think Dex is very suspicious, especially since she's not really responding to any callouts. I do that as scum a lot because most pressure goes away if you ignore a vote or two. ##vote Hal It's absolutely fine to have bad feels about me Shell, I come across as very scummy regardless of alignment and have had my fair share of D1 lunchings as town. Regardless I've got a strong town read on you and I'm on your side.
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Nov 18, 2021 15:57
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Bifauxnen posted:I don't think everyone sharing town lists is very beneficial. It's best to point out who you think is town if and when they are in danger of being lunched, before that it's just helping scum decide who's best to kill first. Cool game mechanics post. Your callouts and me-toos are pretty shallow. Who scum?
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Nov 18, 2021 21:42
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So if I'm understanding correctly, SNG's strongest scum read this game is Tom because he came in with some good long posts and thoughtful reads and then didn't post for a while. He says nothing about the content, just makes a quick argument from a mechanics standpoint that is deeply flawed, and when called out on it sticks to his dumb idea and flails around with a Bif vote. Flail more, scum. ##unvote Hal ##vote SNG Would still vote Dex but am feeling better with Hal throwing out opinions that are a bit more solid.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:17
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Bifauxnen posted:##Enter shop ##Enter shop I just want to pick up an energy drink. I'm a bit pissed that bee was taken down so fast for essentially no reason. It's not like he was caught in a web of lies, he just had some reason to distrust the shop. I haven't seen anything from Dexanth to make me change my position so let's get scum up on the board. ##vote Dexanth
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Nov 19, 2021 23:44
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merk posted:Am I scum for it or what? I don’t care how you think I played this as town. I don't think scum would give up a doublevoter D1, so I think you're probably town. If you are town then there's no chance scum are letting you get anywhere near LYLO, especially with someone apparently spreading hate.
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Nov 20, 2021 00:03
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Dexanth posted:I mean you will get town, so like I am not going to bother defending against this as both A. Nothing to defend and B. If I go I will at least go with plenty of people I am sus of, so my flipping will be good. We're not in huge trouble yet but we do have two flipped town and no scum. A town flip is practically worthless compared to a scum flip. Anywho I thought Hal did a good job later in the day of tossing out solid opinions. I take it you disagree?
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Nov 20, 2021 00:10
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Bifauxnen posted:Seriously? Unmatched eloquence
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Nov 20, 2021 01:12
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Also, starting to have some thoughts Bif, will be interesting to see how you play this.
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Nov 20, 2021 01:28
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Tom Tucker posted:Yeah that last post by Tobbs was super scummy it deflects Bifs suspicions but not with direct attack but by placing themselves above the accusation as an observer Bif's "suspicions"? There was no content or explanation. Anywho, I don't see any harm in explaining myself. Bifauxnen posted:##Enter shop Here's a pretty obvious reference to monsters. Please recall that bee flipped town monster. (bolding for emphasis) Tobbs Gnawed posted:##Enter shop What's a popular energy drink brand? Monster. So yeah, I responded to her breadcrumb, but her response in turn makes me think she was fishing. Why? I'm also a town monster. I think she picked up on that, and suddenly she wants me dead. There's at least two monsters in this game (me and bee) and my guess is that Bif wants us dead for some reason. Am I wrong? Or insane? Maybe, probably, who knows?
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Nov 20, 2021 04:59
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Bifauxnen posted:I wanted binus alive you goldfish brain I literally just reiterated my thoughts from the end of D1. Nothing changed from then until now except that now you know I'm a monster. So, what's up with that? Why are my opinions that weren't worth mentioning yesterday suddenly moving me to the top of your scumlist today? Something isn't adding up here.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:01
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:So if I'm understanding correctly, SNG's strongest scum read this game is Tom because he came in with some good long posts and thoughtful reads and then didn't post for a while. Here's my last post from yesterday, note the bolded portion.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:03
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merk posted:To me, the content speaks for itself. Toal joined the b- vote with no reason and no explanation for why they didn’t vote SNG. Toal isn’t scum hunting. Toal, from a meta perspective, would’ve done something wild by now as town. I'll read them. I don't have a good grasp of their meta but I do remember them being pretty aggressive as town.
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Nov 20, 2021 16:28
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Nah, I'm neutral leaning town on Toal
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Nov 20, 2021 16:34
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CirclMastr posted:I would probably be better at participating in mafia if I knew the difference between a good case and a bad one. As it stands, I'm just going by tone and feel for who I think is scum. This is perfectly valid. It's a game of liars and going with your gut is often the best path. Scumslips and game-solving with night actions can help. What we really need is a flipped scum, though.
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Nov 20, 2021 16:52
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CirclMastr posted:Like, I get scum vibes from Tobbs. They put a lot of effort into reading breadcrumbs that didn't actually add anything to the discussion and wasn't scum hunting. Just this morning, Tobbs is asked about Toal, says they'll read Toal, and comes back all of six minutes later with a barely-commital stance that just mirrors other people's "town Toal doesn't act this way" but with even less articulation. In my defense Toal was not a long read. My gut says their opinions are genuine and consistent. My town flip won't help us win this game. I'll admit to substantial curiosity about the power upgrade mechanic, and while I have thoughts they'd just be a distraction and wouldn't help town.
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Sandicap posted:Good case, tobbs is still scum. Instead of wasting your time maybe consider casing scum.
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I'm awake, I'll respond to Sandi after coffee.
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Nov 21, 2021 13:35
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Bifauxnen posted:oh hey Tobbs! Please also post your most recent thoughts on me, ok Without going into mechanics issues I had a town read on you D1. I did think you wanted to murder me for role-related reasons but revised that perspective. I'm at worst neutral on you. Happy to go more in depth but I haven't actually started coffee and that's all my brain can crap out right now.
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Nov 21, 2021 14:11
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Sandicap posted:Ok, let's talk Tobbs. To summarize: Sandi thinks I'm scum because he doesn't believe I can form opinions without turning this thread into my own personal confessional/monologue. If I was as gung-ho and serious about the disingenuous bit I'd be voting the three other people who use it every other post. In fact, Dex's response to my post as well as backing off and vacillating on Maerlyn, plus the tone of the post, all paint a classic picture of scum behavior. To top it off, Dex never responded to my concerns which is the cherry on top, as it's also classic scum behavior to ignore cases because responding can make you a bigger target, plus it's safer to stay under the radar and watch the case go away. So yeah, Dex is scum and I'm voting her. I don't see a good case for merk or Toal being scum. I'd vote them to avoid a no-lynch but that's a last resort in case my gut is wrong here.
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Nov 21, 2021 14:57
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Sandicap posted:Sure, part of it is because you aren't showing your work. But it's what that is hiding that makes me think you are scum. You pushed Dex with nothing to make it seem like you have something. You keep saying it loudly so people assume you have reads. Even here you say you don't see a good case for merk and Toalp. Cool cool, great point there. Gosh it's almost like my posting is similar to another player in this game. I know someone who's only voted for flipped town bee and another player I know is town, Tobbs. That player is you, Sandi. In fact, since you casually jumped on the bee train I'd say you're the scummier of the two of us, per your own reasoning. You're next after your scumbud Dex.
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Nov 21, 2021 15:27
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Shellception posted:Ok, let's try and break the circle up a bit. I have no idea who's considered a returning player here because I could be considered a returning player. We've already covered my thoughts on Dex. You and Toal seem genuine to me, and merk is excluded from my scumlist due to strong mechanics-related reasons. It feels like a cop-out, but I'd like to hear more from Tom, deadmeat, and Taste. Yeah, they're the only three not voting today, but I don't have a sense of them this game. I probably should re-read SNG because there is content there and there was a swing away from him towards bee. The last time I played mafia I didn't have two toddlers to watch and was able to contribute a lot more, but I'm doing my best with the time I have.
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Shellception posted:Sorry, I was unclear. By "returning players" I mean a lot of people who went AWOL on content posting D1 and are now back into the game. Nothing to do with the new/returning old players issue that's raised so many complaints. It sounds like you have very specific players in mind. You tell me who they are, I'll read them and let you know what I think.
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Nov 21, 2021 16:32
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Shellception posted:No, not really thinking of anyone specific. I clarified because it seemed confusing, I am OK with any reads from you that aren't the person you've been tunnelling in since D1, or the one accusing you. You've voted for two players this game, Toal and me. This isn't an accusation, just pointing out that I'm not the only person struggling to pinpoint scum. I've got nothing decisive. My strongest scum read is Dex and I'm voting her. If you have someone else you think is worth looking at I'll make time for it, but most players I don't have an opinion on are doing a good job of flying under my radar.
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Shellception posted:Yeah, I don't usually throw votes around. Reason being, I am an Euro player with attention issues. If I vote someone I don't really think can be scum, and I forget, deadline at 4 am means that: a) in the best of cases, I'm wrong or b) at worst, I'm voting off someone without being able to read their defense and making things easier for scum. I am VERY careful with pressure votes. I unvoted Toal yesterday not because I thought they weren't scum, but because if they ARE town, I did not want my vote to be used in an hypothetical scum piledive. Back to voting one of your two scum picks for not having the correct arbitrary number of scum picks. Good talk. Also, bolded part deserves some explanation, especially since italicized part could also be translated as not wanting to look too scummy for being an early vote on a town flip. Kinda like your case on Toal, yeah? Everyone's a hypocrite, I know that, but I'm starting to lean neutral on you for how blatant it is.
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Shellception posted:Nah, we can dance, if you want. I have nothing to lose. Do you? I tried to point out that I'm doing exactly what you're doing this game. The only difference is that I'm not casing/voting your particular scum picks, one who I think is town (Toal) and one who I know is town (me). If you're scum I'm not gonna do your work for you by building a case on someone I don't think is scum. My head is spinning. Have I been struck stupid or something because I don't see your play as being different from my own, at least with respect to the parts you're trying to use to paint me as scum. And yes Toal, it seems our nemesissery is paused if not abolished.
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