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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Really think it's Mae or RF. Won't vote Merk.

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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Other than plastic do you have reads? I'm kinda null on plastic but mostly because scum or town he's pretty aggro on me every game so it's confusing.

Sometimes when he's scum he isn't aggro, so I lean town here.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##vote voodoo *person shrugging*

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Goodluck on this holy day somber.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Info
This is a game of mafia for 13 players. I’ve gone back to basics for this one, power roles will be fairly limited. Do not join if you don’t want to play vanilla town!

is this just a straight up lie lol

what are you plastic

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##vote ia

for now

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Idle Amalgam posted:

I feel like plastic might be scum, or toal and plastic are scum and that whole "do my bit to survive" is an overblown reason for voting me when they themselves aren't in danger.

OR plastic is sincere, and toal is bad faith voting me under suspicion of their play.

In any case, I'm not scum, I am erthrocyte red blood cell, I transport oxygen around the body and can see what actions, if any, were performed on a player, but not who performed them.

this is a fake claim

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
it isn't vanilla and you were afraid to claim watcher, despite all roles flipping vanilla with standard names

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Bifauxnen posted:

I'd feel kind of ridiculous if this led to a Sandwolf lunch today though, out of absolutely nowhere. I think for today we should either lunch IA, or someone not-IA who has more prior suspicions to serve as a good high-info contrast to IA.

:colbert:

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
yeah we can kill plastic after

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
all of you
come on, are you all scum and third party or something?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Mae I'm not impeding IA from claiming what he did last night.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Idle Amalgam posted:

I visited merk and saw no actions other than my visit.

When was I afraid to claim anything?

so like, you didn't claim watcher in your original post.

a) you see an imaginary role block come for random town
b) role block doesn't hit you after claiming d1
c) you aren't killed n1, even though scum rb doesn't hit you
d) you aren't killed n2, even after 'catching' scum rb
e) your claim is structured to fake the existence of scum rb
f) power roles who doubt the validity of your claim die, instead of you
g) this is a vanilla game and you claimed a non vanilla role under duress

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
They have a ninja for n1, but for n2 is seems ridiculous not to kill the watcher. Especially when the watcher may be lying about not seeing who is visiting.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##unvote

Here's the thing though. Why does a town empowered exist.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
The ninja points to a town track or watcher existing too.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
i am willing to follow merk this game

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
heh, it would be funny if there was a benign tumor survivor

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
A lotta people sus of me and ia

i don't think you could honestly think my suspicion of IA is bussing.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Somberbrero posted:

Because there's a scum roleblocker. If IA is scum it's easy for him to know what would be safe to claim d2.

Somber, if empowered exists to stop scum rb

Then ninja exists to stop scum watch

Wouldn't you agree?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Somberbrero posted:

As phrased no I don't agree. If the question is 'is there a town watcher to contrast the scum ninja?' then yeah probably?

Yeah, exactly so with no town cc it doesn't make sense to vote ia.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
##vote Mae

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
If you're town tracker or watcher and havent seen poo poo imo you should counter claim IA. It isn't fishing, it's doing your job and catching IA.

If there isn't one, IA is town watcher because he SEES everyone's action VISITING his TARGET. Thats a watcher.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

merk posted:

Here, Toal prods RF for reads. What is Toal going for here?

Trying to get reads ...?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Here Toal asks what do you think? Do you think Toal is inquiring to what you are thinking here?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
If you're confused about my role I'll claim because scum aren't so dumb.

I'm vanilla town, and it's obvious because I don't know if I was role blocked or not n1.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Also it strikes me as insane that some people are contemplating that scum at -2 decided to self vote and scum hammer for no reason, flipping their ninja.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I do think it's Mae and Sandwolf

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
It doesn't make any sense for IAs role to exist the way it does in this set up. But it's frustrating me that no one is able to claim tracker or watcher and makes it difficult for me to vote him.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I'm not a cancerous cell, well maybe I could be, but that applies to most cells doesn't it??

I have a very specific cell and I'm saving the name to counter claim scum who claim my flavour.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Maerlyn posted:

You shouldn't be voting just based off night actions right? Is that the only thing that makes IA look scummy to you?

Puh lease. I've killed scores of players for less and I am not going to stop.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
The whole reason why you come back to early claimers is cause they were shady enough to execute d1.

I don't think in a vacuum, IA has made many interesting reads or scum calls.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Retro Futurist posted:

You’re a vanilla town with a very specific cell name that you’re not going to name because you think that scum don’t have fake claims?

Um, scum also flipped with the mission to kill specific cells for boons. So.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Maybe you were hoping I had forgotten, RF.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Retro Futurist posted:

Then why not say that?

so that I can find out who wants to know my flavour the mostest? which is you

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
because you ignore all my content and positioning around IA mae, you act like it's buddy buddy but I came up with the argument that is going to get IA lunched today if he is

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
IA come to thread and pick a few scums huh?

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Imo he was setting up for a scum bud to pity unvote him and for himself to quickly unvote

Was a few hours to deadline iirc

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Well, 1 hour :/ I dunno

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Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Oh yeah, excuse me for voting RF the bad way, should of voted RF the good way, like you did.

##vote RF

Well done Merk!

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