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hello my fellow cells how are you
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Nov 21, 2021 22:41
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Hey OA who is the 13th player anyways OP only has 12 listed
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Nov 22, 2021 06:16
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Anyways I haven't done this in a while so ##Vote: Maerlyn
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Nov 22, 2021 08:57
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So how is everyone doing this fine day?
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Nov 22, 2021 20:44
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b-minus1 posted:I’m doing fine except I’m bothered by these ia votes I'm still being tripped up by the Voodoo/IA avatars but
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Nov 22, 2021 21:04
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Ah poo poo now I need to assign voice actors for everyone.
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Nov 22, 2021 21:41
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gently caress yeah, congrats Voodoo. 
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Nov 23, 2021 08:56
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Anyways we have like. 9 hours left so it's about time to start making a decision
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Nov 23, 2021 14:04
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Also need to make another post or two to avoid lurker warning because what the gently caress is day 1.
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Nov 23, 2021 14:06
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Also Toal having nothing but town reads at this point with this little activity is a bit weird. ##vote: Toalpaz
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Nov 23, 2021 14:09
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It's Toalpaz and Bif. I'll elaborate in a bit.
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Nov 24, 2021 07:35
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Bifauxnen posted:Actually wait Content and content.
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Nov 24, 2021 08:15
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Okay so I'm assuming that Squiggly vig'd Binus and was taken out the same night given his vote at the end of the day. Anyways my Bif thought is extremely lacking and I need to re-read the thread with the flips in mind but Bifauxnen posted:Sure do, except Solus should be more of a connoisseur of sarcasm Whenever Bif starts referencing someone's tone or how they should have taken something, she's scum.  ...I really think Toalpaz is scum and there was some rapid shifting of votes onto Solus the moment he threw his vote on Toalpaz. Merk feels like incredibly lazy town with that vote but some of them are pinging me. Like Maerlyn (stop me if you've heard this one before) who went out of her way to justify the vote swap with "Oh yeah I totally believe IA's claim so that makes him town" despite the whole you know scum getting fake claims.
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Nov 24, 2021 08:28
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Also I forgot the most important piece of evidence. Solus was town. By the laws of Mafia Bif can NOT be town.
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Nov 24, 2021 08:37
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Can not also be town you know what I mean
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Nov 24, 2021 08:38
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So I know this is setup spec, but why are we taking IA at his word about his role? It's a really weird role that we can not confirm (unless Toal wants to claim a PR and admit they were blocked) that it doesn't make much sense to have in a low PR setup. Also even if he's telling the truth it's certainly a stretch to immediately assume that result hard clears Toalpaz. Speaking of Toalpaz. Having this series of posts on the same page are really goddamned weird! Toalpaz posted:I have no strong reads other than town ones. I think that Somber, IA, and Solus are town. Toalpaz posted:I'll do my bit to not die ##vote ia Toalpaz posted:IA, you're just too charming. Here we gooooo They go out of their way to call both IA and Solus town. THEN turn around and proceed to vote both of them. IA as this supposedly self-interest save my own rear end vote (when they're at -5), and then Solus for... some weird tone argument to disguise the fact that it's an OMGUS vote. Meanwhile the two players that Toal says might be scum never get followed up, looked at, or anything. ##vote: Toalpaz
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Nov 24, 2021 16:20
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Retro Futurist posted:I’d say it proves toal isn’t an SK but that’s about it Also I'm pretty sure we know who did the second kill. The dead vigilante who ended the day with his vote on Binus and loudly shouting that he was scum.
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Nov 24, 2021 16:22
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Toalpaz posted:Mae I was second on the vote finder list 4-5 hours from deadline at the time. I voted so that it I would never be 'vote leader' and people would never be 'forced to vote me', as the phenomenon of eod goes. You were at -5 and your own vote put IA at -2, while the guy who ended up getting voted had no votes at the time. That is nonsense, you know it's nonsense
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Nov 24, 2021 17:22
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Those are all pretty good points, Merk, and gently caress it, citations have me won over. Though I don't want to let IA and Toalpaz off the hook, especially given that Voodoo seemed to start that vote train onto Solus to protect Toaly. It's something we should probably come back to tomorrow. ##vote: Voodoo
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Nov 25, 2021 17:01
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This is definitely lazy town merk and I will not be voting him. Somber, why is RF your second choice? You've mentioned wanting to vote him a few times now but never really explained why. Is it literally just his vote on Solus yesterday?
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Nov 26, 2021 07:46
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Hey Somber, why were you visiting Bif last night?
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Nov 27, 2021 17:32
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Hmm. Interesting. It really sounds like we should lunch IA then.
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Nov 27, 2021 18:45
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Sandwolf posted:Plastic was your thing about Somber a breezy gambit? Guilty as charged. Also as to Merk's question, I noticed that the post targeting Solus from Voodoo didn't come when IA was at -2, but the moment Solus agreed with me about Toalpaz, Voodoo suddenly hops in with a lovely case and the votes just slam in. I don't know if it was an excuse, but it's really weird timing, especially with Voodoo's self vote and Toal doing the "well I guess I'll hammer whatever" routine.
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Nov 28, 2021 02:42
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Can we also talk about the idea that scum did literally nothing to Merk after he got scum taken out day 2?
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Nov 28, 2021 02:46
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merk posted:Am I scum? No I'm suggesting that IA's result sounds like bullshit.
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Nov 28, 2021 04:10
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Maerlyn posted:I have agreed strongly with Plastic so far, which should frighten me...Will look more closely at him. Love you too, Maer. Also leaving this here. ##Vote: IA
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Nov 28, 2021 04:28
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Toalpaz posted:Yeah, exactly so with no town cc it doesn't make sense to vote ia. This makes no sense. IA's not claiming Watcher. He's claiming some almost useless role that tells us basically nothing.
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Nov 28, 2021 18:37
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I could see Sandwolf but I don't think scum makes such a colossal blunder as accusing Merk out of the gate. Reads more like town who isn't paying a bit of attention. ...I have more bad town than scum reads at this point. Also IA being the watcher makes no sense because what is the point of a ninja in that case? Oh no we don't know that someone killed this player. ...Except they're still gonna turn up flipped and unable to post. (Unless there actually is no watcher and the ninja thing is a hilarious mod troll on everyone.)
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Nov 28, 2021 21:20
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Toalpaz posted:Imo he was setting up for a scum bud to pity unvote him and for himself to quickly unvote ...So is his scumbud there me or Maerlyn because it sure as hell isn't Merk.
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Nov 29, 2021 02:28
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Eh, I think RF's more bad town than flat out scum, but I'll vote him if we need me to actually get a lunch today. I'd still rather vote IA with how badly he's been pinging me though. His claimed role is almost completely useless, and if he DOES flip town (I severely doubt it), it at least clears Toalpaz.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:41
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So it's not quite as bad as I thought, as IA doesn't change his mind on Toalpaz until day 2 after his supposed result. But there are a couple of posts that really bother me.Idle Amalgam posted:I feel like a lot of people are just phoning in votes here, but I also feel like there isn't much I could reasonably do here to prove innocence. I don't even have any good reads of anyone. Where IA has a halfhearted defense of Toal in the same post where he's saying they're scum. and then there's his last post at the end of the day Idle Amalgam posted:I feel like plastic might be scum, or toal and plastic are scum and that whole "do my bit to survive" is an overblown reason for voting me when they themselves aren't in danger. Which feels like a bunch of hemming and hawing in an attempt to set up "well oops, one of them wasn't scum, let's get the other one~" down the line. And most importantly there's something very important missing here. At the time, IA is at -2. Toalpaz is at -5. IA has spent a bunch of time, including this last post saying Toal is scum, and he's on the chopping block now with Toalpaz being the next vote leader. IA DOES NOT VOTE. Hell he hasn't voted anyone since his pity self-vote earlier in the day. And this somehow immediately convinces Toalpaz to change their vote to Solus, and we all know what happened next.
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Nov 29, 2021 18:24
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Mafia edit: He didn't vote anyone for the rest of day 1.
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Nov 29, 2021 18:26
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Or more likely Toal is IA's scum bro and is trying REALLY hard to protect him.
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Nov 29, 2021 19:27
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Toal who scum then, cause you were fine lunching IA day 1 until you weren't, you were fine voting IA on day 2 until you weren't, and once again you're repeating that exact same process.It seems pretty obvious that Toal wants to be seen voting IA, but is consistently refusing to commit and always trying to push someone else instead. (It's IA and Toal let's just dunk IA now.)
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Nov 29, 2021 22:30
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IA has a fake as poo poo sounding role, a counter claim by Maerlyn who had a really good reason to not out, was being protected by scum on Day 1, and most damning of all, refused to vote for his actual top scum read when he was at -2. Meanwhile Toal's been doing some light bussing on IA while refusing to actually commit to a vote against him, and is now actively protecting IA while refusing to give an alternative. It's those two and it's almost painfully blatant at this point.
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Nov 29, 2021 23:12
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Maer, RF, Sandwolf, would any of you be willing to vote IA so we can actually move the game along? It's pretty clear Toalpaz is going to keep trying to protect him, so it's up to you at this point.
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Nov 29, 2021 23:17
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Also if we don't execute, we're basically getting no new information from this point on since there's likely a scum roleblocker who can shut down Maerlyn forever (she's not dying so IA can keep up his Voyeur claim), so we're going to be back at this situation without Merk.
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Nov 29, 2021 23:21
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 Sandwolf, IA has a role claim with zero utility, and after three days of this game all we have from him is "...Uh Toal is town, but I only really believe it because he's following my lead, and I dunno, my counter claimer is scum?". He's consistently refused to actually vote his scum reads and is constantly just going "oh woe is me" rather than actually making cases. His flip tells us way more than anyone else, IMO. It'll tell us a lot about Toal, RF, and Maerlyn if he flips. Plus, if he does flip town (he won't), we lose basically nothing of value and still get a hard clear on Toalpaz.
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Nov 29, 2021 23:32
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Also if we somehow can't agree on an IA lunch I'm down to just slam Toalpaz out of the game at this point because they are not even pretending like they have an interest in scum hunting.
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