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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Hello I'd like to sign up for my semi-annual game. I would like to be Nero Wolfe, who is really pissed at all of you that I had to drag my fat lazy rear end to Los Angeles instead of sitting in my NYC brownstone playing with orchids. I'm very good at detectiving and reading people for filth and bad at anything that requires me to not be fat and lazy.

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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Deadmeat5150 posted:

You get Barney Fife. Maybe. I dunno it's random.

Oh. In that case I'm gonna hope Chloe Decker is in the pile, with the super power of "gets to gently caress the Devil."

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandicap posted:

And has Amenadel's necklace so super strength too.

:love: grandi you just get me

Let's be unofficial masons again

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Okay I was told this was a ball in LA and I packed fancy dresses that show off my bomb-rear end legs and now we're in a creepy mansion in England. Not cool.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

PlasticAutomaton posted:

Anyways if someone confesses to the murder, I will go ahead and give you cookies.

What kind of cookies? I'm not going to jail for some oatmeal raisin bullshit

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

I’m asking the miller to claim

I'm asking Barney Miller to claim

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Hal Insandenza posted:

This is why I miss you when you disappear for a year at a time

Awww, Hal. How've you been?

I miss all of you, but my sucking at Mafia games would get old if I did it too frequently.

Idle Amalgam posted:

Also everyone should roleclaim. We might be able to bust this thing wide open if get the facts straightened out.

I'll start. I'm a... *checks notes and badge* ...a cop, strange. What about all of you?

*Jots down 'is a cop' next to his own name*

Guys I think IA is lying here I mean I have reason to believe someone else entirely is a cop not that I'm counterclaiming on d1 that would be suicide

Toalpaz posted:

Are you on the take?

What are you offering?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

postmodifier posted:

of all the goddamn parties to come out of retirement for, of course this has to happen before I even get a drink in me

personally, I'd rather if the killers just up and confess now so that we can get to the most important part of the event

namely, playing around in the giant hedge maze outside

that's a top class hedge maze, for mazing in, hedgely

This person definitely has the right idea: they are in favor of hedge mazes and booze

b-minus1 posted:

I’m voting toal

b-minus1 posted:

Getting scum pings from plastic and postmodifier

b-minus1 posted:

Whoa hal actually rolled scum this time. It’s been awhile iirc

In b4 binus names the entire game as scum

Also known as the Ariadne Oliver approach to crime solving

hambeet posted:

sandwolf once tried to offer me weed and when I asked if he was a cop he ran off and hid behind a bush.

Whose bush?

..... sorry that was p bad

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Maerlyn posted:

Binus trying hard on very little does ping me but he does the same schtick almost all the time so I'll refrain. I don't do turbos but a binus turbo would be funny.

Trying implies effort, I think bee is just throwing out names

Turbos are always funny. I turbo'd my RL spouse in his first ever game.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Maerlyn posted:

What is scummy about Plastic, postmodifier, or Hal?

Maerlyn posted:

Ack, Huma. Not Hal.

Hang on wasn't it hal that binus name checked?

b-minus1 posted:

Whoa hal actually rolled scum this time. It’s been awhile iirc

Where are you getting huma?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Humalong posted:

ok what's the point of a safe word if you're just going to ignore it

Your safe word has a lot of S's in it. I feel like that would make it difficult to pronounce in stressful situations.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

i think you misread his post

Is this the beet-stepping-up-for-binus post?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Idle Amalgam posted:

I move my pawn two steps forward, 1 step back.

I put my hand up on your hip
When I dip you dip we dip

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

yeah and as a fellow clown posted i concur with that assessment.


SiV nothing really there either, though i was slightly amused that siv gave one explanation and one correction about binus to maer a couple of posts after IA said i was scummy for trying to run in to bat for binus.

87% of my effort posts today have been trying to figure out WTF is going on and I'm still not sure

Is that the post IA was talking about?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Deadline is 8:17 am, ok that explains why suddenly there are 40+ posts ffff

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

my most suspicious read rn is Plastic though:

throwing shade at Maerlyn for being the single scummiest person in the game like this after saying acting that way makes someone definitely town doesn't feel town-minded to me

##vote Plastic

Hang on but those two posts seem internally consistent to me

He asks someone to not be the scummiest person in the game, but doesn't vote them, and makes a case on someone else, because he thinks they're town, because: scummiest person in game is town

What you call throwing shade just reads like someone frustrated with someone else for a pattern

quote:

God dammit Maerlyn can you for once not be the single scummiest person in the game.

Maer do you get voted out d1 a lot?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

spacing in vienna posted:

87% of my effort posts today have been trying to figure out WTF is going on and I'm still not sure

Is that the post IA was talking about?

I'm quoting my own post yes I'm too lazy to scroll back

Beet were you suggesting

A: that you thought I was running interference for binus

B: that the timing was funny

C: that maer was being inconsistent

D: that the whole situation was amusing

E: other/ Not Otherwise Specified?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Hal Insandenza posted:

Lol I probably wouldn’t even consider voting SiV before D3

Hal let's be in thread masons. Our masonry will consist of 90s jams.

I offer up the tootsee roll which apparently is deliberately spelled like that maybe so they can't get sued?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

b-minus1 posted:

Lets turbo someone starting with the people I called scum

Idle Amalgam posted:

##vote bee

Sure thing, boss

hambeet posted:

i think you misread his post

spacing in vienna posted:

Is this the beet-stepping-up-for-binus post?

Basically this: was this post of beet's the one ia called a defense of binus? I kinda thought it was just going with the joke

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Ok I need to be up around 8ish anyway so I'm going to set an alarm for like 7:30ish. Just in case I don't make it back,

##vote Maerlyn

since they're in the lead.

I like the idea of looking into IA, but nobody else is voting there ATM.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Damnit I name dropped Ariadne Oliver and even the Hercule Poirot character didn't get it? My little grey cells, they are outraged, Hastings.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Weirdly I was going to defend this post of Maer's:

Maerlyn posted:

No one needs to worry about deadline, I'll self hammer if need be. I am going to look back over posts now.

because to me in retrospect it looked like a townie letting the rest of town know that we didn't need to stress, that we weren't in risk of NLing, which was my concern when I logged off at around 2 am.

But that's not how she explained it here:

Maerlyn posted:

If I thought I'd be the only one posting in the middle of the night I wouldn't have worried about it. I was trying to put down some thoughts and didn't want someone to come in and hammer me out of the blue. Also may be selfish on my part but didn't really feel like being a D1 lunch based on nothing.

This is more self preservationist and less winking to an uncertain town.

Maer: why wait 2ish hours between your "don't worry I'll self hammer" and shooting binus?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

Mr White killed himself in order to throw off the trail, done, let’s go home folks

Hal Insandenza posted:

Merk had the least posts, that’s the sort of person merk would kill. I think merk might have done this.

Suicide cult, calling it now

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Maerlyn posted:

I was also considering you or Plastic but I was actually being nice to you after our Pathogen debacle and Plastic died early in an ongoing game.

Binus felt like there could be some information to pull from his flip (I also felt like he was acting scummy but in retrospect I think he was playing it up to come up with someone to cop). I'll be frank and say I'm not mad about it...I preferred scum but binus being a paranoid cop is a special hell for town.

Also 100% true, I rolled RNG after I'd kind of decided and it gave me 1 (binus was first on the player list) so even the RNG gods agree.

This post I really don't like; shooting for info is ok I suppose if you don't have any good scum reads, but skipping a scum read to shoot for info is weird, and so is using RNG to duck responsibility.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

eh it's happened now. just less info can be drawn from voting patterns, hey is that crab dip still okay do you think?

I mean we're trapped at a murder house, never a better time to risk it on some iffy crab dip

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Humalong posted:

I thought the Binus shot was fine. Not great to pick him but he ended up flipping negative town utility and he would have played it hilariously.

Granted it came with Maer’s back against the wall, but also granted the thread didn’t seem very hopping walking up to deadline after I fell asleep.


merk kill either feels random, shook meta pick, or like the scum team wanted someone to point out “hey they killed the second lowest post count!!!”

Now that you pointed it out, who's the lowest?

(This is lazy yes but I'm on mobile so I don't have an easy way to check)

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

i had to google that person and now i understand.

I'm just a nerd who loves murder mystery novels so do not mind me

Googling may not have given you the full joy of Ariadne Oliver as a character so I need to ramble a little: she was Agatha Christie's own self-insert, except not in a Mary Sue sense -- she was a famous crime novelist who was a complete hot mess. She would get involved in murders and announce loudly that so-and-so did it, based on Women's Intuition, and later go "ha, see, I was right" because generally she'd end up accusing at least half the cast at one point or another.

She also bitched constantly about people who found plot holes in her novels (like "oh wow, African blow darts are actually six feet long and not six inches? I just checked and literally no one cares") and that she thought her famous detective was annoying and persnickety.

It's especially funny that she would usually go on these rants while talking to Hercule Poirot, Agatha's own persnickety famous detective.

... Ok I'm fine back to Mafia

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
Ok I've been blowing off the game this weekend mostly because it was Hanukkah and there were in-laws but I'm going to actually effort post at some point.

... Possibly now? Let's see if I can crank up the Give a gently caress Meter.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Idle Amalgam posted:

I'm sure sanity is a factor in this even if we all aren't mechanically cops, FWIW beet came back as town.

Back to the drawing board... unless, yes, of course, my reads are infallible it must be, hambeet must be the godfather or I must be insane.

##vote beet

K I was a little wary of IA d1 because I felt like the hambeet-defending-binus mess thing was a big nothing burger but I don't see how anyone doesn't get this joke?

Also I'm kind of upset bc I was working up to a fairly solid "hey look, that's twice now that people have been shading IA for specious reasons, let's see who is pushing it and why" theory, but it was IA pushing a theory about beet the first time, not someone slandering IA, soooo my Ted talk is an abortive failure

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Idle Amalgam posted:

Oh fine, until I have something more concrete.

Detectives, we benefit from being forthcoming with our night actions this game I think.

##unvote

Cooperate and we will have this figured by nightfall.

Ok IA I was about to write up a TED talk that apparently had you as the victim of an entirely invented conspiracy of low grade shading so I'm clearly not even remotely on top of this game so imma ask. Is this another funny joke like voting for beet was, or are you legit role fishing like cray?

I mean if this was a "everyone is either a cop or scum" dethy variant I could see the logic, but we've had one VT flip and that fucks it all sideways

My phone is too new, it keeps thinking I want to say "ducks"

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

Because it’s not who he targeted? :shrug:

Hambeet you are a delight to play Mafia with, I just wish to say that. That is all.

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Idle Amalgam posted:

The vote on beet is just a joke, kind of. He was legitimately suspicious to me d1. My night action legitimately came back town (Kill me if you want scum) on beet, hence the unvote.

I do think being more open with actions here will be beneficial now and maybe at end game. Mid game will be too easy to muddy up with lies about fake actions.

Ok yeah I thought I remembered you being serious about this. I feel like this drags us too close to Night Action Bingo, which inevitably fucks town when we don't realize there's one more scum than we thought or whatever.

Also it forces people to out themselves as cop / VT / possibly other PR, and that seems really bad on d2?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Toalpaz posted:

:hmmyes:

also lol ##vote mae it just looks like the equivalent of a scum vig on the way out and scum team is probably powerful cause of all the maybe cops floating around.

We're all cops here.

I'm tempted to say if we've got sanity craziness we may not need an overpowered scum team to balance it.

Also hey toal what's up. Are you scum this game? You can tell me. In fact that would help because I can never loving read you, ever, I don't think I've ever pegged you as scum or town or anything other than "yup, that's toal."

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Toalpaz posted:

I feel like town mae would have omgussed shot one of her voters (who could have been scum pushing her).

B- was just a convenient target, because we floated his name and was town.

I missed that we didn't get a vote finder post at EOD. does anyone know what the count was? Yes I'm lazy but again, mobile, and I did just determine binus was still parked on his toal vote from joke phase

Until you said this I missed that not only was binus not voting Maer, but I don't think he had even mentioned her in his scum picks

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Humalong posted:

I think unknown cop sanity is enough of a balancing factor that scum probably don’t need extra kills, but it’s worth considering in light of her content

Crap ignore me I'm just quoting hum late unintentionally

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

merk posted:

:zombie:

If you die doing what you love, then you never worked a day in your life.

I wanted to make a joke here about "damnit Poirot you were hired to investigate a murder, not have a wild orgy with those circus performers" but it's not working right

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Hal Insandenza posted:

This was my first way of thinking. However after sitting with it more I have landed on it being fairly neutral again. Regardless of alignment you are gonna shoot there if you are about to die anyway and binus is as good as anyone

Hal are you scum? Sometimes when you are scum you start doing this very subtle "well, yes, it could be, but also it doesn't have to be, maybe everyone's right and we should all try to get along" peacemaker thing and sometimes I can spot it but again subtle

Also you rebuffed my offer of in thread 90s jam masonry :(

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

Also I think the merk kill points more to a scumteam who’s a little blue. He hadn’t done much yet so I think it was fear. This is not meant to be persuasive, just my thoughts.

See this is funny because my immediate thought was that it was super old school. Wasn't there a point in time where merk always got killed n1 if he was town, so if he was still alive on like d4 it was plausible to wonder if he was scum just for that reason alone?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Sandwolf posted:

Also I think the merk kill points more to a scumteam who’s a little blue. He hadn’t done much yet so I think it was fear. This is not meant to be persuasive, just my thoughts.

Also sand wolf I haven't actually thought you were scum yet and it's d2 so either we've stopped that particular loop of ours or you actually are scum :thunk:

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spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
(I'm not actually calling sandy scum on the basis of me not thinking he's scum. For the record.)

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