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Schlong Connery posted:Any "geek" content that made it to network tv in the early 2000s received way more praise than it deserved. Remember heroes? lol yes
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Schlong Connery posted:Game of Thrones. The worst part was i kept watching well after i knew it was bad, because of some sense of investment from reading the books(which also got bad) I still think the first season is great tv, it only got worse from there though
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Nov 28, 2021 14:00
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Saved by the Bell. Terrible plots, terrible acting, cheesy emotionally manipulative “special” episodes, obnoxious characters, etc.I don’t know why I loved it so much when it originally aired. I was 10 at the time, so that might explain it. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Full House. Same as Saved by the Bell. Just godawful. America’s Funniest People. I don’t know why I thought Dave Coulier was the pinnacle of comedy back then, what with his “Cut. It. Out.” and his “Fast as fast can be! You’ll never catch me!” jackalope character. Dude is the king of obnoxious fuckwits, and the show was not as funny as advertised.
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Nov 28, 2021 14:42
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Schlong Connery posted:Any "geek" content that made it to network tv in the early 2000s received way more praise than it deserved. Remember heroes? At the time, I thought the first season was fantastic and fresh. Then the second season happened  Made it halfway through the second season before I nope’d out, and I understand it only got more convoluted and idiotic from there. I don’t even want to revisit the first season because it’s also most likely dumb as hell.
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Nov 28, 2021 14:48
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Good news. They're remaking saved by the bell just for you. Fresh Prince, too.
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Nov 28, 2021 14:49
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Yeah, I know. Television executives just can’t leave lovely properties where they belong: in the past. Except Fresh Prince owns. Won’t be the same without Shredder, though 
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Nov 28, 2021 14:52
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Nov 28, 2021 15:05
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Fresh Prince owns because it's actually got some sensible poo poo to say half the time when it's not Carlton hopped on caffeine pills. The episode where Carlton realizes cops will just treat him like poo poo for being black even when he's doing nothing wrong is real af for a show catered to adolescents. The episodes about Will's dad and his feelings over it are well done and emotionally solid. Will Smith was a funny and likeable dude when he was young and given a role where he's a smarmy but fallible teen who gets blowback versus his later roles where he's mostly just an annoying smug piece of poo poo insulting people nonstop (I Robot is the absolute worst for this, he's such a huge unlikable rear end in a top hat in it). The show actually demonstrates that sometimes authority figures are wrong and Will sometimes is right too when it comes to Phil. The disparity between their lives as far as wealth and privilege are concerned is approached in the show but even Uncle Phil has common ground with Will as he oftentimes is similarly as aware as Will about race issues, whereas Carlton is naive and sheltered af but also has his time to shine. The secondary characters like Jazz and Geoffrey are cool n funny. Compare that to Fullhouse which is insanely vacuous garbage and 99% of the time the lessons are just complete status quo bullshit and are beyond preachy in a way that isn't enjoyable at all like Fresh Prince. It's such bland crap. It may be the blandest show ever made. I loving hate it. Also Fresh Prince has the best YouTube poops
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Nov 28, 2021 15:06
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Airwolf and MacGyver were crucial components of my formative years and are utterly unwatchable today.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:08
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Slugworth posted:It's even funnier than I remember. But yeah, there are a *lot* of jokes that are basically "lol, ur acting like a gay". They do blackface a few times as well. But the character they have do it is meant to be incredibly out of touch, and stupid. Theres a bit more nuance to it. Its presented as a bad mistake that nobody should do. Its probably not a joke theyd pull now though. Saying "30 Rock didnt age well" was a bit of a trope on certain parts of reddit a few years ago. I personally think pouring through old media trying to find poo poo to be offended by for updoots is a bit of a pathetic way to spend time. I think its a pretty timeless show with great direction that had a few missteps and insensitive moments. Also LOL at them calling out Bill Cosby in 2009.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:11
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Will Smith was a funny and likeable dude when he was young and given a role where he's a smarmy but fallible teen who gets blowback versus his later roles where he's mostly just an annoying smug piece of poo poo insulting people nonstop I've disliked him for a long time and never stopped to think about it, but you really nailed it. Also his kids are garbage monsters.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:12
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I think 30 Rock is one of the funniest comedies ever. Its aged incredibly well for sure. Although one of the main actors is a murderer.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:12
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yeah the blackface episode of the sarah silverman program aged terribly
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Nov 28, 2021 15:13
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I loved Miami Vice when I binged it 12 years ago and while it's still watchable, nearly every episode is 15 to 20 minutes too long and will probably be uncomfortably racist in one way or another
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Nov 28, 2021 15:14
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Fresh Prince owns because it's actually got some sensible poo poo to say half the time when it's not Carlton hopped on caffeine pills. The episode where Carlton realizes cops will just treat him like poo poo for being black even when he's doing nothing wrong is real af for a show catered to adolescents. The episodes about Will's dad and his feelings over it are well done and emotionally solid. Will Smith was a funny and likeable dude when he was young and given a role where he's a smarmy but fallible teen who gets blowback versus his later roles where he's mostly just an annoying smug piece of poo poo insulting people nonstop (I Robot is the absolute worst for this, he's such a huge unlikable rear end in a top hat in it). The show actually demonstrates that sometimes authority figures are wrong and Will sometimes is right too when it comes to Phil. The disparity between their lives as far as wealth and privilege are concerned is approached in the show but even Uncle Phil has common ground with Will as he oftentimes is similarly as aware as Will about race issues, whereas Carlton is naive and sheltered af but also has his time to shine. Uncle Phill also owns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8i8lfsoGk Love the Cyrano de Bergerac reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW9pklBXqk4 This owns. You Are A Werewolf fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Nov 28, 2021 |
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Nov 28, 2021 15:16
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You Are A Elf posted:Uncle Phill also owns. Haha I've never seen the second one, original Aunt Viv ruled. She fit the show so well where everyone's fallible, she'd sometimes screw up or get embarrassed too. Once they replaced her the new wife sucks and is just generic sitcom bullshit with Uncle Phil forced to act like a doormat.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:20
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Ive actually been rewatching 30 rock and it def holds up. Unbreakable Kimmy shmidt is a show i remember loving but Ellie Kemper’s quirkiness is like nails on a chalkboard to me now. Seconding parks and rec Leslie Knope sucks and is a shitlib
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Nov 28, 2021 15:27
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You Are A Elf posted:Love the Cyrano de Bergerac reference. Wait I thought Uncle Phil was a judge not a partner at a law firm
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Nov 28, 2021 15:28
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:....whereas Carlton is naive and sheltered af but also has his time to shine. Oh man, that episode where Carlton buys a gun was loving dark.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:28
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SilvergunSuperman posted:original Aunt Viv ruled. She fit the show so well where everyone's fallible, she'd sometimes screw up or get embarrassed too.  OG aunt Viv was also part of what made the show. Replacement aunt Viv was so bland and uninteresting.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:30
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They were merely illustrating the phenomenon of the Replacement Aunts, which was at its peak in the 90s
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Nov 28, 2021 15:31
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Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:Oh man, that episode where Carlton buys a gun was loving dark. Yeah it's a good as hell episode. Thats why the show stood the test of time. A lot of the poo poo that you watched as a kid that holds up is the stuff that didn't assume you were an idiot that couldn't handle it. Hence why a lot of Disney shows are unwatchable poo poo but I can pop on Gargoyles any day of the week and have a good time
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poo poo that's aged poorly for me, id say Clerks. I thought it was smart and relatable but now that Im older I just dislike all the characters, Dante especially. Hes a lazy misogynist who feels justified in his ennui. Hes Holden Caulfield. It was definitely made for the generation before me, and ive noticed this tendency in some 90s stuff where theres this focus on making characters "deep, like so deep, man". Id say its probably a response to somewhat vapid tropes of the 80s. But Smith's dialogue just comes across as overly deliberate and preachy and doesnt have much to say.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:33
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Oh poo poo, is that Hank Azaria as the first cop? And agreed on all points re: 30 Rock. It remains one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, with several jokes set up in S1 not paying off until S3, or even the final season. And for all the cringe homophobia, the treatment of race in general is incredibly well done, with Liz Lemon frequently being called out for her unconscious bias. And the reason they called out Cosby so early on is that Hannibal Burgess, who broke the story onstage during a standup set, was a writer on the show.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:34
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Home Improvement and Buffy are both wretched dickhole. 3rd Rock From the Sun has aged bizarrely well, I have no idea why but it's very enjoyable.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:39
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everything i thought of was already said. more surprised by the shows that do hold up for me though, most of them are cartoons like adventure time or gravity falls. watched those shows repeatedly when i was young, like 10-15; recently restarted adventure time as background noise while i work on projects but legitimately got engrossed in it. i assumed i just had nostalgia goggles for it but after a few seasons the writers seemed to recognise that adults were getting into it, so they started targeting that audience as well in their writing
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Nov 28, 2021 15:42
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That cartoon with the gems or whatever the gently caress sucks balls
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I've been a goth kid for forever and I've had to learn to bite my tongue and say "this isn't for me but I can understand it was influential to you and why you like it" instead of my actual true feelings of "this is unimaginably bad, all of the TV and movies this subculture likes are laughable, and Joss Whedon should've been fired out of a cannon for his approach to writing even if we didn't find out he was an abusive jerkoff sex pest"
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:That cartoon with the gems or whatever the gently caress sucks balls Jem and the holograms yeah a lot of 80s shows don't hold up
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Nov 28, 2021 15:49
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Plant MONSTER. posted:Jem and the holograms yeah a lot of 80s shows don't hold up I tried rewatchibg Thundercats and it was impossible. I don't really like poo poo like Avatar but it at least has like... actual substance to it. GI Joe is just utterly worthless. DuckTales is p good still tho
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Nov 28, 2021 15:52
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Seconding Clerks and Mallrats as being just ahead of my 'time' and that when younger I thought they were pretty wild as a result but really lame now (aside from dated references). I will watch them every 2-3 years simply for nostalgia but there's a lot of eye rolling involved. Home Improvement was bad when it was ON. I never liked that show. Sorry, not trying to 'that guy' it up as if I'm too cool for it (I totally AM), but even when watching it I remember thinking "This is what the 90's are. This is it. This is how it's gonna be." It was SO blammo white person 90's it was like sirens going off, and I should have been too young to realize that at the time.
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Nov 28, 2021 15:54
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that was a joke KotH loving rules
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Plant MONSTER. posted:King of the Hill sucks Explain yourself
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Poohs Packin posted:Explain yourself Well, even though they retracted their statement, I'll step in here and offer a possible explanation: It's boring, dumb, and not funny. So that may be part of the reasoning there.
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Plant MONSTER. posted:that was a joke KotH loving rules K
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pretty soft girl posted:I've been a goth kid for forever and I've had to learn to bite my tongue and say "this isn't for me but I can understand it was influential to you and why you like it" instead of my actual true feelings of "this is unimaginably bad, all of the TV and movies this subculture likes are laughable, and Joss Whedon should've been fired out of a cannon for his approach to writing even if we didn't find out he was an abusive jerkoff sex pest" Whedon literally ruined dialogue for the majority of modern blockbusters. His influence is poisonous poo poo that has bred a new wave of garbage insincerity in film because the writers are too cowardly and pathetic to allow their characters to exist within a film's universe wholeheartedly, instead they treat the plot and what happens around them as a stupid joke like they're speaking directly to the audience with every quip and crap-rear end unfunny line. It's this bizarre near third wall breaking poo poo where the writers constantly assure you that the goofy or incongruous stuff you may notice is something they noticed too. It makes me long for the insane hypersincerity of Arnold action movies where he's going absolutely apeshit and ridiculous in a stupid rear end loving plot like Eraser or Running Man but he doesn't have to make stupid jokes about how dumb the situations he's in are.
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Yeah home improvement was serious dogshit, but I still bet it's better than according to jim Confirm/deny?
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Whedon literally ruined dialogue for the majority of modern blockbusters. His influence is poisonous poo poo that has bred a new wave of garbage insincerity in film because the writers are too cowardly and pathetic to allow their characters to exist within a film's universe wholeheartedly, instead they treat the plot and what happens around them as a stupid joke like they're speaking directly to the audience with every quip and crap-rear end unfunny line. It's this bizarre near third wall breaking poo poo where the writers constantly assure you that the goofy or incongruous stuff you may notice is something they noticed too. *smirks at the rest of the posters in the thread* Sounds like someones a little...stressed out.
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Who What Now posted:Wait I thought Uncle Phil was a judge not a partner at a law firm He starts out as an attorney and then becomes a judge
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