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Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

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DON'T JOKE ABOUT ALEC BALDWIN KILLING SOMEONE IT'S NOT FUNNY I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN THIS








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Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

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DON'T JOKE ABOUT ALEC BALDWIN KILLING SOMEONE IT'S NOT FUNNY I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN THIS









Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I AM A TERRIBLE WIZARD! ASK ME ABOUT BEING A WET BLANKET!
DON'T JOKE ABOUT ALEC BALDWIN KILLING SOMEONE IT'S NOT FUNNY I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN THIS








Pb and Jellyfish
Oct 30, 2011


God I loving love matte paintings in movies. I really wish they were still common, they add so much creativity and surreality to a film. I think my favourite of those you posted is the one from (I think) Red Sonja, with the animal bone bridge. Any way you can add the names of the films they are from?


Raiders of the lost Ark


From Dusk till Dawn

Pb and Jellyfish
Oct 30, 2011


A couple more, as I remember them:


Return of the Jedi


Poltergeist

*edited post to remove black borders

Pb and Jellyfish fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Nov 30, 2021

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!




These are cool as poo poo, but yeah please post what they all are

Payndz
Sep 22, 2006

I'm Peter Graves, and I was wondering if you could direct me to the natatorium, as I'm attending a Scuderia Ferrari team-building exercise. Thank you. I'm Peter Graves.


There's a great book called The Invisible Art by Mark Cotta Vaz and Craig Barron about the classic era of matte paintings. So many older movies had way more of them than you'd think; the odds are if you could see a set's ceiling, it wasn't really there.

Unfortunately I think the book's long out of print. Looking on Amazon UK, the paperback is going for over £400 used.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe

I watched the first four Star Trek films this past week and they're packed with great classic matte paintings. It seemed like every ten minutes there was a new matte painting to look at.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009



Pb and Jellyfish posted:

God I loving love matte paintings in movies. I really wish they were still common

They still are, kind of. Every VFX studio still employs Digital Matte Painters as a separate group of artists from people who do 3D environments, and although it's more in the realm of photo collage now, it still involves a lot of painting to make the light and texture match the surrounding environment.

I get what you mean about the surreal feeling of classic matte paintings though. Nowadays directors commonly complain about things being too "painterly".

Ad Astra's a good example of how classic matte painting has evolved.

While we did build a 3D model for the lunar city, it was very basic, and based very closely on this concept art, which the director loved and wanted us to match exactly:

As you can see, very clean lines and not a lot of complex shapes or extra detail.

As the movie progressed, the director changed his mind about matching the concept when it became clear it wouldn't hold up on screen, so more detail needed to be added by a 2D DMP artist. Pretty much every element in this image that doesn't feature in the original art was added by the matte painter:


The other angles of the base had the same issue. The 3D model the director approved wasn't detailed enough to hold up, so a digital matte painter had to save the shots by painting bespoke detail into it. This also created a minor continuity headache, since the director wanted to see specific branding in certain shots - meaning the giant neon cowboy moves around the base (potentially as some kind of soulless mechanical guardian).

Robot Style fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Dec 2, 2021

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007







Lynch's Dune

Couldn't find a higher res one sadly.

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Mr. Grapes!
Feb 12, 2007
Mr. who?

Yeah OP it would be awesome if you labelled the movies. Some of those look rad and I'd love to see them in the actual film.

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