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Welcome to December. Hope you all enjoy the Holidays. Mask up and Vaccinate for Omicron Current Events: - New COVID Variant: Omicron - COVID Thread for COVID stuff: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3979298 - Chris Cuomo suspended from CNN for helping his brother attack his accusers - Inflation skyrocketing fastest since 1990 - School Shooting in Oxford, Michigan - Dr. Oz running for Congress in Pennsylvania (despite living in New Jersey) - Killers of Ahmaud Aubrey found guilty - Previous Prosecutor arrested for misconduct. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Baronash posted:No mention of the biggest crisis facing the nation this December. Gee, I wonder why so many old men with beards might be missing... e: EHF me and you are of the same mind.
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Dec 1, 2021 03:37
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a.lo posted:there is only one Santa though Those are Santa's helpers, and we've murdered them with COVID.
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Dec 1, 2021 03:47
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Professor Beetus posted:Take it to the Covid thread. Yes, COVID discussion remains in the COVID thread. UnknownMercenary posted:This morning Twitter rolled out a new safety policy against posting images of people without their consent, and as expected it's being used by chuds to successfully mass report against anti-fascists. Yeah this is basically exactly what everyone knew would happen with the new policy. Its loving awful. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 04:11
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Willa Rogers posted:No post timer anymore? My bad, I forgot to apply it. Its on now.
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Dec 1, 2021 17:32
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Willa Rogers posted:Sorry, you have a ways to go to meet the posting levels of VitalSigns, Leon & me. Off topic but Jeff and Admins are still reviewing. but no Reports continue to flood in, we just do not act as often unless its getting hateful/angry.
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Dec 1, 2021 17:38
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socialsecurity posted:Unless it's the_steve and your post is disagreeing with a succ zone poster then it gets probed right away as posting against posters or personal attacks, meanwhile his friends calling others We'll start a thread to discuss the Feedback here in the new year, hopefully by then Jeff and the Admins will have wrapped up. As it is, let's return to Current Events in the US.
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Dec 1, 2021 17:50
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InsertPotPun posted:man, the party that wants big government off our backs sure is using the government to get further and further onto our backs...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The only correct Big Government is my Big Government.
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Dec 1, 2021 18:37
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Fritz the Horse posted:For what it's worth, back during the Feedback thread there were some posters commenting about how USPol/USNews/US Current Events threads were actually just chat threads. If you're not aware, you can click on the Re: column values and see the top 30 posters for a thread. Here's the Nov US Current Events: https://forums.somethingawful.com/misc.php?action=whoposted&threadid=3983623 and here's the previous iteration which ran much longer: https://forums.somethingawful.com/misc.php?action=whoposted&threadid=3965530 This is a really good post, gonna grab this and share it in the Mod discussion forum.
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Dec 1, 2021 18:49
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Update on the School Shooting https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1466015507224702976?s=20
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Dec 1, 2021 19:20
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Cow Bell posted:It'd be a real shame if people used the current events thread to discuss the current failure of the political system to address any of the current issues. Instead, such discussions should be silo'd off to their own thread that will be conveniently closed.  Current Events is for current events. Also: gently caress off with the "You just want to shut down conversation by having us have a dedicated thread for it since its such an active discussion!". Nobody is closing threads to secretly suppress discussion.
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Dec 2, 2021 15:41
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Lib and let die posted:No, the dipshit with the waluigi avatar does enough tedious aggroposting to shut that conversation down in-thread. Again: There's plenty of meat on the discussion of the political failure of the Democratic Party to be its own thread, the idea that it needs to be actively debate in Current Events seems just lazy rather than necessary. And no, he was specifically saying that we silo off conversations to suppress them, and that's straight out of tinfoil conspiracy town.
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Dec 2, 2021 15:51
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Lib and let die posted:I don't think it's out of line to look at historical failures of a party when trying to analyze why a party might be currently failing to address urgent events. I don't think "current events as an island in the river of time" is really a worthwhile medium (but I'm not a media lit professor!) to try and make sense of our current political nightmare. What's the "threshold" on what kind of stuff can be brought into the current events discussion to contribute to a discussion of why democrats are failing to deliver, are failing to build party loyalty, and seem fractured and dissident internally, if not examining the historical causes that brought them here? The depth of those current failures is going to be well outside the realm of Current Events, that's all I'm saying. I feel like that would be an active discussion all on its own without people having to dive through it in the CE thread to find out what's actually going on. Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What the gently caress is happening to Mike Pompeo? Unless Mike suddenly found that top notch diet/exercise regimen, that's gotta be health related.
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Dec 2, 2021 16:00
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Smeef posted:He chose... poorly. Mike Pomep is eating "The Stuff" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stuff
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Dec 2, 2021 16:06
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Lib and let die posted:At the risk of delving into a topic on which I've been forbidden to address in D&D (it has its own silo'd homework thread from which I'm threadbanned, and media analysis definitely doesn't constitute a "Current Event") you have to try and wrap your head around the idea that Americans are, by and large, just...TV People. We (and let me point out - I use "we" here because I do not see myself as 'above' such influences) need stories and narratives, lofty ideals, heroes, villains, and anti-heroes struggling with and against each other. Can you imagine any better way to build a narrative of "these far left ideals just don't work in America!" than putting full-bore institutional support behind a visibly flawed candidate, watching them blow up and self destruct their own movement publicly, and then saying "Well we told you these policies weren't popular enough to win, and that these guys are just rabble rousers, but we gave them the benefit of the doubt and tried to work with them and they turned out to be ineffective and rude. Can we get back to electing Pragmatic Democrats now?" I didn't forbid you to do anything. Post to your hearts content, I was saying that its a fairly broad discussion to be had.
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Dec 2, 2021 17:15
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Cow Bell posted:The voting thread was literally created because people (Like LT2012 currently is) were annoyed the conversation kept cropping up in previous iterations of this thread. The voting thread has been locked for months. In fact the last time you probed me and said we had a whole thread for this kind of conversation, the thread was locked then as well. I agree though; it can't be much of a silo if you can't even post in it. We are reviewing why it was closed. But the idea that its a conspiracy to shutdown conversation is really dumb. E: We're fairly certain it was closed by the OP, we reopened it, and they closed it again. I will make a new one. New Us voting/politics thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3986700 CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Dec 2, 2021 17:55
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Lib and let die posted:I'm coming dangerously close to shitposting in a serious thread but i thought that was funny enough to be worth the risk and now I can't get it out of my own head, god dammit Permission to poo poo post occasionally granted. Seriously not really hitting that.
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Dec 2, 2021 18:53
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Yeah re: CRT, at this point they'll just pull something out of their rear end to defend it even if you call them on it.
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Dec 2, 2021 21:25
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Cranappleberry posted:Don't assume my or anyone else's race, please. "CRT" for Republicans includes any history books covering The Civil War, Civil Rights Movement, Jim Crow, KKK, etc. So no, not just law, sociology, and psych.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:18
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Anno posted:My wife, who teaches 6-8th graders, once joked that if a parent asked her what she was doing re: teaching CRT that her response would basically be to ignore what CRT really means and appeal to their likely sense of American exceptionalism. Explain that teaching children hurtful lessons about the past so that they may learn from them is how America remains the land of opportunity and freedom for everyone. Some nonsense like that. I laughed at the time but I don’t honestly think it’s the dumbest idea. ....its the dumbest idea because the response would be "Well why teach them those things if we're already the best! FREEDUM AINT FREE"
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Dec 2, 2021 23:43
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It sounds like the kid needed serious mental help and his chud parents chose instead it treat him like a wimp. They are more than culpable for their child's actions. Meanwhile, Tom Cotton is again being a gigantic hypocrite: https://twitter.com/TrumpsTaxes/status/1466566152470028300?s=20 CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Dec 3, 2021 20:57
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Guys, we all know how gun chat is going to go, please try to minimize it.
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Dec 3, 2021 21:14
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Vasukhani posted:Why is it the parents responsibility to get their kid into therapy (I doubt they could even find a therapist if they wanted to). The state needs to have ultimate authority over minors, not leave it to randoms. Jesus Christ Vasukhani, do you ever read back what you post?
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Dec 3, 2021 23:13
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I still don't know what the logic - even gun fetishist/CHUD logic - is behind sending your kid to school with ammo, buying him a gun, and texting him "lol, I'm not mad you did it. Just learn to not get caught!" after the school calls you could be. Mental Health is generally viewed with disdain in a lot of conservative households, between calling the kids "Babies/Wusses" and belittling them as "Needing to man up", its entirely unsurprising if its true that they are Chud/MAGA types that they would choose to ignore their kids mental health and instead just assume they need to push more toxic masculinity on a 15 year old including exposing them to unsecured firearms.
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Dec 3, 2021 23:20
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https://twitter.com/Allie_Elisabeth/status/1466888434086207492?s=20
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Dec 4, 2021 01:08
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Spoke Lee posted:https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/03/us/michigan-oxford-high-school-shooting-superintendent-message/index.html Yeah they are running. Almost willing to bet there's going to be a standoff.
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Dec 4, 2021 04:25
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Thom12255 posted:Chris Cuomo fired from CNN. If they were willing to fire him, I can only suspect the "new info come to light" is pretty loving bad.
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Dec 5, 2021 02:20
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Okay gents, the gigantic slapfight about Dem's and Voting NEEDS to shift to the Us Politics thread, this is at this point so far off topic of actual Current Events, political or not, and there hasn't been an inch one way or the other towards closure. If you want to continue it, do so there https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3986700
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Dec 5, 2021 23:04
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Majorian posted:It's actually not. The Budapest Memo didn't establish an alliance or anything particularly formal, just a pledge to "seek immediate United Nations Security Council Action" if Ukraine were ever attacked. True, but at this point I feel like something needs to be done about Putin's particular brand of aggression, while he's doing it more to stir up support at home, its become a serious issue.
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Dec 5, 2021 23:13
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Majorian posted:All right, but what, exactly? We're currently supplying lethal aid to Ukraine (a continuation of Trump's policy, which was a shift from Obama's policy of non-lethal aid only). Sending in troops to conduct exercises might help in the short-term, but may also make the Russians more determined to put the screws to the government in Kiev once we've left. Personally, I don't see how us getting more involved isn't going to just make the situation worse. Given that Putin is actively stacking Armored Divisions around the Border, there really isn't any way to make it better. Putin's largely neutered EU resolve with Gas dependency, already annexed Crimea, is 1/10th the way into Ukraine already. The idea that its going to get better at Putin's expense is unlikely. But the idea of letting Ukraine fall will likely make everything worse.
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Dec 5, 2021 23:29
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selec posted:JFC no. You learned nothing from history. The US cannot reliably prosecute wars of any kind. Just get all the way out of here with this. No war thanks, period. "Yeah, let's just let Russian prosecute wars, problem solved" What a loving hot take. The idea that Russia should be allowed, unopposed, to continue to annex territory for no other reason for Putin to feel happy about having a buffer zone is pretty dumb. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 00:16
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Terminal autist posted:I sort of buy into the rogue oblast theory that was floated by Moscow. So you literally bought the excuse a kleptocracy is using to justifying annexing countries. Just...no. readingatwork posted:A military response *might* make sense if it was coming collectively from an international community that had the Ukranian people's best interests at heart but that's simply not the reality we exist in. This is the US engaging in a morally dubious proxy war unilaterally in order to weaken a political rival and maintain it's own global base of power and civilian wellbeing won't be factored into the equation in the slightest. A hypothetical war to "defend" Ukraine will likely end up turning the country into a meat grinder as civil war breaks out and 2 of the largest superpowers exchange blows on their soil. It would be an absolutely apocalyptic event for anybody living there just like every other time something like this has happened. Not to mention the fact that once we win (assuming we win cleanly and don't end up creating Vietnam III) we'd probably install the most right-wing psychopath we can find who will usher in a new dark age of religious tyranny, austerity and legalized theft by the state. The problem with this entire view is that Russia is the one largely ratcheting up tensions, and has been for nearly a decade. Part of why Putin was so enthusiastic about Trump's Administration was their willingness to not only turn a blind eye to them but actively make excuses for the Putin Regime's actions. The idea that we should allow Ukraine to fall to avoid tensions that already exist with Russia is concerning.
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Dec 6, 2021 01:57
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readingatwork posted:Could you please take your Ukraine warmongering to the other thread? I can’t debate it here without being yelled at by the mods. Its a current even for now, I don't see the issue. Asking other mods.
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Dec 6, 2021 18:50
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VitalSigns posted:We were asked to move it to the EE thread last night Okay well I'll go with GJB's recommendation now unless news comes about Us involvement in Ukraine.
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Dec 6, 2021 19:11
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Bugsy posted:Can't wait for a trump judge to say "lol no" at this. Yeah, not to spit on their attempt, but the SCOTUS basically said "Lol, States Rights" to this previously.
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Dec 6, 2021 21:58
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Could we stop the three stooges act and stop slapfighting about each other and slapfight about Current Events instead, thanks
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Dec 7, 2021 01:34
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VitalSigns posted:Oh ok so TV can't make the Boomer generation (b 1946) definitionally different then I don't think that's true at all, TV adoption rates were pretty quick during a prime time for the boomer generation: https://ourworldindata.org/technology-adoption By the 1960s Television adoption rates in household was skyrocketing, which most Boomers would've been either kids or teens (since the boomer generation includes up to 1964). Black and White TV stats are not as well tracked but were pretty common in households by the late 50s. And that's assuming that's the only time they could be influenced. By the time Boomers hit adulthood, TV availability and pricing made it super affordable to have a color TV, during a prime time of their adulthood years that could shape their beliefs. The Sean posted:edit: wait, lol, are you not understanding that someone born in 1946 would be an infant and infants don't meaningfully watch TV? Yet in 1960 90% of households had a TV when said infants (you keep referring to 1946?) would grow older and watch TV? And that when they were born most households did not have TV? This. The idea that television had no influence in a generation that actively grew up during the prime of its adoption is laughable. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Dec 7, 2021 |
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Dec 7, 2021 18:50
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VitalSigns posted:I am Yeah but at this point you are changing the definition of things that influence change and handwaving away one of the most influential technological changes of the 20th century. Between Radio and Television, and eventually the Internet, the ability to spread ideas and change people's mind vastly changed. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 7, 2021 |
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Dec 7, 2021 19:07
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Willa Rogers posted:Do you all think growing up with video games influenced millennials? I think it has, although I'll admit I'm not certain WHAT influence it has had.
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Dec 7, 2021 19:12
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TulliusCicero posted:This argument is like saying older Millenials weren't influenced by the internet or smart phones because it wasn't widely available when we were born, and is beyond missing the point and willfully ignoring facts. And its worth noting: Your early adulthood years through your early twenties are formative years for mindset and ideas. VitalSigns posted:No I'm not. I'm saying generational marketing pseudoscience terms don't describe this phenomenon. But it does make them objectively different. Hell, the major changes in ANY generation makes that generation objectively different, but especially ones that focus on the spread of news, ideas, and propaganda. VitalSigns posted:But what's the definition of a Boomer, is it defined by something TV related like the birth year that had 51% or 70% or whatever % of it's babies get a household TV by age X? No, it's defined according to infrastructure needs and/or marketing opportunities that occurred because a bunch of GIs all came home and boned their wives around the same time. Yes, that's what boomer means. But no, that has nothing to do with how that generation was influenced in their thinking by having easy access to information and entertainment that their parents didn't have. By that logic: The Fox News era of our parents generation didn't happen either. Remember, you are talking about a Generation that goes not just in one year (1945) but up until 1964. That's 14 years. That's the Boomer generation. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Dec 7, 2021 |
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Dec 7, 2021 19:15
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