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Xiahou Dun posted:The gently caress is KR? I meant Christina Ricci. Goddamn K instead of a C.
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LionArcher posted:I meant Christina Ricci. Goddamn K instead of a C. I'm not singling you out, but I swear to god every time someone comes into this thread they immediately get a bunch of the name's wrong and it drives me up the wall. There aren't that many characters! How is this hard? I'm terrible at remembering names and I got this down without trying and I watch most of the show on drugs! Plus, imdb is a thing that exists!
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Everyone consistently spelling Tai as Tia has driven me mad. Also I forgot I had this saved. The creators have since confirmed that yes, she really is dead.  It's the "she looks older" that really makes this.
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Oh right, I forgot to share my appreciation for all the links and screenshots of wingnut theories. Was fun reading through them after finishing the season. Thanks!
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I liked the one that the opening is not a flashback, it's a flash forward, the girl is Shauna's brat and the cult will eat her in the woods. It ends with an actual flashback of Misty to confuse viewers.
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Kuiperdolin posted:I liked the one that the opening is not a flashback, it's a flash forward, the girl is Shauna's brat and the cult will eat her in the woods. It ends with an actual flashback of Misty to confuse viewers.  I actually really like this theory.
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I mean, again, when Arrow freaking had Ollie secretly taken OUT of the island and then put BACK, all bets were off in terms of dumb flashback twists.
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LesterGroans posted:Maybe supernatural stuff is happening, maybe it isn't, After Jackie's final vision of the guy welcoming her it pretty clearly is.
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Alhazred posted:After Jackie's final vision of the guy welcoming her it pretty clearly is. A person hallucinating while freezing to death is not confirmation of the supernatural, it's exactly the kind of ambiguity they're going for. And honestly the way they cut to Shauna made it look like Jackie may not have been the one having that vision in the first place. The most explicitly supernatural thing we've seen is the eyeless man.
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Alhazred posted:After Jackie's final vision of the guy welcoming her it pretty clearly is. That guy is meant to be the dead French Canadian aviator / woodsman, I thought. I could be wrong. Seemed as ambiguous as any other scene like it in the show. What about it made you feel otherwise?
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pokeyman posted:Oh right, I forgot to share my appreciation for all the links and screenshots of wingnut theories. Was fun reading through them after finishing the season. Thanks! Glad you enjoyed them  I am looking forward to the insane theories season 2 will bring us. The subreddit has quieted considerably and I have the facebook group on mute because the mods don't want anyone being rude to newcomers who are now flooding the page with their hot takes and the constant refrain of "am I the only one who noticed [xyz]???"I made this meme but I don't want to be banned from the facebook page 
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eighty-four merc posted:That guy is meant to be the dead French Canadian aviator / woodsman, I thought. I could be wrong. Seemed as ambiguous as any other scene like it in the show. What about it made you feel otherwise? He's the one thing that's out of place in her hallucination. He only really makes sense as a supernatural incursion. Right now there's more signs towards a supernatural explanation than anything else.
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Alhazred posted:He's the one thing that's out of place in her hallucination. He only really makes sense as a supernatural incursion. Right now there's more signs towards a supernatural explanation than anything else. I don't necessarily disagree, but you could easily argue that Jackie was hallucinating what she imagined the cabin guy looked like. And because it's Jackie of course he's hot.
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Or it's Shauna dreaming about the Frenchman
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Teen Shauna feels guilty about Jackie's death by exposure. She starts having vivid dreams of Jackie dying in other, terrible ways of which she is the cause. The opening scene with the girl falling in the spike pit is one of those dreams. What bothers her most is that Dream Shauna feels no remorse for killing Dream Jackie.
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Whenever there is something unexplainable, it's always best to assume a wizard did it. Haven't y'all ever seen Star Trek?
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clown shoes posted:Whenever there is something unexplainable, it's always best to assume a wizard did it. Haven't y'all ever read Discworld? 
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clown shoes posted:Whenever there is something unexplainable, it's always best to assume a wizard did it. Haven't y'all ever seen Star Trek? well if wizards are involved then that should put to rest the argument of weather or not there's supernatural elements
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Feb 9, 2022 12:21
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Big Taint posted:Teen Shauna feels guilty about Jackie's death by exposure. She starts having vivid dreams of Jackie dying in other, terrible ways of which she is the cause. The opening scene with the girl falling in the spike pit is one of those dreams. What bothers her most is that Dream Shauna feels no remorse for killing Dream Jackie.
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RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:This seems very reasonable It doesn't though? It's obivous that the vision of Jackie dying is the last thoughts the bear have before Lottie stabs him in the head.
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CODChimera posted:well if wizards are involved then that should put to rest the argument of weather or not there's supernatural elements Could be a bad wizard.
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Alhazred posted:He's the one thing that's out of place in her hallucination. He only really makes sense as a supernatural incursion. Right now there's more signs towards a supernatural explanation than anything else. I don't have a set opinion, because I think the ambiguity is the point, but I don't see how anything in a hallucination and/or dream confirms that the supernatural exists no matter how weird. Maybe the random cabin man is the ghost of the dead pilot, or he's Jackie's orthodontist she had a crush on in 6th grade, or he's a TV detective Shauna watches. Clearly, the show is expecting you to read cosmic significance into his presence, but also you could still explain it as a random thing some character's subconscious populated into a vision because we have no information. This show likes operating in that space; the line between supernatural phenomena and (often drug or trauma-fueled) hallucinations are purposefully blurred.
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When I was in the hospital for surgery I had an extended hallucination about being a pirate. This did not lead me to conclude that the transplant ward was haunted, nor that it had a history of swashbuckling adventure. Hallucinations happen all the time without requiring wizards or goblins. Are most occurrences in your daily lives unexplainably mysteries to you people?
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Xiahou Dun posted:When I was in the hospital for surgery I had an extended hallucination about being a pirate. Tides come in, tides go out, you can't explain that
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Xiahou Dun posted:When I was in the hospital for surgery I had an extended hallucination about being a pirate.
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Alhazred posted:There's a different between real life hallucinations and fictional ones. In real life they are random, but in fiction they usually have some deeper meaning. While I agree with this, I don't know if it means anything in this case. Your post reminds me of how much I think psychics are completely and total unscrupulous bullshit liars, and in fictional media, I believe every single goddamned word they say.
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Alhazred posted:There's a different between real life hallucinations and fictional ones. In real life they are random, but in fiction they usually have some deeper meaning. The point is that people are jumping from “I can not immediately explain a phenomenon” to “it obviously must be witchcraft” without any middle step. This is ridiculous. It’s ridiculous in a very human way, one that’s mirroring the fiction, but it’s still miles away from how reality works. There’s weird poo poo in the show, but people are ignoring pretty basic world knowledge to justify the assumption that there must be magic in the show. Just look at the people ITT who forgot how fire works. Or pregnancy. Or brains.
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I wonder how many elderly patients Misty has killed
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Got to be in the dozens, it'd be like one of those articles that come out every few years about a nurse accused of killing like 56 patients
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stuck in quarantine again and i'm getting high and i am binging this show, station eleven and archive 81 and it is not confusing at all. AMA
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My partner has made me a YellowJackets x Air Bud: World Pup zine for Valentines day and I can't stop picturing how great that title sequence would be.
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A take so hot it scorched the flesh from my skull
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coronatae posted:A take so hot it scorched the flesh from my skull God Lottie, take your (non existant) medication instead of using that as an excuse.
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I mean, I'd like to think if I regularly took antipsychotics and was thrust into a stressful situation where I couldn't access them my first act would be to explain to my friends/potential caregivers that there's a chance I go full fruit loops. A talk like that might impede my dramatic rise to prophetic cult leader, sure, but unless I've pre-read the script to know that's how it's going to manifest I don't know if I'd take that risk.
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I think you're underestimating how much worse the stigma that surrounded psychiatric illness was in the 90's
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coronatae posted:I think you're underestimating how much worse the stigma that surrounded psychiatric illness was in the 90's Actually, the one thing that rings untrue for me in the series is how accepting everyone is of homosexuality. I went to a highschool of about 1500 kids in the 1990s and not a single person felt safe enough to be "out" in the entire school, except for one female teacher who a lot of people regarded warily. We've progressed a long way since 1996 in that area. (Granted: small Canadian city school, not a major centre of progressive thought.)
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How much of that is them being a group of female athletes? Out lesbians in sports have been commonplace for much longer than gay male athletes, but I am also too young to remember the mid-90s with any cognizance of that kind of thing. Also it’s more believable for some characters than others. Nat identifies with outsiders. Laura Lee died before learning about anyone being gay. Jackie seems like she’d be a Mean Girl about it. Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 15, 2022 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:Also it’s more believable for some characters than others. Nat identifies with outsiders. Laura Lee died before learning about anyone being gay. Jackie seems like she’d be a Mean Girl about it. Yes, exactly. These are teenagers from a middle class suburb in 90's NJ, so I doubt any of them would be scandalized (Laura Lee excluded), but they'd absolutely be dicks about it. Jackie being a passive-aggressive mean girl seems very possible. Ben would probably face condescension, but Taissa and Van would probably face a ton of gay panic. Being a girls soccer team who shares a locker room, etc. Also, Nat being unusually tolerant for the era makes sense. As you say, she already feels like an outsider, and has a clear resentment for all kinds of norms. I don't question that she'd have progressive queer attitudes in the mid-90's.
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Pixelante posted:Actually, the one thing that rings untrue for me in the series is how accepting everyone is of homosexuality. I went to a highschool of about 1500 kids in the 1990s and not a single person felt safe enough to be "out" in the entire school, except for one female teacher who a lot of people regarded warily. We've progressed a long way since 1996 in that area. (Granted: small Canadian city school, not a major centre of progressive thought.) I agree that this is a weak point of the show! I wish they'd taken some time to explore this in the context of it being 1996. As it stands, this is the most generous interpretation I can give: they're having this party to make peace with their impending death by starvation, what's a little canoodling between teammates. It is really weird to see younger audiences' takes on this show because they have no sense of what the 90's were actually like.
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