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Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

more photo I took

praying to the lord no one thinks these are horny






I just lurk this thread, but man, you sure are bringing up the horny thing unprompted a lot.

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Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

here are some more from my inspo selection



























hopefully people donít get too turned on by all these horny pictures

echinopsis posted:

photo I took

hopefully only a minimal amount of people will find this horny





echinopsis posted:

more photo I took

praying to the lord no one thinks these are horny





Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

whether or not it's mimicking film, I like raised blacks because it makes an image look like it's printed on a matte surface, it makes it "smoother", easier on the eyes

https://www.instagram.com/johnwingfield/?hl=en

this guy does it, and it makes his profile look so gloriously smooth

Man, I hate that smoothness. It aestheticizes the image, and removes any of the emotional weight or content. It makes it about the presentation, rather than the content.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

personally, I love to enjoy it

We've already established the caliber of your taste.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

this is bullshit lol, almost half the pictures I posted donít even have people in them

but regardless, I am happy with what I like, and the people whose opinion matter to me seem to feel the same way. a bunch of weird nerds from the internet donít like my photos and think my taste is poo poo, oh well.

this is a lovely analogy but itíll have to do : itís like I like/make pop music, and iím getting dragged by a bunch of prog rock nerds

Personally, I think that interrogating what you like, why you like it, and the influences that create the things you like can lead you to a deeper understanding, and ultimately a deeper enjoyment.

Pop music and prog rock certainly each have their place. I think the analogy doesn't quite work, because the issue with the horny photos you linked is an issue of content, rather than genre. I'd say that the hornyness would more come out in lyrics, rather than in genre. To stretch the analogy I suppose we could say that the genre of the photos is portraiture, and the content is horny. Does that mean that all portraiture is bad? Of course not.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

i donít disagree, iíve certainly grown and evolved a lot in the last year. a part of that is also growing a wide range of influences and being open minded to what kinds of things I enjoy

although apparently itís all poo poo

as weíve gone over earlier though, it seems we all have a different idea of horny, or erotic, or glamour or whatever.

thereís definitely an undercurrent of opinion that not only do I have horny tastes with my instagram inspo (I still disagree) but also that itís a bad thing

I don't think horny is bad. Take Ren Hang (RIP). I love his work. Is it horny? Absolutely. But it's also interesting and unique.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

itís more that the people whose opinion I care about are people in the local scene and people who I am actually taking photos of


and conversely, if Iíve got people telling me my taste sucks and my photos are poo poo, but they themselves do photography work that I find disinteresting, well, I just donít know what to do with that information



iíve got pretty thin skin, and donít need extra reasons to doubt myself and avoid taking photos, so I am careful to share my work

I mean, I shared like 40 photos of work I aspire to be able to achieve, and I donít think anyone said anything positive about any of them at all.

which is fine, of course no one has to or anything, but it certainly highlights the disparity between what I think is good and what others do, and so then it leaves me wondering about how much weight do I give to the opinion of people who donít like any thing that I do

I went back and looked at the inspo photos and man, I'm sorry, I find them so boring. They're so generic. That's not to say that they're not technically well executed, and that they're not successful on some level. They certainly are. They're just so empty.

I definitely understand the desire to create them though, and I appreciate the desire to be able to capture a well crafted image that is able to evoke a certain mood. There is definitely a pleasure in the level of skill and execution there.

But they're still boring.

I dunno! This is tricky stuff. I struggle with it all the time also. It's tricky to figure out what you want from a creative hobby, what you want to say, what your real interest is. Or at least, it is for me.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

horny

oops, I meant "hairy"

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Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

hmmm I find these a bit disturbing

Yeah!

They're arresting, and unique, and don't look like anyone else but him.

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