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Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Oh hey we have a photos thread





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Oct 20, 2012









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Oct 20, 2012

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

I think you're just conflating bad wide angle photography with phone photography because most phone photographs are bad wide angle shots when you can really get some amazing stuff that doesn't look obviously wide if you put some effort in.

It can be an extremely useful tool in your toolbox if you take the time to understand the effect and how to utilise it.







These are all different lenses but taken are equivalent to 28 - 35mm full frame

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Beeftweeter posted:

looks ~45mm

It looks like an 80mm to me with the short dof and compression.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012



Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

Does she know you posted her picture on the Your Operating System is a Piece Of poo poo subforum of something is awful .com

Yes, she does. This photo is posted in a lot of places and my partner is fine with that.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

It's very easy to get along in the dorkroom if you are fragile about your own work
1: don't ask for feedback
2: don't post only horny shots of women in the portrait thread

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Don't be a guy that Chris Verene would photograph and you'll be ok
:nws:https://www.chrisverene.com/work/camera-club/camera-club-1.html:nws:

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Most posed shots of models are boring and say nothing apart from "Hey, look at this model". I much prefer engaging with the observations and criticisms of artsy landscapes.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

i learned a long time ago that no matter how many artsy photos of abandoned swingsets and collapsing walls you take, the only pictures you'll want to look at later are the ones with people in them.

this becomes even more true the more time passes. an old photo of a sunset or a car from the 1950s is fine, but a candid picture of your grandma and grandpa as teenagers is a gem

You are aware that The Dorkroom exists under CC and is specifically an art forum? I certainly love and look back on the photos I take of my wife, cats and friends but it is a different mode of photography and elicits different feelings. I'm not buying a photo book to look at the people the artist is close to I'm buying a photo book to engage with contemplate art.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

I don't think portraiture and art are mutually exclusive, it's the difficulty of having an internal connection to the subject, and creating the external connection with the viewer. It's the role of the photograper to illuminate the connection, to take their internal and make it external. You need to build the image or the relationship in order to make it meaningful.

Whether or not you get your internality across or it is received differently is moot. I'm a subscriber to the belief that once your photo is in the hands of the viewer your intent doesn't mean poo poo and the viewer is correct in pulling whatever it is they feel from it, bringing their own experiences and life. It is the building of connections, intentional or not, that is important.

I have plenty of photos of my wife that I slot into the art category, and plenty I view as personal snapshots.







Megabound fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 10, 2023

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

In my tenure I have tried to create some more safe, conversational spaces in the Dorkroom to fight that view of it as a hostile space for new posters, which I really do not think it is. The chat and low effort threads are chill zones for posting photos and are designed for new posters to dip their toes into.

Putting yourself out into a critical space is scary and it can be hard to remove yourself from your work and be objective about it yourself. No one's words or works are sacrosanct and I do not believe there is a monoculture. It is however a rare space where you can get honest feedback from some very talented photographers while viewing their own bodies of work and allowing you to decide whether or not you value their viewpoint.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

I sent you my camera plz respond

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Ah, I see you're conflating horny with good

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Lots of people tell me they like my photos of young mostly naked women and they find it inspiring and would love to take photos of young mostly naked women themselves.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

qirex posted:

why is every trendy insta photographer afraid of the color black

Lifted blacks are a curse photographers will never escape.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:

“full black” looks cheap. these days any digital device can display deep blacks and take photos with black, so in this regard, full black looks like every day amateur snapchat photos, whereas raised blacks was traditionally a limitation of film, which is much more exclusive

it also removes detail, and in some cases, challenges the notion that more detail is better. our brains will usually still see the same image (as in it’s not like it means we can’t tell what’s going on) if some shadow detail is missing, and in fact perhaps it’s a way of isolating the detail that is left

Lifted blacks look like film not because it's a limitation of film but because of the quality of drug store prints most people associate with the film era, it's emulating cheapness and lack of effort. Whenever you think of "film look" you're thinking of bad lly executed prints. It also doesn't remove detail, it just squashes it into a narrower band.

Getting feedback that people like photos of attractive young women isn't surprising, it's all in the most prominent visual language that we are all exposed to every day of our lives, advertising. You see it in everything from selling you glasses to influencers everywhere. Of course people like it, we're taught to and it takes nothing to engage with.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Photos of people as I do take them sometimes





Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:

here are some more from my inspo selection




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hopefully people don’t get too turned on by all these horny pictures

One man's quest to find the most middling photos taken in history.

echinopsis posted:

nah I have a lil bit of a clue but when you shoot full frame part of doing so is giving crop sensor peeps poo poo

Being elitist about sensor size is the dumbest poo poo known to man

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012



Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:

but regardless, I am happy with what I like, and the people whose opinion matter to me seem to feel the same way.

Strange that the Venn diagram of people whose opinion you care about and people who like your photos is a perfect circle.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012


Thank you, now I can dismiss this photo as bad not bad and poorly processed.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:

thanks for the fuckin support man

I can really tell that we have fundamentally different ideas of what good photography is
that's one of my favorite photos that I have taken

before I raised the blacks, there was detail on the person. the photo was not better when it had detail, and raising the blacks not only fixed that issue, but also then met my ideals and the style I promote and hope to continue promoting

What do you like about it? What does it say to you?

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:

thanks for the fuckin support man

I can really tell that we have fundamentally different ideas of what good photography is
that's one of my favorite photos that I have taken

before I raised the blacks, there was detail on the person. the photo was not better when it had detail, and raising the blacks not only fixed that issue, but also then met my ideals and the style I promote and hope to continue promoting

It was dismissive of me to leave it at that so I'll explain why I don't like the photo, leaving out editorial choices.

The photo tells me nothing about the subject there's no sense of place and no narrative. The subject is nothing but an object for desire, I find it reductive of the model.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

I think about Beijing Silvermine a lot as I really enjoy the understanding of people taken from their own collected but disparate photos: https://www.beijingsilvermine.com/gallery

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

echinopsis posted:



I cannot tell if this photo is worthwhile sharing or not

on one hand, I think it's kinda boring

but on the other hand, I wonder if it's a different landscape to what others are used to seeing, so perhaps from an interest point of view, it's worth sharing

anyway, that's some central new zealand

I like this the most out of everything you've posted but the edit let's it down.



The curve in the original is wild with no true whites or blacks

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Ren Hang's work can't be divorced from the culture he lived in and what kind of expression is allowed and accepted in it. An exploring of sexuality in the PRC is something very different to that same exploration elsewhere.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

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Oct 20, 2012


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Oct 20, 2012



There's a lot to like about this photograph, the dead grass, the shrouding fog, the manmade structures disappearing into the natural surroundings. It's already cold an uninviting. I find your edit just makes it muddy, needlessly reducing detail and texture that draws the viewer to look more closely. I like the detail on the wall of the structure, how it falls into darkness, the glimpse of base. I kept it a little bit warm, but not as warm as you had it as that eases that brightness a bit, makes it less stark.

Anyway, that's how I'd edit it. It's a good photo.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012


:hmmyes:

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

That rules

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Paid photography and photography as art aren't mutually exclusive, but it's what the photographer wants to pursue. Paid staged gigs for me don't have the appeal, it's just advertising. Advertising the band or the model or the product isn't interesting unless I'm invested in the subject itself, whereas the expression of will and desire of a photographer showing their vision of the world and communicating a built message is far more engaging to me.

I'm not here to look at a photo and go "That's pretty" or "that's well executed". I want to be challenged and explore through someone else's eyes

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Instagram and social media in general rewards that style, it's easy to engage with aesthetic. When you're in a space where discussion and consideration is more highly valued is it any suprise that it isn't as well received? It seems like your goals are all surface level. "I edit like this because people have said they like photos that look like this" is a fine tactic to increase broad engagement but it ends up making a body of work that looks like you're trying to sell Lightroom presets.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Birds birds birds





Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Achmed Jones posted:

yeah i've (accidentally) done normal vignetting when i set the aperture too narrow or when i'm trying to shoot through my telescope. was trying to figure out how you'd pull it off a white vignette

thanks y'all!

You could get a white vignette in printing. It's from light falloff by having an image circle not fully cover your sensor/film. You can have the same in a darkroom but in that process a lack of light would lead to a lighter image instead of a darker one, as you print from negative.

Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Speaking of printing I'm down in my big dumb reverse camera room today teaching someone how to wet print


My Stuff:


Their Stuff


This is their first time wet printing but they've got such a crystal clear vision for their photos they're nailing the execution

Megabound fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jan 28, 2023

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Megabound
Oct 20, 2012

Moving onto some big prints, 12x16 and a cool tool I use for bigger stuff





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