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May 11, 2008

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I'm pretty new to Final Fantasy, I've played the three Playstation games since 2019, and while I think FFVII is the best of the three, I keep thinking about FFVIII because it's so drat weird. At one point, one Hogwarts for Child Soldiers attacks another Hogwarts for Child Soldiers by launching rocket-powered motorcycles off ramps. The man character's sword has a gun on it which translates to an easy button that lets you do extra damage. The main villain talks like she's from Mortal Kombat. It's bonkers as poo poo, while also making room for great character bits like Squall risking his life to save Rinoa while she's floating through space. Not to mention how busted the combat is if you do a little bit of reading.

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also The Man with the Machine Gun deserves a post all to itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-eJvYM4vc

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TheGreatEvilKing posted:

FF8 is good, I'm like one of five people who likes Squall as a kid in way over his head, and the soundtrack slaps.

Irvine sucks and Cid is a worthless coward tho.

I like Squall too, he feels like a mix of Shinji and Rei from Evangelion. Heís cold and aloof to people around him because he doesnít want to let anyone into his life in case they abandon him. But also he was raised for the sole purpose of battling a great evil that threatens not only the world, but the very fabric of reality.

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I said come in! posted:

Yeah card mini-games are a weakness of hers. I think she went all in on the one for FF9 too.

Woof, Tetra Master sucks.

Edit: page 2 snipe

X-Ray Pecs fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 12, 2021

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Dark_Swordmaster posted:

. I also usually despise card games in RPG's so I literally have never played a single hand of 8's card game and don't know the first rule. Hilarious to find out apparently that's a major avenue of progression in this one.

Triple Triad (at least until they start introducing rules like Same and Element) is really straightforward, to the point you can learn it in one game without a tutorial. Itís simple, quick, fun, and if you do it enough at the beginning of the game, you can power level enough to not be threatened for hours.

Sensenmann posted:

It goes off the rails fast and never bothers to slow things down. Quite the opposite. Everything gets dialed to 11.

It's like a freight train hauling rear end straight into a mountain side to tunnel its way right through it.

Are you sure it doesnít go off the rails like some kind ofÖ Doomtrain? 👻

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Relax Or DIE posted:

i like that you can rent a car and collect a paycheck

I wish my job would give me a raise every time I completed a quiz with easily googleable answers.

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NikkolasKing posted:

She figured out Laguna was Squall's dad a lot faster than I did. I remember when I first beat the game in the early 2000s I felt so proud for eventually piecing it together when Kiros and Ward basically spell it out to you at the end of Disk 3. Here she is at the start of Disk 3 and she's on the ball.

My only defense is I was a young teenager at the time. I imagine everybody debating the topic back then were also young stupid kids.

I somehow missed this is while playing and only got it by listening to Retronautsí FF8 episode. I think I have trouble retaining information from text-heavy JRPGs.

Asterite34 posted:

Another useful tip: render Squall Blind

The blindness status effect doesn't set your accuracy to zero, it just subtracts 100 from the percentage chance of hitting. Squall natively has 255% accuracy. Meaning that even completely blind, he'll always hit. But the GAME treats this as a significant enough handicap that you'll get Limit Breaks easier.

You might think this is a Daredevil thing where blindness enhances his other senses, but no. Squall just puts on dark sunglasses, pretends to be blind, and while the enemies are feeling sorry for him he gets in a sucker punch.

This loving rules.

zakharov posted:

There's some frame rate issue in the remaster that makes the gunblade trigger much harder to use than the original.

It took me a little bit to learn the timing, but itís loving hilarious FF8 has an easy button that lets Squall do 50% extra damage.

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You donít need to draw repeatedly to get moves, AFAIK the list that first comes up for the Draw is all theyíll have, barring changing their level with abilities.

Also itís surprising you find it slow. Granted I came into 8 off the Switch port of FF9, but it felt really slick and responsive to me. Granted, I never used GFs in battle, but Iíve heard that the animations get very old very quickly.

aperfectcirclefan posted:

2. The systems seem convoluted but fun once you get the hang of it. I can't tell if its good to have multiple summons in my GF or if I should just stick to one?

Can you clarify what you mean by this? I think youíre asking if itís okay to junction multiple GFs to one character, which is good and recommended to give your characters the most abilities and buffs.

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aperfectcirclefan posted:

I just got up to Timber and that train mission. This game is cool but I think I don't like the junction system and wish I could just play this like a normal FF.

I think the junctioning would have been a lot more confusing if I hadnít read a guide laying out who gets what GF and what order to learn their abilities every time I got a new GF.

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aperfectcirclefan posted:

Oooo where is that guide

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/266152-final-fantasy-viii-remastered/faqs/72431/walkthrough-disc-1

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NikkolasKing posted:

Squall, called "Leon", is a semi-prominent character in KH, at least KH1 and 2, dunno about any of the others. He's voiced by David Boreanaz in KH1 IIRC.

He's in the Dissidia fighting games of course, as is Ultimecia. Dissidia actually gives her something resembling a personality and character.

Also how did I forget Seifer, Raijin and Fujin are weird little punks in KH2 and Seifer is voiced by Will Friedle which was perfect. (that's Eric, the older brother from Boy Meets World, and Terry McGinnis, the main character in Batman Beyond)

You forgot Selphie has blink-and-you-miss-it roles in both KH1 and 2. Sheís Someone you can practice fighting with on Destiny Islands in 1 and Iím pretty sure sheís only in the first cutscene with Kairi in 2 (I didnít 100% it so she could be in some other cutscene but I donít think so.)

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Kingdom Hearts hits the existentialism strong in the opening, with Riku asking if there are so many worlds out there, why were they born on this one, specifically? But then the rest of 1 and 2 are stopping little shadow dudes from messing up Disney movies and figuring out who the gently caress Ansem is.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKhHwpkL17o

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Arenít they from the Moon? Because I think someone with the hockey team uses Lunar Triple Triad rules.

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OhFunny posted:

I'm a little further in now and FFVIII certainly has the most interesting system of the classic Final Fantasy games.

Level scaling all enemies is a system I doubt many, if any, contemporary JRPGs had. The magic system feels so strange. You're literally pulling the spells out of different enemies.

I don't quite understand this choice. Level scaling to me means developers wish to discourage grinding, but placing spells on the enemies to steal has you grind in a different matter.

Again an interesting system, but I'm not sure it's a good system.

If you donít want to grind fighting enemies, you can grind Triple Triad instead! If you do that and turn on Enc-None you can bypass a ton of combat.

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Ultimecia forcing all challengers to go through the gauntlet of beasts to cover for the fact that she only has like Creeps and Geezard cards.

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Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I did not even play the tutorial for TT in my playthrough. To this day I don't know anything about it or how it works. I loving hate tacked on RPG minigames so I'm glad it was 100% optional and you didn't even need the tutorial match.

Is there even a Triple Triad tutorial? It starts really simple and gets more confusing as the game goes, but if you just play with Balamb rules, itís very simple to grasp.

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Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Started FFIX last night and it's a perfect loving example. The rules to its card game are minimally explained at the start of it and I promptly lost every beginner match to where the game told me I couldn't play anymore. Cool, I likely never will again.

hahahaha
Hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHA

I hope you donít mind not finishing FFIX

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Dark_Swordmaster posted:

But it did have mandatory snowboarding and submarines and motorcy--

I challenge you to a squat contest right now.

Rooney McNibnug posted:

VIII has "Squall! punch and block the Galbadian paratrooper!" and "Laguna! Block and slash at the very real dragon with this prop sword!"

Oh god gently caress that Galbadian paratrooper minigame, the low point of the whole drat game.

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Time Kompression, thatís what.

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Dark_Swordmaster posted:

This line of Googling is how I learned you can devour Rinoa and get a game over.

I love this stupid game.

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itry posted:

I require video evidence :dogstare:

I did some googling to confirm it; apparently during the Adel fight, Quistis can devour Rinoa to permanently gain 10 HP. Unfortunately thatís also an immediate game over.

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