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Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

Grip it and rip it posted:

Literally nothing about that is bizarre - you cant force people to get vaccinations, particularly if they are entering illegally. There is also a big difference in the reasons people come here on a visa (work, school, tourism) vs. why people cross without documentation.

As far as I understand the Visa system allows for infinite #s of approved persons to enter the country for very specific purposes. Establishing residency and acquiring citizenship are where there are some serious bottlebecks that definitely need to be reformed, but sadly Immigration is a topic where congress essentially had infinite power, so about the only way to create any kind of lasting change is bipartisan consensus.

All the people who are going to lose their jobs if they don’t get a vaccine are of course not being forced to get vaccinated. This is the definition of party politics over everything.

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Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

Jimmy Smuts posted:

The Space Force as a branch shouldn't have happened, and is almost real-life Spaceballs in some ways. But the individual members are good folks. And they seem to ride with the memes and take it all in jest, unlike some of the other services.

I disagree, I think its the natural evolution of armed forces. We will be colonizing Mars in ~20 years and I would rather have US have the lead than others. Yeah sure, it seems silly now, but its better to have an organization focused on space supremacy than an organization that has space as a second focus.

Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

Jimmy Smuts posted:

Why not just rename the USAF to the USA&SF (or something like that), and shift priorities internally more towards the space domain?

Air Force’s mission is to bomb the hell out of America’s enemies. Space missions are going to happen soon and you need an organization whose sole focus is on that. Nobody should give a gently caress that AF is losing resources, they have grown partially obsolete.

Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

Godholio posted:

Because having a Space Force doesn't actually CHANGE how any of that works, except possibly to put more money into the DAF. The regs are the same. The people making the decisions are mostly the same. Their name tapes are just a different color. Operationally, USSPACECOM still does the work. Space Force's job is to manage the people and facilities supporting that work...just like AF Space Command did.

This is hilariously optimistic. I think you're off by about a factor of 3 or 4. Unless you mean "colonizing" the way we colonized the moon for a couple of weeks total.

Space missions already happen, just not the way I think you're imagining.

No, as much as goons like to poo poo on Musk, space X has advanced rockets far faster than whatever bullshit contract NASA gave to legacy companies. Starship will fly in FY2022, with technology far better developed than loving SLS.

Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

Godholio posted:

That's because they were spending money the way NASA wanted, rather than Musk making the decisions. NASA funding kept Space X alive when Falcon-1s were failing left and right. Space X has done best when it's left to the experts rather than the politicians and the investment manipulators.

Sure maybe, but all that tells me is that NASA realized the benefit of a productive private partnership. Space X is so far ahead of Boeing that any contract to them looks like straight up corruption.

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Meshka
Nov 27, 2016

pantslesswithwolves posted:

So what exactly is your argument here? Forcible testing and vaccination of anyone suspected of entering the country illegally? Because you’re going to run into a phalanx of lawyers real quick if that’s the case.

How about enforcing immigrations laws?

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