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NRVNQSR posted:I'm not completely convinced that "Murder, She Wrote" and "Poirot" count as Copaganda. Or "Hot Shots". Also "Wire"?
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Xarn posted:Or "Hot Shots". And who the gently caress watches Adam-12, Mod Squad, or Mannix these days? EDIT: Oh my loving God, this idiot listed Police Squad! as Copaganda.
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Raised By Birds posted:Gary Varvel Unfortunately the state forced her to carry her hydrocephalic mutant baby to term in spite of the fact that by four months it was clear that it wasn't viable, not only forcing her to endure the trauma but also burdening the family with decades of medical bills.
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Also "Prison Break" and "The Fugitive," where they are explicitly going after the wrong guys.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:WATCH ANOTHER SHOW It's not like there's a lot of shows specifically about the reproductive rights of women.
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Discendo Vox posted:Wait wait wait is this a reference to loving wrong way Corrigan? A trivia figure from the 1930s? Raised By Birds posted:Gary Varvel
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Jun 25, 2022 10:01
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Raised By Birds posted:Gary Varvel Is she happy, because... no one will force her to abort her baby? Is she sad, because she intended to have an abortion despite being about 8 months pregnant? Is she horrified, because now she can't get an abortion to save her life after a last moment complication?
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There is zero chance Varvel considered that for even a second. There’s one person in the cartoon and the woman ain’t it.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:And who the gently caress watches Adam-12, Mod Squad, or Mannix these days? Nameless Pete posted:Also "Prison Break" and "The Fugitive," where they are explicitly going after the wrong guys. Nothing I love more than folks missing the forest for the trees when it comes to criticising leftist cartoons
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The Fugitive absolutely lionizes Tommy Lee Jones, Jesus loving Christ y'all.
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It's nitpicking, but also as a non-american I only recognize few of these, and for at least half of the ones I do I don't see how it fits the description without reeeeeealy stretching things 
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Xander77 posted:gently caress. I don't know if anyone outside this thread thinks about cartoons for more than a second, including the authors, but that cut off of the mother's face is like... That really should be the only edit for the "Fetus in a void" comics. Draw the mother being like" guess i gotta keep my rapists child now, hope i dont treat the child badly for no particular reason"
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Do you ever feel like if they suddenly repealed the 13th amendment, all the Conservative cartoonists would have a bunch of pro-slavery cartoons ready to print the next day? I don't think the Overton window is real, guys. Anything can be instantly normalized if they want it to be.
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The shows where cops are goofy, slightly incompetent but gosh darn it, they’re good people and they can pull together against overwhelming odds and make it so everyone is just a little bit safer (even if they break the rules now and then) is in fact fairly decent propaganda
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For gently caress’s sake, if they intend to have a baby, then they can call it a baby. Just like you can look at someone preparing batter and say “That cake is coming along nicely” but it’s still not a cake yet and if I served you a bowl of batter with candles in it you’d probably be less than pleased.
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SubG posted:I'm sure it's been commented on before, but the framing of void fetus politoons really highlights the fact that conservatives see women as a life support system for a uterus. No face, or head, or really any identifying characteristics, just a shadowy outline containing a womb. Xander77 posted:gently caress. I don't know if anyone outside this thread thinks about cartoons for more than a second, including the authors, but that cut off of the mother's face is like...
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Pants Donkey posted:For gently caress’s sake, if they intend to have a baby, then they can call it a baby. Given how they've turned "don't call trans men women" into "you can't say woman anymore" as a mainstream thing people believe, I bet this will also get traction and turn into "pro choice people are going to take your babies away."
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I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil?
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Alhazred posted:I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil? Trans people want to trans your daughters for "????" reason. They see someone else making a decision they don't agree with as them having their freedom taken away. So, they want to force them to make decisions they want them to make. For freedom.
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Alhazred posted:I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil? They 100% do. The number of people who lapped up that absolute dipshit accusation of "post birth abortion"...
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Alhazred posted:I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil? You'd be surprised* how open they can be about opposing sexual autonomy. I've only been on "hate mail opening " duty for work a few times, but it was amazing how much "don't have sex if you aren't willing to raise a kid" stuff was in there were along with everything calling us murderers and describing our futures in the Inferno. I laugh when I see those "is this about protecting women/the unborn or is it about punishing people for having sex" charts because they'll outright tell you it's the latter. It's the same reason they can be opposed to abortion while also opposing contraception, despite the obvious contradiction. It's always been about controlling people. *not actually surprised
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JamesBont posted:"And I'm sure my mom-to-be will make sure I have the best life possible, with access to education, healthcare, and--" Well if the baby happens to be born in a white middle class neighborhood it would be fine.
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Alhazred posted:I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil? Yes, absolutely, 100%. This is true for literally every other regressive position. They can't acknowledge that they want to take away people's rights to do things that don't hurt anyone else, because they know that's a bad look in modern society, so they frame it as their opposition wanting to force everyone to do that thing. They're going to force everyone to get an abortion. They're going to force everyone to be gay. They're going to force everyone to be trans.
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China Dailyquote:US act on Xinjiang so silly as laughable By Zhang Zhouxiang 22/6 23/6  by Adene from France The different pillars represent the different parties within the new French parliament. Charlie Hebdo  Good luck, Mr Coty They're drawing Macron as René Coty the last president of the Fourth Republic.  Retirees- We don't dare refuse them a thing
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Alhazred posted:I wonder what they think the pro-abortionists' endgame is . Like, do they believe that people want to kill babies just because they're evil? One thing right wingers love to concern troll about is "Democrats are the real racists trying to genocide minorities through abortion." They'll talk about Margaret Sanger created Planned Parenthood purposely for eugenics. They think that Dems force minority women to have abortions against their will and won't someone save those poor minority women from having the babies they definitely want to have killed?
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While deliberately ignoring that the places with good social welfare, contraception access, and sex education have far lower abortion rates than the places that banned abortion.
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Guavanaut posted:While deliberately ignoring that the places with good social welfare, contraception access, and sex education have far lower abortion rates than the places that banned abortion. Banning stuff only makes it more cool.
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They want to punish women for having sex. Even now, the “protect our babies” assholes on twitter are talking about abstinence and condoms. It’s never been about protecting babies. If they thought abortion was murder, they’d be rioting in the streets. I mean, if there was mass murder happening every day at a building in your town, would you just go there and hold up a sign and maybe say mean things to the murderers?
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100YrsofAttitude posted:China Daily Are those captions from the China Daily itself? It's remarkably by the numbers when presented in a string like that; practically a recitation of the narcissist's prayer.
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Pants Donkey posted:It’s never been about protecting babies. If they thought abortion was murder, they’d be rioting in the streets. I mean, if there was mass murder happening every day at a building in your town, would you just go there and hold up a sign and maybe say mean things to the murderers? A generation who kept getting called out "hey, if abortion is murder, why would there be an exception for incest and rape? Why are you just voting for Republicans rather than reacting the way you would to a genuine genocide?" didn't re-evaluate their ostensible stance on abortion, but rather raised a generation of true believers - abortion doctor murders who make no exception for rape, incest, or  .Maybe go with something else.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:China Daily What's with the... jumping lump thing? edit: oh no wait, it's the speech bubbles turning into hay and falling down. God this is poorly conveyed Procrastine fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jun 25, 2022 |
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Xander77 posted:Unveiling Republican hypocrisy has been a pointless "gotcha" for decades now, but this in particular has helped has caused the exact opposite of the... intended?... reaction. Noting the contradiction was potentially valuable for the proportion of the public who had never thought about it before. Many people don’t care and power certainly doesn’t, but for people who just accept it as common sense that those exceptions should be made, there’s a core of human compassion there that is worth trying to reach. Or that was in the now-gone end-of-history liberal order. Everyone’s been radicalized three times over by now.
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"Don't point out Republican hypocrisy; it will only make their opinions worse," is surrendering the narrative. They're gonna find a way to self-radicalize no matter what you do, and there is no clever argument to be made that will sway them. It is their opponents who believe in words. Anyone who is capable of listening to reason is pro-choice or living under a rock, in part because Republicans have long since stopped pretending they care about anything other than controlling minorities and lining their own pockets. Why should anyone else have to keep up the pretense? This is only happening because the system is broken and establishment democrats don't care enough to pick a fight over it.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:"Don't point out Republican hypocrisy; it will only make their opinions worse," is surrendering the narrative. They're gonna find a way to self-radicalize no matter what you do, and there is no clever argument to be made that will sway them. It is their opponents who believe in words.
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Discendo Vox posted:Are those captions from the China Daily itself? It's remarkably by the numbers when presented in a string like that; practically a recitation of the narcissist's prayer. Yeah that "article" is what was up on the site. They do one every week or so. They just put together a bunch of older cartoons, which are usually published with a title only, to make a point. I've posted the ones where we haven't seen the majority of the comics, since the text is, as you pointed out, incredibly on the nose, and of very little interest.
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Pants Donkey posted:They want to punish women for having sex. Even now, the “protect our babies” assholes on twitter are talking about abstinence and condoms. I mean, looking at places with actual genocides, a protest and mean words are kinda more than the average (mostly because there's no real risk though). Leaving aside the actual terrorism, but that happened in Nazi Germany as well as USA.
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Somfin posted:Nothing I love more than folks missing the forest for the trees when it comes to criticising leftist cartoons I refuse to give stupid statements a pass just because I agree with the larger message.
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