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Redgrendel2001 posted:I mean how in the name of God do you feed a story to an access journalist and manage to make yourself look worse? by getting hyped by months of people buying that you're actually the victim in this situation and that it isn't just a bunch of highly payed professionals throwing tantrums
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poverty franchise https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/status/1488542910580670467 quote:For West, though, the final straw came when the Lakers repealed the lifetime season tickets he said the late Dr. Buss had promised him so many years ago. Without any warning or explanation, his wife, Karen, received a text message from the Lakers last season informing her that the family’s seats for their games would no longer be granted. https://twitter.com/17ofem/status/1488549204645462017 https://twitter.com/perspectivlog/status/1488545815111122944 https://twitter.com/LakersPH2/status/1488546505593999370
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That is pretty lovely. Like I know we can say lol rich people whatever, but honestly I’d expect that behavior from the Sixers owners more, except they’ve actually done a good job of working with Sixers alumni and bringing them back in and such. Like seriously The dudes on the loving NBA logo, and you can’t spare seats for him and his wife? Like I mean the negative PR outweighs any benefit in cost, especially when the current owners father promised it to him. Edit: Good to see Lakers Twitter is trash. That’s said,enough with the negative stuff, Maxey is so good. I can’t remember how did we even wind up drafting him, didn’t know a bunch of other teams pass on him like idiots? Like I know Matisse we got through the fleecing of the Celtics. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Feb 1, 2022 |
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Lockback posted:He's been good and probably a decent pick for the game but probably not as a starter. The west is pretty mediocre this year and there weren't a lot of Not-Center frontcourt choices so he got a pretty nice Warriors boost (who also made a big campaign with a KPOP star or something?). I didn't believe you about him being a decent pick for the all-star game. So I tried to go through the list of F/Cs in the West and see how many I could put ahead of Wiggins. I was only able to think of 10 players more deserving. So yeah I guess he's not an awful pick, which is mind blowing Jokic LeBron Gobert KAT Draymond AD Ayton Porzingis Zubac Nurkic Wiggins
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iamsosmrt posted:Mike Muscala randomly hit some clutch shots for OKC that gave them an unneeded W at their very end of that season and their pick went to the Sixers. Oh god yeah I forgot about that. That was hilarious/amazing, as most things involving the Sixers and the draft are.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Oh god yeah I forgot about that. That was hilarious/amazing, as most things involving the Sixers and the draft are. Oh yeah, one more stroke of luck was that COVID canceled the tourney that year where Maxey very likely would've raised his draft stock and been a lottery pick.
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a new study bible! posted:I can’t believe that Ben told the Sixers that he didn’t want a birthday gift and they actually didn’t buy him a birthday gift. Seriously, this is the story put out by Simmon's camp? He sounds like a high school teenager
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triple sulk posted:Very small sample size but I’m starting to believe shake and maxey could replace ben triple sulk posted:maxey is better than ben simmons triple sulk posted:lmfao please do not trade simmons + thybulle + maxey for harden triple sulk posted:maxey is a future all star triple sulk posted:maxey should have been a top five pick lol thank you covid for canceling the tournament triple sulk posted:maxey was a top three pick lol triple sulk posted:Maxey isn't getting the superstar calls yet but will one day triple sulk posted:Tyrese Maxey, having grown extremely thicc and powerful over the offseason, will blossom into the all-star he's destined to become
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Redgrendel2001 posted:https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1488553303487229953?t=NTFlT1fSpWf4Gl8QnQFKWQ&s=19 Does this mean he's sitting out until they trade Russ
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That draft was pretty good for guards. Well, all guards except for The Ringer's best prospect in the draft Killian Hayes
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 I saw a couple people link that Shams tweet over the last few days and thought it should be clarified that this 100% does not mean MPJ won't be back this season. It means that the Nuggets got approval for the exception, so it's there if they need it as the final piece of some transaction. Cashing it in would put MPJ on the shelf for the season, but that step has not been taken, they're just being smart and maximizing their flexibility ahead of the trade deadline.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I didn't believe you about him being a decent pick for the all-star game. So I tried to go through the list of F/Cs in the West and see how many I could put ahead of Wiggins. I was only able to think of 10 players more deserving. So yeah I guess he's not an awful pick, which is mind blowing And only him and Lebron are guys who actually play the 3, which is kinda unofficially how FC is spit. Really, if they feel like they need positions they should do Bigs, Wings, PG.
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3992475 Trade deadline minigame.
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Lockback posted:And only him and Lebron are guys who actually play the 3, which is kinda unofficially how FC is spit. There is also Ingram who has been good enough to be a All Star this season.
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Glad I am vindicated in my take that Doctor Rivers is a meanie.
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Follow up to previous Nick Nurse related content https://twitter.com/CBCTheNational/status/1488489810692120585?t=PGJgHCzvLhCn1_-XZEabfg&s=19
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BWV posted:Glad I am vindicated in my take that Doctor Rivers is a meanie. he's not even a real doctor!
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aBagorn posted:he's not even a real doctor! on Bill Simmons can say his real name and only when he's angry
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aBagorn posted:he's not even a real doctor! what the gently caress???????? does silver know about this????
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WhyteRyce posted:That draft was pretty good for guards. Well, all guards except for The Ringer's best prospect in the draft Killian Hayes I still believe in Killian Hayes, no matter what noted moron Kevin O’Conman has to say about him
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So Ben Simmons wanted the DeAndre Jordan 2015 off-season experience.
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WhyteRyce posted:That draft was pretty good for guards. Well, all guards except for The Ringer's best prospect in the draft Killian Hayes Kevin oconnor is so smart
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Kibner posted:https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/1488590899584114688?s=20&t=-gAZ-C0Ix0hQ6p1BHzBZEQ What happened, not a subscriber
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Dejan Bimble posted:What happened, not a subscriber Joe Vardon Feb 1, 2022 39 Editor’s note: The players and coaches who spoke to The Athletic were granted anonymity so they could speak without fear of retribution from the Nigerian government. They stood inside the San Francisco International Airport, Peet’s coffee in their hands and the smell of fried noodles climbing up their noses, but this was no time to appreciate the pleasant jolt to the senses. When the final boarding call for United’s next flight to Tokyo went out over the loudspeaker, their stomachs dropped out of frustration. “It was terrible, I am not going to say it wasn’t,” one of them told The Athletic. They should have been on that plane. The Summer Olympics, after all, were in Tokyo. There was no better route to take than the straight shot out of SFO, more than 5,000 miles of Pacific Ocean, to the Japanese capital. Eleven hours. They should have been on that flight to Tokyo, but they were not. The planes they would later board were headed for … Frankfurt, Germany, a full day’s worth of time in the wrong direction. Why? They allege it was because the people that were supposed to support them, screwed them. Royally. What a nightmare. In this case, a Nigerian nightmare, as it was one of many avoidable, logistical disasters that befell the Nigerian men’s Olympic basketball team last summer. Team Nigeria was a roster of mostly NBA players, an accomplished band of NBA coaches and support staff, with a game plan for the first basketball medal in the country’s history. What transpired, instead, was such a disaster that when I ran into the members of the Nigerian team as we crossed paths through early NBA travel this season, and I thought I was being funny by asking if they’d “recovered” from Tokyo, their wide eyes or furrowed brows or shaking heads told the story. Players ran their own practices, with no coaches. Some assistant coaches who flew to Japan were never allowed into the Games. One assistant coach had to sleep on a training table — with no pillow or blanket. The team almost missed its first game, because it almost missed its first COVID-19 test. One player nearly didn’t make it home, because he had the wrong passport. Coaches still have not been paid in full, nor have they been reimbursed for all expenses. Almost as an aside, Team Nigeria went 0-3 at the Olympics. No wonder. “Mike Brown did everything — the caterer, organized practices and hotels. And obviously, he had a good team that he put together. But it was amazing. The players were so happy how things were working.” — Member of Mike Brown’s coaching staff If you didn’t know anything about Team Nigeria, it might surprise you to hear Mike Brown was its head coach. Yes, that Mike Brown, Steve Kerr’s top assistant for Golden State with ample NBA head-coaching experience of his own. He was not born in Nigeria (Columbus, Ohio!), nor were his parents, but that doesn’t matter. Countries can hire whomever they want to coach their Olympic teams. Brown hired Jordi Fernandez, of the Denver Nuggets, who was born in Spain, as his lead assistant. Most of the players Brown put on Team Nigeria were NBA players. Maybe not household names — although you surely have at least heard of Jahlil Okafor — but a roster full of men with league service time. Names like Gabe Nnamdi Vincent, Ekpe Udoh, Precious Achiuwa, Josh Okogie, Chimezie Metu, KZ Okpala, Miye Oni. They are Nigerians, or have Nigerian heritage, which makes them eligible. Brown sought to build out his Nigerian outfit like it was an NBA franchise — or, better yet, like it was Team USA. He hired a video coordinator (James Laughlin, Pelicans), an analytics coach (Sammy Gelfand, Pistons), equipment manager (Danny Alonzo, Warriors), head trainer (Roger Sancho, then of the Warriors and now the Lakers), an assistant for Sancho and a masseuse. Brown cleared two spaces in the Bay Area for Team Nigeria practices in June, at the Warriors’ old facility, attached to the Oakland Marriott, and at Merritt College. Once a week, Brown made sure lunch was catered by a Nigerian chef. And when training camp moved to Las Vegas, where the Nigerians would participate with Team USA, Team Spain and Team Argentina in Olympic tune-up games, Brown’s players stayed comfortably at the Park MGM hotel and casino. All of Brown’s obsessing over the details worked. Not only did the Nigerians pull off arguably the largest upset in international basketball history by beating Team USA in Las Vegas, but also, for good measure, they knocked off the Argentinians. In the game against the U.S., the Nigerians purposefully knocked away an American shot that was sitting on the rim, a goaltend in the NBA but not in international play. Brown credited Gelfand with teaching the Nigerians to do that. “We made history beating Team USA, but it would have been bigger history if we had qualified for the Olympic quarterfinals,” one of the coaches told The Athletic. The Nigerians won in Vegas by paying attention to the details. Once they left, the details were no longer up to Brown. “The day we’re supposed to leave, everything kept getting pushed back. We’re just wondering what’s going on?” — Anonymous player on Nigeria’s roster This wouldn’t exactly take a master’s class in logistics to figure out. The Nigerians’ first game at the Olympics was on July 25, a Sunday, against the Australians, one of the best, deepest international teams. There is a massive time difference between Tokyo and the American West Coast (17 hours), and, of course, it (should) take a half day to fly from Point A to Point B. To be able to properly adjust to the time change and their Olympic surroundings, the Nigerians should have left San Francisco on July 19 and arrived in Tokyo on the 20th. The players, to their chagrin, even believed that was the plan. Until the 19th came and went. Plane tickets weren’t even purchased until July 20, according to a staff member. The team left the 21st, and upon arriving in Frankfurt suffered a nine-hour layover before taking a 12-hour flight to Tokyo. By the time the Nigerians finally arrived in Tokyo, it was July 23. They were exhausted, hungry? and rushed, in more ways than they could even realize. The Olympic Opening Ceremony was to begin a couple of hours after they arrived in the country. “My thing was the food,” one player told me. “No one wanted to go to the ceremony because we were so hungry. We landed and everybody is thinking about the ceremony. I’m like, ‘No, I gotta get food first.’” Every team member I spoke to believed the screwy flight reservations had something to do with cost. Since officials did not respond to inquiries for this story, it is impossible to know for certain what their reasoning was, and anyone who’s ever booked a flight before knows it’s more expensive to buy the tickets the closer one gets to departure. So how much the Nigerian government saved by waiting so late to purchase the tickets and send the team through Frankfurt would be difficult to calculate. “If it’s cheaper for you to fly 30 hours, and you’re paying for someone else’s flight instead of your own, would you do it?” one player asked me, rhetorically. Messages left with the Nigerian Olympic Committee and the Nigerian Basketball Federation — the two entities that would (or should) work together to avoid these problems — were not returned. The women’s team, by the way, finished 0-3 and 11th in their Olympic tournament. Perhaps it is a telling distinction of where soccer and basketball rank in the country, that their basketball teams lack the most basic forms of support while the soccer team that participated in this year’s Africa Cup of Nations was promised additional prize money for winning the tournament and even for individual goals scored. But no team deserved the treatment that the Nigeria men’s basketball team alleges to us they received. There is some unfortunate precedence here, as far as bad travel planning and a lack of funding. In the summer of 2019, Team Nigeria almost didn’t make it to China for the FIBA World Cup, because the money for the flights allegedly wasn’t released until the last possible moment. One of the players ended up staying in Tokyo longer than the rest of his teammates when the Olympics were over, because he only had a Nigerian passport with him. He claims no one told him he needed his Nigerian and American passports. The Nigerian basketball team runs the risk of being banned from the 2023 FIBA World Cup — an important tournament to qualify for the 2024 Olympics — because its governing body hasn’t followed simple rules, such as holding an election to seat board members. Heck, the entire team wasn’t even on the same commercial flight from San Francisco to Frankfurt last summer. No one bothered to tell the men who were taking the alternate plane. “They were like, ‘There is no reservation for (you) here,’” one player told me. “And I’m like, ‘What are you talking about? I guess I am not going to Tokyo.’ And they’re like, ‘No, apparently your reservation is with United.’ And I’m like, ‘OK, I’ll see you guys when I see you guys. I have an hour to get to my flight. I gotta get moving.’” While in Tokyo, the Olympic Committee was blamed for some Nigerian track athletes being disqualified from the Games for failing to take the appropriate number of drug tests prior to the games — another apparent logistical mistake. That didn’t quite happen to the Nigerian basketball team, but its pain had only just begun. “This is pretty serious. We are going into the first game of the Olympics, and our coach is not around? Like, that’s crazy.” — Anonymous player on Nigeria’s roster As the Team Nigeria buses rolled toward the Olympic Village, Brown had some bad news for his team captains. There were no credentials for most of the coaches and support staff. They could not get into the village. They could not get into the games. Brown was going to stay with those people until the problem was resolved. For the night of the 23rd, a Friday, it meant the players were going to have to dig through equipment bags to find their matching outfits to wear to the Olympic Ceremony — for which they were already 45 minutes late by the time Team Nigeria reached the village. This, by comparison, was a minor issue, though none of the clothes the players were fitted for made it to Tokyo. Everything was the same size, for every player. The much larger issue was that the two practices scheduled for Saturday would have to be run by the players. “We are talking about practicing without a coach before the first game of the Olympics; there is no time to think about why the massage therapist isn’t there, or that the trainer isn’t around,” one player told me. “I am calling the equipment guy, trying to figure out where our jerseys are, and our shoes are, and make sure everyone has their uniforms.” Brown did not join the team until the second half of the second practice, on the evening of July 24. He’d spent Friday night and most of Saturday doing what he could to get as many of his staff credentials for the Olympics but wasn’t having much luck. Fernandez, Sancho and Alonzo were credentialed within hours before the opening tip against Australia. The three were given one room inside the village with two beds, which meant one was sleeping on the training table. The rest of the staff never made it to the Olympics, even though they were in Tokyo. “You are talking about people who worked for two straight months, worked their asses off, and they were not even rewarded with going to a game,” one of the staff members explained, visibly frustrated. “No walking into the Olympic Village, nothing. “So the whole Olympic experience for them was a lot of work for nothing.” The players, well, they almost didn’t get to play against Australia because they nearly missed their COVID tests the day before the game. In the helter-skelter of players running practices, Brown trying to rescue most of his staff from Olympic purgatory and the Nigerian support staff, who did have credentials apparently, not being up to speed on the rules, none had thought to procure the daily tests the Nigerians would need to take nor find where to drop the samples before it was almost too late. “We didn’t even know we needed to be tested,” a player said, his hands raised in the air. “It was constantly something that would come up, one distraction after another.” Somehow, the Nigerians trailed Australia by just three points at halftime of the Olympic opener. Reality finally took root, and they lost by 17 points. There was no recovering. A few days later, the Germans beat them by seven, then the Italians defeated them by nine. The Olympics were over for the Nigerians nearly as quickly as the Games started. No medal. So it goes. “At some point, you either make excuses, or you try to make a change, and with such a quick turnaround, there was no time for either,” one player said. “Who’s going to forget this, who’s not going to turn in that? Who’s not going to show up today? Is our bus time actually the right time? “It never stopped, and it was too much. I was never comfortable.” “I’m still an Olympian; I’ll forever be an Olympian. It’s just frustrating the way it went down because of what it could have been.” — Anonymous player on Nigeria’s roster After the Nigerians were swept out of Tokyo and there was nothing left to do but pack and head home, Metu, of the Sacramento Kings, took time during his postgame remarks following the loss to Italy to bring attention to some of what had happened. “For a lot of athletes that represent Nigeria, our country, we’re ready to risk it all and put it on the line, but our government and the Olympic Committee of Nigeria, they make it extremely difficult to go out there and just focus on performing in our sport,” Metu said, unafraid to hide his feelings. “It was a lack of attention to detail and lack of empathy for the hard work that’s put in by us athletes by the Nigerian Olympic Committee, as well as the government. “I commend coach Mike Brown; he’s put a lot on the line for us.” And that’s it. That’s the end of the Nigerian basketball team’s troubling trip to Tokyo. Almost. When it was time for the Nigerian team to go home from Tokyo, many of the players ended up buying their own plane tickets back to the U.S. Why? Because the Nigerian Olympic Committee’s booking for the team to get back to America included a connecting flight in, you guessed it, Frankfurt. They were to fly the wrong way, again.
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Lockback posted:Turns out Drafting is still probably pretty hard. Oh sure let's give everyone a pass on Killian Hayes but if Vlade makes one mistake then let's never shut up about how bad it is
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