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TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Hed posted:

That's awesome. I have enjoyed what I've been doing (I'll write it up) but how do you trigger the #waitingFor stuff? Just links to plug-ins or HOWTOs would be fine.

My favorite thing is pulling in PDFs and marking them up, it's so much easier than it was in OneNote to take dense reports I was emailed and reference sections now with the PDF deep links.

Really need to hear about the PDFs/etc as I'm currently doing nothing like that. I have an iPad Pro with a Pencil that I'm not using now that I moved over to Obsidian, prior was doing everything on apps that were 100% handwritten.

For the #waitingFor/#discussWith, I have my 1:1s organized like so:
code:
Notes
-- Employee
   -- Employee Name
     -- Note for individual 1:1 session
The Employee Name matches perfectly to the note in the /p/ folder that is associated with the employee. In the template for the 1:1, I have the following code:

code:
## Discuss With
```dataview
task
FROM #discussWith  
where contains(text, reverse(split(this.file.folder, "/"))[0]) AND !completed AND contains(text, "#discussWith")
```
It references the name of the folder that the note is in and pulls that in to search the tasks that includes the employees name. Does that make sense?

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Hughlander
May 11, 2005

TraderStav posted:

Really need to hear about the PDFs/etc as I'm currently doing nothing like that. I have an iPad Pro with a Pencil that I'm not using now that I moved over to Obsidian, prior was doing everything on apps that were 100% handwritten.

For the #waitingFor/#discussWith, I have my 1:1s organized like so:
code:
Notes
-- Employee
   -- Employee Name
     -- Note for individual 1:1 session
The Employee Name matches perfectly to the note in the /p/ folder that is associated with the employee. In the template for the 1:1, I have the following code:

code:
## Discuss With
```dataview
task
FROM #discussWith  
where contains(text, reverse(split(this.file.folder, "/"))[0]) AND !completed AND contains(text, "#discussWith")
```
It references the name of the folder that the note is in and pulls that in to search the tasks that includes the employees name. Does that make sense?

file.folder is a good call out I should play with it.

The one I do a lot is a note per 1:1

The general format of the 1:1 is:
# Previous tasks
```tasks
done
tags include #PERSON
```

# @today
- Note
- Note
- Note

```tasks
not done
tags include #PERSON
```

@today get's expanded to [[2023-11-17-Friday]] which is the name of my Daily note. Then in the daily note I have a section for meetings that would look like:
- [[PERSON 1-1]] ![[PERSON 1-1#2023-11-17-Friday]]

So it'll link to the 1:1 note, but also bring in the text of that day's meeting. By using a tag per person I can also in any meeting just do a:
- [ ] #PERSON remember to talk about this

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
Thanks TraderStav. That makes sense. I really haven't messed around with dataview--I thought I had but I did use the ```query syntax to look for todos back when I was messing around.

For PDFs I get that have material for a meeting I like to drop them in a topical /media folder, then I can reference them with like **Main Article:** [[meeting_topic_v2.pdf]] and then split screen in Obsidian (snowman icon -> Split right). Then I outline in my markdown pane, I can cite entire pages with links, or sometimes I'll embed key chart pages with ![[meeting_topic_v2.pdf#page=69]] or you can highlight some content in the PDF reader pane and "Copy link to selection" then you get a deep link into the PDF like [[meeting_topic_v2.pdf#page=5&selection=85,0,86,1|My Meeting Slide Title, page 5]] that embeds well with whatever you're doing and takes you to exactly what you highlighted.

This workflow has replaced me scrawling stuff on printed PDFs in OneNote on my iPad Pro with pencil and never being able to find it again. It looks like in the roadmap they'll add full-on support for embedded annotations as soon as PDF.js rolls it in.

haruspicy
Feb 10, 2023

TraderStav posted:

The Employee Name matches perfectly to the note in the /p/ folder that is associated with the employee. In the template for the 1:1, I have the following code:

It references the name of the folder that the note is in and pulls that in to search the tasks that includes the employees name. Does that make sense?

What do you mean by the /p/ folder? I'm having a hard time visualizing the full structure...

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Sounds like a folder named p that has first_last.md[eez nut]’s for every person they regularly interact with that has the query in it

code:
.
..
junk/
notes/
p/
    mom.md
    dad.md
    dog.md
    lowtax.md

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

haruspicy posted:

What do you mean by the /p/ folder? I'm having a hard time visualizing the full structure...


Phone posted:

Sounds like a folder named p that has first_last.md[eez nut]’s for every person they regularly interact with that has the query in it

code:
.
..
junk/
notes/
p/
    mom.md
    dad.md
    dog.md
    lowtax.md

Yes, exactly this. It's just a folder to throw notes that are specific to a person. I have subfolders in there to further organize them, but you got the idea. Sorry I skimmed over that.

afroserty
Apr 22, 2010
I'm fairly new to Obsidian and I am hoping someone can clarify for me how exactly the Properties feature is different from the front matter in regard to tags and other properties. Are they identical/different syntax wise when it come to the Dataview plug in?

I am trying to set up some templates but would like to know if there is a different/ better use case for this as they seem to be exclusive? They seem like they are just the same thing with a different look but I noticed when tags are just in a note Dataview does not pick them up but when they are in the Properties section they are returned which seems backwards. With everything else seeming quite well thought this seemed odd to me, unless it could be a plug in error?

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Got a question that's hopefully not too far off-topic...

I already have my own homebrew tool for managing notes, but I would like to improve my management of books, papers, and other documents I get from other sources. Basically I'm sick of either bookmarking something on archive.org only for it to disappear a month later, or yeeting some shittily-named PDF into an ad-hoc directory structure never to be found again. Some sort of database which indexes titles and other metadata, organizes the actual files on disk, and makes it easy for me to browse & search the documents I've got. I've looked at paperless-ngx but it seems more focused on importing your receipts and such rather than working with large documents created by others. Maybe Zotero?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

WARNING: I MAY HAVE A MELTDOWN IF I READ THE WORD DUDE

Pham Nuwen posted:

Got a question that's hopefully not too far off-topic...

I already have my own homebrew tool for managing notes, but I would like to improve my management of books, papers, and other documents I get from other sources. Basically I'm sick of either bookmarking something on archive.org only for it to disappear a month later, or yeeting some shittily-named PDF into an ad-hoc directory structure never to be found again. Some sort of database which indexes titles and other metadata, organizes the actual files on disk, and makes it easy for me to browse & search the documents I've got. I've looked at paperless-ngx but it seems more focused on importing your receipts and such rather than working with large documents created by others. Maybe Zotero?

Zotero can do this, yes.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

afroserty posted:

I'm fairly new to Obsidian and I am hoping someone can clarify for me how exactly the Properties feature is different from the front matter in regard to tags and other properties. Are they identical/different syntax wise when it come to the Dataview plug in?

I am trying to set up some templates but would like to know if there is a different/ better use case for this as they seem to be exclusive? They seem like they are just the same thing with a different look but I noticed when tags are just in a note Dataview does not pick them up but when they are in the Properties section they are returned which seems backwards. With everything else seeming quite well thought this seemed odd to me, unless it could be a plug in error?

Properties is just a different view into the front matter and you can toggle it on/off.

Are you using 'tag' or 'tags' in the property? In Dataview?

I think what you're seeing is talked about here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ObsidianMD/comments/16e58pv/dataview_stopped_fetching_tags_queries_after_the/ and here:
https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview/issues/2064

I rarely frontmatter tag things but usually just tag in text so hadn't noticed an issue.

afroserty
Apr 22, 2010

Hughlander posted:

Properties is just a different view into the front matter and you can toggle it on/off.

Are you using 'tag' or 'tags' in the property? In Dataview?

I think what you're seeing is talked about here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ObsidianMD/comments/16e58pv/dataview_stopped_fetching_tags_queries_after_the/ and here:
https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview/issues/2064

I rarely frontmatter tag things but usually just tag in text so hadn't noticed an issue.

I was hoping that was the case and thought I was just missing something obvious, thank you for clearing that up for me. Cheers, that makes sense that it is just a quirk or me just not using the right syntax. Overthinking it :dumb:

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"
the fine folks at linuxserver.io have put out a docker image for self-hosted obsidian, really handy as it's just obsidian running via remote desktop on the server so you can have an obsidian "web ui" available from anywhere

it takes some set up but very needs suiting for me as i can't install obsidian at work

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Mad Wack posted:

the fine folks at linuxserver.io have put out a docker image for self-hosted obsidian, really handy as it's just obsidian running via remote desktop on the server so you can have an obsidian "web ui" available from anywhere

it takes some set up but very needs suiting for me as i can't install obsidian at work

So the advantage of this is that it's a web based obsidian that you can access from anywhere rather than an app that syncs? If all of the plugins and everything else works the same as the app this may be a great solution for those of us that can't install and/or sync obsidian with our work machines.

Guessing the best approach is to reverse proxy so that it can be externally facing, does it have a login?

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

TraderStav posted:

So the advantage of this is that it's a web based obsidian that you can access from anywhere rather than an app that syncs? If all of the plugins and everything else works the same as the app this may be a great solution for those of us that can't install and/or sync obsidian with our work machines.

Guessing the best approach is to reverse proxy so that it can be externally facing, does it have a login?

I had rolled my own for two reasons:
1) To have an always on pdf scanner / OCR that would sync the results back to my mobile phone. Running that plugin on mobile was a bit flakey.
2) For the case where I wanted to look something up with a full screen and keyboard and was on a machine that I didn't control.

By default I set everything up through traefik that requires a plex login if it's not coming from my local network.

Just reading the README.md for the repo though: https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-obsidian
CUSTOM_USER HTTP Basic auth username, abc is default.
PASSWORD HTTP Basic auth password, abc is default. If unset there will be no auth

Looks like they do HTTP Basic auth.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


TraderStav posted:



Guessing the best approach is to reverse proxy so that it can be externally facing, does it have a login?

use wireguard or tailscale

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

The Fool posted:

use wireguard or tailscale

If you can’t install obsidian on a device what makes you think you are installing tailscale or wire guard?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


because I don't know how to read

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

TraderStav posted:

So the advantage of this is that it's a web based obsidian that you can access from anywhere rather than an app that syncs? If all of the plugins and everything else works the same as the app this may be a great solution for those of us that can't install and/or sync obsidian with our work machines.

Guessing the best approach is to reverse proxy so that it can be externally facing, does it have a login?

it still syncs and maintains flat files, just on your server and it supports all of the same functionality - i personally use syncthing to move everything around and i can confirm it provides near realtime (~1 min max) sync for obsidian to any of my apps

it comes with basic HTTP auth support but I stuck it behind SWAG, which is also made by the linuxserver team, I use it for Authelia SSO to my externally facing stuff. you could probably use something like traefik which is what's hot these days for reverse proxy stuff

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

The Fool posted:

use wireguard or tailscale

Hughlander posted:

If you can’t install obsidian on a device what makes you think you are installing tailscale or wire guard?

The Fool posted:

because I don't know how to read

You can install them on another device, and add that subnet (or just a /32 IP if you want) to an access list. Tailscale will then allow you to access that subnet/IP, even though there is no agent directly on the device.

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
I've been an obsidian user for 2-3 years now using their sync service and have really liked using it, but I'm trying out notion to see if I wanna switch, mainly because I'm getting tired of janitoring my plugins from device to device. (AidenLX Folder Notes stopped working recently and it's what got me thinking.)

I prefer obsidian's paradigm, for lack of a better word - flat md files, plugins, not a loving web app, etc. But I like the project management features notion has out of the box, and that since it's on the web sync will always work and the experience will be the same from device to device without me having to wrangle plugins over and over. I never really got into the whole second brain thing and used it more as a personal wiki with to-do lists, kanban boards, and other projects, all organized in a folder hierarchy rather than a heavily linked one.

I like that notion just sorta supports all that, but I really don't like having personal poo poo like this in a freemium app on a website that sooner or later is gonna get breached. I'm gonna keep both running for a week and make a call, I guess, and maybe do a deep dive into onsidian's plugins again to see if I can clean things up.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Well Played Mauer posted:

I've been an obsidian user for 2-3 years now using their sync service and have really liked using it, but I'm trying out notion to see if I wanna switch, mainly because I'm getting tired of janitoring my plugins from device to device. (AidenLX Folder Notes stopped working recently and it's what got me thinking.)

I prefer obsidian's paradigm, for lack of a better word - flat md files, plugins, not a loving web app, etc. But I like the project management features notion has out of the box, and that since it's on the web sync will always work and the experience will be the same from device to device without me having to wrangle plugins over and over. I never really got into the whole second brain thing and used it more as a personal wiki with to-do lists, kanban boards, and other projects, all organized in a folder hierarchy rather than a heavily linked one.

Yeah, the obsidian plugin ecosystem is kinda annoying, in that it's full of junk that people post to the community plugins with no real commitment to maintain. And obsidian isn't exactly helping things either, since they apparently think a moving target API that they don't plan to maintain is just fine.


That said, two obsidian plugins that are extremely solid are obsidian-kanban and dataview.

I use obsidian in a similar way as you -- folders for org, sparing use of links, totally ignore the graph. I don't do kanban, but dataview is amazingly powerful for pulling together chunks of notes and making things like combined to-do views and such. Only problem is you have to learn some quasi-SQL to use it. Or at least have a library of sample code you copy-pasted from online.

So for example, this will pull all the tasks (checkboxes), that are under a header with the tag #ToDo, are incomplete, in files that are in the same folder or subfolders thereof, into a big grouped list that's sorted by most recent modification and is limited to 20 total.
code:
```dataview
TASK
FROM #ToDo
WHERE !completed
WHERE contains(file.folder, this.file.folder)
SORT rows.file.mtime DESC
LIMIT 20
GROUP BY file.link
```
It can also do javascript for even more programmatic poo poo, if you want to make charts or whatever.


Well Played Mauer posted:

I like that notion just sorta supports all that, but I really don't like having personal poo poo like this in a freemium app on a website that sooner or later is gonna get breached.

That would apply equally to obsidian sync as notion, right?

In that case what you'd really want would be to keep your obsidian docs yourself on a NAS or always-on PC, and set up VPN to your home for remote access.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about pulling back on some of the plugins that I am using to get things simpler. The dataview seems like a must-have though as it for project management/task management it’s essential to put in front of you what needs to be done in the various spots.

Obsidian is an amazing piece of software, but requires finding that delicate balance of not overbuilding it where it becomes a problem to use but also enabling your life. I think I went too far trying to make it a second brain, too quickly, and am overwhelmed myself now.

Also, don’t hesitate to declare bankruptcy on the tasks that you keep kicking out every week, but that’s platform-agnostic. :)

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
Yeah, dataview rules. I have little home folder pages for big groups of work and use dataview to pull sub pages based on when they were last updated, pull links to active projects I have running, etc. It looks a little like:

code:
``` dataview
TABLE
summary as "Summary",
progress as "Progress"
FROM "Spaces/Personal/Personal Projects/Self Hosting" and #project/active
WHERE progress != "100%"
SORT progress DESC
```
Obsidian sync claims to encrypt the data it's passing around at least, but I'm thinking about sticking my vault on my NAS and calling it a day. The hurdle there is, at least the last time I checked, the iOS app won't connect to a NAS to sync, which makes using it on mobile kinda a non-starter. Maybe that's changed, though.

I really am waffling on switching. I've liked my setup up until this point, but doing the plugin dance is getting a little trying. I think TraderStav is onto something with reducing the plugin usage to streamline a bit more.

All that said, I went to the Obsidian site and it looks like sync will sync community plugins and settings out of the box now, which is awesome. They also have a $5/mo sync option that fits my needs, so that's pretty cool.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
I just switched to Obsidian Sync yesterday and so far, so good. Had to download an icon pack but that was about it. I like being able to exclude folders on my work machine from syncing, nice feature. I was using iCloud before and it was problematic with how iCloud behaves (supposedly addressed in iOS18) but needed functionality off of Apple machines so dropped the $10/mo for the sync.

Seems good!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Well Played Mauer posted:

Obsidian sync claims to encrypt the data it's passing around at least,

Oh, just looked at the site and apparently you can have a separate encryption password from your account password.

If they've built that correctly it should be secure even if their site gets completely compromised -- the account password only gains access to your encrypted files, and the decryption is strictly local to your machine. (If.)


I've never looked at their sync, or the NAS/VPN thing, since I'm exclusively using Obsidian for at-the-PC stuff.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

One thing you can always do is just not upgrade.

I don't really update any plugins anymore, the last major time I did I found out that obsidian-memos became closed source, subscription or some-poo poo and completely useless. So I just went to the github release history and downloaded the last v1 of it and installed it into the plugin folder.

That said, I'd also throw templater on the list of absolutely critical plugins. I'm using a 2 year old beta of Peridoic Notes that lets you have multiple sets of periodic notes for different purposes, like I have my daily note set for my life/work, and then a weekly note set for a side project. Just yesterday I wrote into the template for the weekly note to pin the filename to Sunday regardless of when I first open the note and it was p-cool.

For sync I'm using Obsidian Sync now but wish I wasn't. The best experience in sync was iCloud sync because the API would basically let you stall launching the app while the sync happened so you knew it was up to date. Unfortunately iCloud sync on Win11 blows chunks. I also backup the vault with the git plugin and have that push to a repository on every commit. If you want cloud access, I use the docker image ghcr.io/sytone/obsidian-remote behind a reverse proxy to access my vault anywhere.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Hughlander posted:

One thing you can always do is just not upgrade.

I don't really update any plugins anymore, the last major time I did I found out that obsidian-memos became closed source, subscription or some-poo poo and completely useless. So I just went to the github release history and downloaded the last v1 of it and installed it into the plugin folder.

The usual problem is the opposite, Obsidian updates and your favorite plugin now doesn't work because it's not being maintained.


And not updating Obsidian itself is not a great idea -- apps with inherent networking ability should get updates. Electron apps especially so, it's a big target. I'm perfectly happy to use a local-only program that hasn't been updated in a decade, but if it loads the internet I'm not down with that.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Klyith posted:

The usual problem is the opposite, Obsidian updates and your favorite plugin now doesn't work because it's not being maintained.


And not updating Obsidian itself is not a great idea -- apps with inherent networking ability should get updates. Electron apps especially so, it's a big target. I'm perfectly happy to use a local-only program that hasn't been updated in a decade, but if it loads the internet I'm not down with that.

Yah I don't think I've seen that with a plugin yet. I suspect that Periodic Notes Beta is going to be a big possibility there.

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
Well, the good news is my folder notes plugin dilemma is solved because I found a folder notes plugin that's been updated in the past year, and it has more options/features anyway. I also did a minor cleanup on plugins. At this point I'm trying to re-familiarize myself with the program, since I haven't really looked at its options or settings since I first went really deep on building out an ecosystem that worked for me.

The fact I can sync plugins and settings by default now is pretty huge. It was always super annoying when setting up a new device to forget one plugin and have it bork the experience as a result.

I still need to do a deep dive of Notion, but I'm not in love with the sidebar and interface so far, but some of the templates really look slick.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Well Played Mauer posted:

Well, the good news is my folder notes plugin dilemma is solved because I found a folder notes plugin that's been updated in the past year, and it has more options/features anyway. I also did a minor cleanup on plugins. At this point I'm trying to re-familiarize myself with the program, since I haven't really looked at its options or settings since I first went really deep on building out an ecosystem that worked for me.

The fact I can sync plugins and settings by default now is pretty huge. It was always super annoying when setting up a new device to forget one plugin and have it bork the experience as a result.

I still need to do a deep dive of Notion, but I'm not in love with the sidebar and interface so far, but some of the templates really look slick.

I tried notion and it was more of a PITA than I liked. Also you don't own your notes, so that's a huge non-starter. Getting trapped in an eco system is something I'm actively working to not do in 2024.

Escape Goat
Jan 30, 2009

Switched from OneNote to Obsidian + Sync and I love it. OneNote just straight up broke on my Macbook, which was the final straw after lots of annoyances with it. This is my second Great Notes Transition since Evernote replaced their native apps.

One thing I noticed: searching includes characters inside of Base64-encoded images, which seems like both a glaringly obvious flaw and a straightforward one to fix.

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
Yeah, that was a big impetus to get into Obsidian back when I did. I doubt Notion is going anywhere but it's one smooth-brained MBA decision to kill the free tier or sell everything to an LLM system.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Day 2 of using Obsidian Sync, and curious to hear if someone else has experienced this.

Machine 1: Mint Linux on home network
Machine 2: Work machine on VPN (at home)

I was typing some notes on Machine 2 and had Machine 1 Obsidian open also. I'd pause and the notes I just typed disappeared and some percentage of the time, they'd return, either complete or incomplete. Check the sync logs it looks like information was pushed from the server from Machine 1 (which didn't contain those notes, since they weren't typed there).

I closed the Obsidian session on Machine 1, and the problem went away. I originally thought the issue was that I had my Vault stored in my work OneDrive documents folder (just incidental, not planning to use it for syncing, so thought it'd be harmless) and that it was causing a complication. I moved that vault to another location outside of a cloud service and it persisted.

I fear that I'll leave Obsidian open on my home machine and go off to work and have my Vault be acting up stupidly. I never experienced this using iCloud, but then again, wasn't syncing with any non apple devices either.

Going to evaluate the github option for keeping things in sync, see if that improves anything. Need to make sure my work doesn't block that connection either.

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!
Weird, I've never seen anything like that in 2ish years of using their sync. I did have issues when using iCloud to sync (between macOS and iOS), though.

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
I've had some issues like that, but it's usually because something I write on one device (usually an iOS one) doesn't make its way over. It's pretty rare, but it did happen just a few days ago.


I think it has something to do with the device sleeping while I have a file open to be edited, but I've also seen it happen on a spare laptop. Sometimes closing and re-opening the program on the offending device is enough to get it to change over, but it can be very annoying, especially if I'm mid-project on something and my most recent notes don't make it over.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

TraderStav posted:

Day 2 of using Obsidian Sync, and curious to hear if someone else has experienced this.

Machine 1: Mint Linux on home network
Machine 2: Work machine on VPN (at home)

I was typing some notes on Machine 2 and had Machine 1 Obsidian open also. I'd pause and the notes I just typed disappeared and some percentage of the time, they'd return, either complete or incomplete. Check the sync logs it looks like information was pushed from the server from Machine 1 (which didn't contain those notes, since they weren't typed there).

I closed the Obsidian session on Machine 1, and the problem went away. I originally thought the issue was that I had my Vault stored in my work OneDrive documents folder (just incidental, not planning to use it for syncing, so thought it'd be harmless) and that it was causing a complication. I moved that vault to another location outside of a cloud service and it persisted.

I fear that I'll leave Obsidian open on my home machine and go off to work and have my Vault be acting up stupidly. I never experienced this using iCloud, but then again, wasn't syncing with any non apple devices either.

Going to evaluate the github option for keeping things in sync, see if that improves anything. Need to make sure my work doesn't block that connection either.

It is super not recommended to have the vault in something that syncs as well. Not saying that's the issue here, but Vault + OneDrive is a really bad idea. I know you moved past it and still saw things but that's just a general warning.

I occasionally have seen issues with a daily note where I'd make the note on one device and it'd sync, then I'd open the other device and it'd remake the note and then get confused as to which is the master and overwrite the other. Just turning off 'open daily note when obsidian launches' fixed that for me.

I'm not sure git for sync is a great idea I only use it for backup. There's times where the tree isn't clean and I've had to manually do a git add . && git commit -m '' to continue.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Hughlander posted:

It is super not recommended to have the vault in something that syncs as well. Not saying that's the issue here, but Vault + OneDrive is a really bad idea. I know you moved past it and still saw things but that's just a general warning.

I occasionally have seen issues with a daily note where I'd make the note on one device and it'd sync, then I'd open the other device and it'd remake the note and then get confused as to which is the master and overwrite the other. Just turning off 'open daily note when obsidian launches' fixed that for me.

I'm not sure git for sync is a great idea I only use it for backup. There's times where the tree isn't clean and I've had to manually do a git add . && git commit -m '' to continue.

Thanks, great feedback and things to note!

- This issue happened on other notes than daily note
- Good point about git, I moved on past that as I realized that for me to get it to work on my iOS devices I'm going to have to jump through hoops (use working copy/etc) and looking for straightforward approaches

I'll just plow forward and see if relaunching addresses this.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

TraderStav posted:

Thanks, great feedback and things to note!

- This issue happened on other notes than daily note
- Good point about git, I moved on past that as I realized that for me to get it to work on my iOS devices I'm going to have to jump through hoops (use working copy/etc) and looking for straightforward approaches

I'll just plow forward and see if relaunching addresses this.

Oh one good thing about git also is just the complete historical record of the vault. I had something in a note that I copy and pasted to safari once, and apparently did something that was either a cut or overwrote it with something else, and didn't notice for 6-7 months. Was able to just do a git log -p --follow -- Note.md to get it back.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

TraderStav posted:

- Good point about git, I moved on past that as I realized that for me to get it to work on my iOS devices I'm going to have to jump through hoops (use working copy/etc) and looking for straightforward approaches

I'm an idiot, just needed to update the shortcuts to point to on my device and all my shortcuts worked.

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Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
So after a week of using Notion like I normally do Obsidian on the day-to-day (and fixing some lingering plugin/sync problems that have been resolved since I last did a good janitorial session), I'm probably going to stay with Obsidian.

I have one more test to do for project-oriented work. I wanna plan out/design a one-shot tabletop game. It's a city-wide hexcrawl inspired by The Warriors, if you care. I wanna see if its PM tools have enough benefits to outweigh the clunky UX for my day to day work/note taking.

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